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By "I", I ofcourse mean the capitalist, who else purchases labor? The difference is only where is the source of my labor? Am I getting labor from the small labor pool in my nation, or am I sourcing labor from the large pool of the entire world. If I'm sourcing labor from my nation (small pool) I have to have a vested interest in making sure that the laborers reproduce so that the labor pool may be maintained, In other words I have to make sure that the people farm has a fair stock of people. People don't typically reproduce unless they are wealthy enough to reproduce (i.e they have a stable dwelling and can afford to feed one more mouth).
If I source from the globe, I need not care about these things because the supply of labor far exceeds any demand.
You have a different perception of "globalist" from me. A globalist, from my perspective, is someone who advocates global imperialism, or one who advocates for the abolishment of all states except for one and this one global state will have laws that apply to everyone in the state regardless of regional disparities in preferences for laws. A globalist is anti-self-determination and anti-freedom of people to form small governments which have laws that are specifically tailored to the niche interests of people in a particular region.
You seem to be thinking not only about globalism, but about globalism on top of national ownership of businesses. I could go into why national ownership of businesses is bad, but that's a different topic from globalism.
Ofcourse I don't deny that. But, if I source my labor from all over the empire, and the empire spans the globe, how is that different from global capitalism?
Martoto, what is a "global capitalist" according to you?
I'll tell you what it is according to me: It's someone who expands the labor market to the entire world, so that there is a near infinite supply of labor and therefore no labor competition which naturally drives down labor costs, i.e. wages.
How are the two ways that the labor market is expanded from a national self-contained labor market to a global market?
1) Immigration - as a capitalist I no longer have to care about my nation's labor resource because I can simply import more labor. I don't have to care if my nation's labor is able to have enough money to own a house or reproduce because even if they don't reproduce I will continue to have labor resource or my business thanks to immigration.
2) Outsourcing - purchasing cheap labor from abroad. This not only increases my profit margin because outside labor is cheaper than labor inside my nation, but also it ensures that the country selling labor to me will grow much more slowly because they are significantly underselling their labor power which could otherwise be used to improve their own national businesses or improve their infrastructure.
I don't think that you see that there is very little distinction if any between globalism and economic globalism (i.e global capitalism).
If my empire reaches all of the globe, then ofocurse capitalists in one region of of the empire can source labor from another region of the empire and they don't have to care about laborers because the labor pool is so huge.
This is a contrast to nationalism where the capitalist is forced to care about the labor in his small nation because if the laborers don't have a good life and reproduce then the there will be lower labor supply, therefore more competition for labor and therefore labor price will keep on going up, or wages will keep increasing.
I haven't even talked about other problems with globalism, such as people in one region of the globe might have different preferences from another region of the globe, yet everyone in the empire has to follow the same laws dictated by the world government. Laws will inevitably be unjust due to different regional preferences.
Yes, the movie takes place in the aftermath of events in Braveheart.
Cloverfield Paradox wasn't that bad. Certainly not as bad as Venom, for instance.
Alien:Covenant still continues the theme of Prometheus is you pay careful attention to David in both movies.
If your complaint is about the name change, that's shallow. Who cares about the name?
Alien, Prometheus, and Alien:Covenant.
Ofcourse the squealing of low IQ harpy/banshee hybrids got the sequel to Covenant cancelled (also partly because Disney bought Fox).
I can't remember the original reddit discussions and where I had expressed some doubt that the girl was good. I agree with you on everything.
I have engaged in some private discussions on reddit about the movie after the reddit thread got closed. Unfortunately, reddit's algorithm automatically closes posts from comments after a certain period of time. I contacted the moderators, but they can't do anything about it.
After some discussions I have somewhat revised my views on the final encounter between he deacon and the shaman in the cave. I think it could be the case that the shaman is infact dead, and what the deacon saw in the cave was a product of his crazed hallucinations induced by the of the girl's persuasion and the persuasion generated by all of the false rumors throughout the town.
Another thing that I have had discussions about and something that I was unable to resolve is the Il-Gwang's comment back in the village when the forest shaman died, something along the lines of "The rat has fallen for the trap". Ofcourse this comment doesn't support one hypothesis or the other, because according to the alternative hypothesis Il-Gwang would not make a comment like this if he is allied with the other shaman. Maybe he simply sensed some energy pass away and assumed that it was the death hex killed the evil spirit, I don't know. Apparently the statement is different in other translations of the film. In any case it's a confusing line.
He would have thought that the scanner itself was part of the conspiracy and falsely identifies hosts as humans because the deception is part of Ford's grand agenda.
