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She wasn't. Casper got top billing. That is the way to tell who is the lead role.
Easy way to get caught by police. Kids panhandling with no parents around.
It's not a Disney movie. We don't know what happens with Pete. I think there's reason to believe that Pete is with them, by the way Mister is so happy and productive. Maybe it is just that his mother is clean and being a good mother.
Maybe him and Pete don't see eachother again. But their tale was one of survival. He also protected Pete and taught him important lessons.
How was he invasive? Inappropriate? Not really. He was trying to relate to his students. Some of the stuff was just for comedic purposes and it worked.
I think a fair amount of time had passed. His friends realized why it was so hard for him, as he was getting bullied by the jocks and stuff. It made sense for why he was afraid and trying to protect himself. I think it was longer than it seems in the movie. He ignored them for quite a while in the first place, then he finally faced the noise. Eventually his friends forgave him as they sympathized, plus the fact that it didn't sabotage their lives in any way so they could get over it. Abby and the 1 friend, blanking on his name, ended up happy together. The other friend (blanking on name) ends up realizing why Simon wasn't really into her and she can finally be at peace with that.
It was certainly reasonable. The one friend was in love with the other, yet he makes up a bunch of lies to keep them a part. He even tries to fix up the friend with some loser that none of them like. That's seriously messed up.
He also got really flakey with them, ignoring them for a while and not talking it out. At that age everyone is changing and people grow apart. Basically it seemed he changed. He broke the trust of his friends
They wouldn't have cared he was gay, they were best friends. But you can understand Simon too, just buying himself time hoping things would somehow work out.
At first I felt similar to the way you did, as you really empathize with Simon and what he's going through. But you have to see the other side of how he broke his friends trust and really did a shitty thing to them. And it seems like its a short-time frame but he ignores his friends for quite a while instead of owning it.
Dealing drugs and committing robberies since he was a kid. During the time when it was set in the late 80s you could make a killing selling crack. So many of his neighbors were buying crack, it was an epidemic.
It really shows how a young black kid could get sucked into that life.
I picked up on something that I don't think I noticed or mentioned before. In the first episode of the 2nd season, Harley is ready to beat up Cory. Cory says he's not going to run, because he'd rather take a beating than to be the "school coward for the next 6 years"
So yea it was definitely just a 7-12 high school, which I guess made sense for the shows purposes.
That theory came about before Season 2. I think Season 2 kinda erases that theory. Idk though I gues still could be possible? Haven't watched S2 in a little bit.
I don't see the problem. Seniors in high-school are generally 18 years old. Someone in their early 20's are not that far removed from high-school. They picked great actors/actresses for all the roles. Not like they're 30 years old.
I'm not sure it was advertised as a rake-free game. Its not mentioned anywhere that they emphasized no rake in those games. It was just used in her defense to the feds. So it would't even make sense to include someting like that in the movie, the movie was long enough.
Personally I'm not sure how entirely truthful her side of the story was. For instance, when she started rake collecting, her relationship with the Russians, and the time she was attacked and robbed at her apartment. She said she was a drug addict at the time, she might've been trusting a lot of bad people.
Oh ok, the name did sound familiar but he had a small role as one of the bullies. Nick is the person you were thinking of, not Spencer.
She wasn't mad at him for telling her to date Nick. That's the first thing you need to realize. They were still friends after that. It was only after everything came full circle that it was an issue. He was trying to keep Abby and Nick apart, so he tried to setup Leah with Nick. It was manipulative. Nick was still very interested in Abby, Nick knew that, so he was setting his best friend Leah up for a failed relationship from the start. She was already struggling with feeling like an outsider.
What don't you get? It was Simon's imagination. After he eliminated the first 2 people from his mind, then he was imagining someone similar to himself (which is the person you describe) It was what was going on in his head, and its hard to create a unique image of a persons face in your head.
It seems you people lack empathy. You think that this was "overly dramatic" because you can't put yourselves in the shoes of these characters. That's really too bad. I can only imagine you people eye-rolling through the whole thing like "you're gay! get over it!" Sad.
The movie was excellent and it was all very natural. It was also naturally funny.
Apparently there's a character limit so I couldn't address everything in the 1 post since my reply was already long to part 1. I don't know where you went to high-school or how long ago it was, but there definitely wasn't openly gay people everywhere when I was there. The people you knew were gay were ones like Ethan that were effeminate males like you put it. Keep in mind, this school was relatively small where everyone knew each other. Look at the size of the cafeteria and auditorium alone. Maybe you went to a much larger high-school idk.
2) The principal/guidance counselor (or whoever he was) was way over the top and a typical movie character they put in high school movies that doesn't ring true whatsoever.
Don't agree with you at all. There are many teachers and vice principals that are upbeat and lively like this.
3) When they tried to mislead us as to who the unknown correspondent "Blue" was they would show possible scenarios for each person he suspected, but when they showed the actual person they showed a white guy typing (without showing his entire face of course), which was hinted at being the actual guy, yet it turns out to be Bram, who is black.
These were the thoughts of Simon the entire time. So its what he was envisioning in his mind. He thought it was Bram so thats who he was thinking of. Then that got erased when he saw him with the girl about to have sex. So he shifted to someone else, etc.
4) Why was Simon's bff girlfriend Leah so upset that he told her she should date Spencer? How was he to know she liked him (Simon)? I don't get her outrage.
Who tf is Spencer? His name was Nick. I don't know how you can't understand how she was upset. It was very obvious and he did know. It was very hurtful to her as she was in love with him. Idk how you can't understand her being deeply upset. He didn't just tell her he was gay, instead he told her to go out with someone else when there was really no interest there. He was leading his best friends towards lots of dead ends.
5) And is making it both a gay AND interracial thing perhaps too much of a stretch when trying to reach a mainstream audience to accept being gay as no big deal in today's world? I mean, perhaps many conservatives will see this as too much of a liberal push.
Who cares? If they can't accept it then too bad. The movie preaches acceptance of others. If they can't accept homosexual relationships or interracial relationships then too bad. That gripe is really ridiculous.
1) Why is being gay such a big deal in 2018 at this high school and why is there only one other known gay student (a very obvious, effeminate "queen")? Again, this is current-day.
Who said it's a big deal? The student body are all mostly very accepting. When they find out, they don't take it as a big deal at all. However, there are those 2 jocks who give them a hard time and torment them. Simply because they're dicks. Notice he tells his friend Abby before he tells his family. Because one of the things he's most unsure about is how his relationship may change with his family. He tells them "I'm still me". As Ethan explained one of the things thats hard for him is his mother acting like he's straight when talking to their family members. Simon just doesn't want his relationship to change with his dad or mom. He also says one of the reasons he didn't want those e-mails leaked is because then "blue" would get scared off. Simon also says how he doesn't feel comfortable about "having to come out" because its not like that when you're straight. So why does he have to?
Because its awful. It's a lame Christian movie. Great movie for old people or extremely religious Christians. Otherwise, its going to be a pass.
Yea I guess they felt it allowed more for the show. Rather than it being Grades 7-8 where the kids are all pretty much the same age still. And while true it is Philly, it is still a fictional TV show so its whatever.
In Season 1 Episode 13 "She Loves Me, She Loves Me Not", Eric visits the 6th Grade class to talk to them about what they can expect "next year" going to their new school John Adams High as 7th graders. https://youtu.be/Ki84_p3SMmw Starts at 1:55 I loved this show.