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a bunch of retarded people dying


Not done with the episode yet, but seriously, when the ethanol started pouring through the bullet holes, they couldn't have filled up that jug with it??

First they couldn't open the valve, now it was effectively done for them, but no, they are still dying there.

I mean, the three people outside could have just literally drunk from the truck.

Besides, antifreeze from what I understand has a distinctly sweet taste to it - none of them noticed it when drinking from the bottles??

Plus they were in a building with running water!

Freaking morons.

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Totally agree. I was yelling at the television too. So, so, so stupid.
Plus, the distance from Austin, Texas (where most of the story takes place) to the Mississippi border is over 500 miles, yet they continuously drive back and forth, wasting extremely precious fuel. Plus, Morgan was able to go that distance, mostly on foot, with an injured leg before the rest succumbed to their poisoning?

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Yeah, I am definitely not going to be back for season 5. The writing has become downright cringeworthy.

I regret sticking with the show for as long as I did. I can't think of a single redeeming thing about this season.


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I'm also done with this, I finished this season but i cant do it anymore.

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You are 100% right. But I like this season more then all the others.

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/a bunch of retarded people dying/

that would have been a better title for this POS.

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1. I was puzzled why they were using their bottled water to make coffee when they had tap water available.
2. Unless the tanker was near bone dry it would have taken a while to drain completely with only a few holes in it.
3. Why didn't the "nurse" know that drinking an alcoholic beverage would cure them? It only occurred to her after Mo-Mo brings it up. SMH
4. The gas station apparently had no back door for them to use thus the slo-mo schlock exit through the barricade of zombies.

Speaking of Morgan, if you watched the Talking Dead after the show you can clearly see Lennie James hates that his character has been reduced to a simplistic dumbass nickname. And on a personal note, this is the first episode in the entire series when I sat down to watch I couldn't answer one little question: Why am I even bothering to watch anymore? I had no answer. So, like many of you, I think S4 will be my last. It was fun to pick it apart but even that has slipped into the mundane. It's like a TV show made by people that have never seen a TV show before. And to think the premise of the show was to document the start of a global apocalypse and we instead get a family even more cartoonish than The Simpsons.

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Furthermore, when June said they should keep hydrated, but discovered all the seals on the bottles were broken (something no one has noticed when making the coffee, I guess, and besides there were more bottles still sealed in plastic underneath the ones on top, I think, but whatever), why couldn't they keep hydrated by drinking tap water?

And as for the tanker: when they first showed the bullet holes, I thought the characters would think "great, now we can finally fill up". Instead they just went inside to die. [facepalm] Didn't even try to drink the pouring liquid.

Just so idiotic on so many levels - I am really offended that the writers think this little of the audience. Or perhaps the writers are really just this level of bad, but in that case I am offended that the producers stand by the show's current quality.

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While I agree with you guys 99%, to be fair, they didn't know what they had been poisoned with until Morgan got in walkie range and was able to tell them. At that point, June knew what the proper antidote would be.

That said, I was blown away by how stupid everything else was, especially the giving up on the truck because of a couple of bullet holes, which in all actuality have now given you access to what you needed lol. Ridiculous. Strand and Luci just stared at it pouring out of the truck, as if they didn't have the strength to get up and put the can under it. Yet, in the next scene, we see that they apparently had the strength to get back up and come in to die with the rest of the group.

And like you, ex, I would have thought that enough anti-freeze to poison someone would be detectable. I could be wrong on this. Not a medical professional.

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It was as if they were just determined to die no matter how many circumstances were actually in their favor. In a freaking apocalypse.



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I love how you're basically describing pandas.
"The Walking Pandas".

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Do pandas march to their death? I thought it was lemmings.



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It's not about marching to their deaths, it's about having everything they need to survive but just ignoring it and choosing to lie on the ground, waiting to die.

Yes, I have a very low opinion of pandas. And FTWD "survivors".

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I just figured that once June heard what they were poisoned with she should have also known that drinking alcohol would help at that point. Hell, I even knew that from watching House! Now that was a show (at least the first four seasons).

What would be great is the entirety of S5 would be Daniel's story of what he's been doing the past year. Now that the Scooby Doo gang is riding around saving humanity one warm beer at a time we can learn what Daniel has been up to. Maybe some flashbacks with Mercedes Mason involved. But to write Daniel properly you have to start with a writing staff that has some actual life experience and not the crew that wrote flying zombies as a real thing.

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I thought that was how it happened. He told June what had poisoned them, and upon hearing anti-freeze, she knew what the antidote would be.

I loved House too.

"Now that the Scooby Doo gang is riding around saving humanity one warm beer at a time..." lol We've been laughing at how silly the "over-the-topness" of the whole beer situation has been. Yeah, I read where someone from the show said that Daniel is still definitely alive, so we'll see. I always thought his character was one of the best in the early stages of the show. Maybe they won't bring him back just to ruin it.

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antifreeze would make them intoxicated similar to alcohol. It only takes about a shot glass full for a lethal dose. The kid would already be dead, it would take everyone else up to 3 days to die.