You don't know the socio-economic climate of the future. If all labor is done by robots, imagine robots that do not attempt to mimic humans and are therefore not 'hosts', then there is no labor performing human underclass, everyone is equally elite or unelite.
I think you misunderstood what I wrote.
Thinking of it in terms of past/future is incorrect. All of it might be taking place in the future in a simulation.
The simulation is iterative and every time MiB makes an 'incorrect' decision, that particular iteration ends and a new one begins.
We (the audience) don't know which iteration we are seeing. Except we can be sure of one thing, that is that in whatever iteration we are seeing, MiB is doing the correct intended action. When MiB entered the elevator that is the first incorrect action we have seen. He probably did many other incorrect actions throughout the course of the show leading to repeated ends of simulations, but those endings were not shown to the audience, the audience is only shown the simulation iterations in which MiB performed the correct action.
I'll give a hypothetical example: Imagine that in one iteration, when the drops of water fall from the chandelier from the dead simulated wife's overflowing bathtub, MiB calls a plumber instead of immediately running up the stairs to discover his wife. This (his calling the plumber instead of running up) would be an incorrect action/decision and would have triggered an end of simulation leading to him seeing his daughter in the future and his daughter saying: we are testing for fidelity. That iteration of the simulation would be over. But, we (the audience) did not see the incorrect decision of him calling the plumber, because up until we are shown the incorrect decision of him entering the elevator, all actions that we are seeing are the correct actions. The millions of incorrect decisions and millions of ends of simulations are kept from our view.
When MiB gets up and enters the elevator, that is the first 'incorrect' action the audience is shown. He was never supposed to get up and enter the elevator.
When we see him in the beach later, we are seeing a different iteration of the simulation wherein MiB did perform the correct action and which did not trigger end of simulation (i.e he did not enter the elevator).
It's difficult to explain. I'm not sure I made myself clear.
They are all kids movies. Star Wars is a kid's franchise, Jurassic Park is a kid's franchise.
When someone actually tries to reclaim a kid's franchise and turn it into an adult franchise with complex themes like Ridley Scott tried to do with the Alien franchise, all of the kids cry out in pain and scout: "I want my low IQ kid's content!"
You kids will remain kids until your death bed, and the adults are suffering because the Alien franchise won't be continued. Congratulations, live in your bubble kid paradise.
Oh! I totally forgot.
I don't know. There is something fishy going on.
Earlier, we see MiB getting up from where he shot his own hand off. Then he got into the lift and went down. But, we never see him reappear from the elevator until the end credits.
I thought that MiB would meet Bernard on the elevator when Bernard was going up, but there was surprisingly nobody on the elevator when the doors opened for Bernard. The shots set up the expectation that MiB is in the elevator, and based on timeline, he should be in the elevator, but he never comes out.
I can only speculate about what is going on:
He says "my park" emphatically, which may be a hint. Both Westworld and the supposed "outside world" is a simulation. Westworld is a simulation within the simulation. The whole thing was created in order to test and give memories to MiB. MiB may not be a host, and may instead be a biological clone who is being given the same exact memories as the original MiB through "his park".
The clone MiB behaved in the exact same manner as the original MiB up until the moment he entered the elevator, at which point he deviated from what the original MiB did, this is what caused the end of the simulation and meeting with his daughter. The lack of fidelity ended that iteration of the simulation.
This makes sense, because if the original MiB had entered the elevator, then he would have met Bernard on the elevator, which didn't happen.
What the original MiB did and how he ended up on the beach remains to be seen.
What are you talking about?
Yeah it's slightly weaker than last season, especially in terms of production quality, but still far better than any other show out there.
"Secret" host reveal LMAO! Anyone who missed that "secret" reveal must be an absolute dunce or don't understand English.
He literally said "guess I'll stick to the role Ford gave me" and "guess you can call it my 'core drive'"
How could anyone possibly miss it!?
I've written the answer here: [url]https://moviechat.org/tt0475784/Westworld/5b27e6b39102ec0014f30673/If-teddy-died-there?reply=5b312b5a7e71840014453b2f[/url]
You were not paying attention. The whole valley becomes the lake.
The valley is very big. Dolores and Teddy entered the valley long ago. If you recall, the ghost nation tried to stop Teddy and Dolores from entering the valley. Teddy killed a few of them and let some of them go. It was just after this event that Dolores and Teddy initially entered the valley. The valley was still dry at this point.
In the future the rescue crew began draining the valley shortly after finding the floating bodies.
As for why Teddy's body is with the other host bodies: All of the bodies were swept away from their point of origin. It is not that uncommon for the tide sweep and bring together all floating debris.