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Ah, I see. So, assuming they each drank a bottle or two at the most, wouldn't a shot glass full be noticeable? Or, are they wanting us to think that the scent/taste would be masked under the coffee? In which case, was Charlie drinking coffee? Most kids don't. Or, did she just drink water and was too stupid to wonder why it was sweet? Now that I can believe!

Edit: thewaitress just remembered and reminded me that the trucker said she needed to tell her brother to lay off of the sweetener. So, the show at least took it into account. Still begs the question - why use bottled water for the coffee, when there was running water? Maybe they felt they couldn't trust it enough to drink, but they trusted water bottles with broken seals while a crazy bitch has been after them.

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Also I think it would have been rather strange for a large group of people who haven't even seen water in a couple of days to just dart for the coffee. They must have drunk straight from the bottles - so once again I repeat my question, did no one notice the water was sweet and that the seals were broken?

I don't know, I think the stupidity is not worth all the analysis we've given it here.



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You're definitely right about that. Except, the discussion on all of the stupid elements is one of the few things I still enjoy about this universe. Sad, when it all started so strong.

Even if they didn't drink water (for whatever reason) and went straight to coffee - no one drinks it black? The odds are someone would, and wonder what was up.

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Most people would probably notice that much in one bottle. She may have spiked the coffee maker, too. If dude already had water in there when they left, he might not have thought too much about it when they got back.

We know roughly how much she had to work with. However much would fit in the SWAT vehicle.

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As for the actors' discontent: honestly I just couldn't bring myself to watch Talking Dead after such an embarrassment of an episode, but I knew when Frank Dillane left that it was because he didn't want to be a part of this sh*tshow anymore. I think Kim Dickens was just more reserved about it.

Lenny James's position is more precarious because he only became a recurring character because of the fans, and nobody knows him outside of this show.



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They would have done better to just cut everything related to the truck. They still lay there dying and Morgan still saves them.

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yeah the whole goal to get outside to the truck was a waste of time and dumb if it was just gonna result in them failing and crawling back inside to die. Not to mention that they had what they needed right there infront of them but because it was pouring out of a few bullet holes they acted as if it was ruined and undrinkable.

What was stopping them from going over there and holding their mouths open underneath it while it was pouring out? or as others have said just filled up some jugs by holding them underneath it while it was pouring out? Cause when it cut to them back inside saying they couldn't get it i was confused as hell, this was without a doubt one of the dumbest worst bits of writing i've seen on this show.

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There was a scene in the movie Limitless where Bradley Cooper's character drinks someone else's blood from the floor because it contained a brain-enhancing drug he desperately needed in that moment to survive.

People will indeed go to great extremes to survive, we have a very powerful survival instinct, but not this group, no. They just succumb to dying no matter how many lifelines you throw them.

this was without a doubt one of the dumbest worst bits of writing i've seen on this show.

Or ever.



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they wouldn't be able to drink it straight, but they'd only need to collect about a gallon of it for everyone. Mix it down about 6 oz into a half gallon of water per person, about half that for the kid. About the same as a 6-pack of beer per person

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Yeah, I was sitting there, looking at my TV in disbelief. First of all, they just happen to have a container full of exactly what they need to use as an antidote...Much like the ladder truck last? episode. Then they shoot it to shit and just watch it pour out. I very much doubt those bullets punctured the lowest point of the tanker as the machine guns were strafing. I'd imagine there was still hundreds of litres left even after it finished draining from the holes.

It should have ended with Morgan dying from his wound getting infected. Then everyone else dying from organ failure or whatever happens when you ingest antifreeze.

New season, new people and hope they don't fuck it up again. Or follow up with what Daniels doing.

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I admit to warming up to FTWD after the wretched first season but it always had severe writing flaws. I thought this season started off pretty good (although it could be a matter of relativity) but it went downhill fast. The Vultures were interesting. Killing main characters was interesting. Mo Collins showing up was kinda cool. Then it was like they realized that they had some dumb shit deficit they had to catch up on. I thought the penultimate episode was legendary bad but the finale was one of the worst episodes of a show that I have watched ever. Right up there with Under the Dome, The Strain, or any of the later episodes of Burn Notice directed by Renny Harlan.
Having only just seen this episode, I came here to rant about everything I see here already thoroughly spurned. I too wished that they all would have died (except maybe John).

Alternate ending: They drink from the tank like actual thinking humans and survive. Morgan keeps his promise to "get there" but he arrives as a zombie and bites 80% of them before they dispatch him.

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How about that opening scene where Maggie Grace had more than enough time to blow that crazy bitch's head off and she didn't.

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Yup. These people are terrible at the zombie apocalypse. They have no right to be surviving considering their piss poor decision making skills. I would have a zero tolerance approach to fuckery and dropped her at the earliest opportunity after discovering she was a nutter trying to kill people.

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Agreed. I wouldn't waste time trying to redeem hopeless psychotics. Nor would I give them a Captain Kirk esque burial after they tried to kill me a bunch of times.

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