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Yeah, he does always seemed to be cursed with their episodes, but maybe they'll change it up next year.
"Jensen is slated to direct again next season!"
Also, I think this is great. Here's hoping he gets a good script.
*Spoiler*
Does anyone have any ideas for why Mark P. would say we'll hate him after the finale? I'm guessing that they're changing pace and making him full-on evil from here on out?
"For s13, they added more personal touches to the bunker. Spoiler: it might be a lazy boy and a flat screen :P"
Is this legit or were they messing?
"They're aware of that too."
I'm sure they are. They both know how to use the internet, and all they'd have to do is google their names and look far enough back through the pages to find it, but knowing that some people fantasize about you is totally different than knowing what some fantasize about you in graphic detail. Maybe the person who asked the question wanted to bond with them over a mutual liking for fanfic and was hoping they read fanfic of other TV shows to build that link with them, but I'm sure that's not where the conversation was going. Maybe the person had written some fanfic and was hoping J2 had seen it, so they could have it turned into an episode of the show. I don't know (again benefit of the doubt). It just seems overly awkward and odd to have that be your question.
"Too many darn cons lol."
:) There certainly are.
"Oh, they've been aware of it for so long. Jensen even gifted Jared with a cell phone cover depicting Wincest art."
Thanks for the link. I know they're aware of Wincest and Destiel. I meant the tin hatter stuff that's about them as opposed to their characters, which I'm sure they would inevitably find if they started down the fanfic rabbit hole.
"I do wish the fans would stop asking about fanfic and ships during cons though. It usually doesn't end well."
Even if the person's intent was to know if they'd read any hunting only fanfic (I'm giving the person the benefit of the doubt. Maybe the person wanted to know if they'd seen the similarities in an episode to a specific fanfic), most people's minds go other places when fanfic is mentioned, and that automatically makes the situation awkward.
Thanks for all of that!
Uhh . . . Could you imagine if they read some of the fanfic that's out there, especially the fanfic that's about them as opposed to Sam and Dean?
Wow. If I could only have one wish granted for this show, it'd be that it was this creepy all the time. I think I could even let a lot of the writing issues go if it were a genuinely creepy kind of horror.
All time favorite characters? Hm. These aren't all of them, but some of them off the top of my head.
Dean Winchester - Supernatural
Jesse Pinkman - Breaking Bad
Raylan Givens & Boyd Crowder - Justified
Fox Mulder - The X-Files
Bernard Black - Black Books
Alan Shore & Denny Crane - Boston Legal
Elijah Krantz - Girls
Walter White - Breaking Bad
Eli Gold - The Good Wife
Paul Spector & Stella Gibson - The Fall
Ken Thompson - Cuckoo
Troy Barnes & Abed Nadir - Community
Captain Holt - Brooklyn Nine-nine
"It seems like she has a really big heart."
It does. She seems lovely and highly intelligent.
By the way, how far are you into season 10?
I kind of liked the first and third Charlie episodes (The Girl with the Dungeons and Dragons Tattoo and Pac-man Fever). I didn't really care for her second episode (LARP and the Real Girl). I hated Slumber Party and actually have it down as my top pick for worst episodes. If I were forced to pick something about that episode that I didn't mind, then I guess it might be Dorothy. As for the rest of Charlie's episodes, I didn't mind There's No Place Like Home until the end, which I hated, I thought Book of the Damned was 'meh', and I thought Dark Dynasty was bad in that it involved all of the characters acting OOC in order for the conclusion to work out the way it did.
Here's an interview from 2015 where she talks briefly about it.
<a href="http://lustyfangirls.com/?p=354">Rachel Miner Interview</a>
Well done Vee! You win this week.
"I don't know, I think the twist/not twist might end up being that the baby is just a baby, and not evil at all."
Yeah, that's what I think too. They've been driving home the 'not all monsters' need to be killed idea all season, so it's setting Dean and Sam up against the BMoL, Cas/angels, and Crowley if they find out that Crowley also wants to kill the baby. Even if it could grow up into an evil adult, it hasn't done anything yet, and Dean and Sam don't kill monsters that haven't killed. It'll probably be more about who ends up wanting to raise the baby more than anything, so I'm expecting Dagon, Crowley, or Lucifer to end up with the baby at the end, and the Winchesters won't know Kelly is dead and the baby is gone until after they're done confronting whoever wants to kill the baby.
Also, they've really messed around with nephilim lore this season, so it's hard to know what is legit lore and what the characters think and have wrong about nephilim. For instance, the angels Cas went with to kill Lily Sunder's kid thought that when nephilim grow into their power, they can destroy worlds, but we saw a nephilim in season 8, and she was an adult. The world was still standing. Cas and Metatron seemed to kill her easily enough. All she seemed able to do was know that Cas was an angel and have superhuman strength. Then you have Dagon saying that the mother never survives the birth of a nephilim. If that's true, then why didn't Cas and company think there was something off about Lily Sunder still being alive if she had a nephilim?
"Admittedly I don't care,"
I may not have wanted to see it, but it's the storyline we've been given, so I care even if I only care enough to be annoyed that it's our storyline and want to see if I'm right on where it's going.
"Meanwhile back at the long ranch... a baby grows like a weed."
Or Amara 2.0, but this time the baby grows into something that really is evil and can't be talked down in the season finale.
Personally, I would have no problem with Dean and Sam not being joined at the hip as long as it's not due to some kind of falling out. If they're good, but need to split up their time to focus on different threats, get equal focus storyline-wise, and keep in touch, that would be fine with me, especially since it's looking more and more like they're going to be attacked on all fronts about this nephilim (Crowley, Cas/angels, BMoL).
About Eileen . . . Let me start by saying that I really like Eileen. Regarding Eileen and Sam . . . I think they started planting the seeds for this last season in Baby. Sam wanted to know if Dean had ever wondered about having something with a hunter, not marriage, but something. Dean dodged it and changed the subject, which said more than if he'd answered yes or no. And because of his confessional scene in Paint It Black in season 10, we know that when Dean thought he was going to come to an end faster than he'd thought, he wanted to experience things and emotions differently than he had in the past or maybe for the first time. Then you have the conversation Sam and Dean had in Into the Mystic when they're doing a salt and burn. Sam said he had given up hope on retirement, but at the end you have him holding onto the pamphlet for the retirement home. Then later in the season, you have Cesar and Jesse. Dean's the one who asks them what it's like to settle down with a hunter, and at the end, Dean chooses not to ask them for help with Amara, because he doesn't want to get in the way of two hunters retiring and settling down together before it's too late.
To me, it makes sense that both Sam and Dean at this point in their lives would wonder about and want these kinds of relationships. If neither of them wanted to have something more in their lives, then them not getting something more wouldn't be tragic. Even a relationship with their Mom is too much for them to be allowed to have and adds to the tragic aspects of the show. It's because they want these kinds of relationships deep down and can't let themselves have them as long as they're hunters or because people die or outright reject them that this story is a tragedy despite all of the humorous moments in the show (Comedy = wedding at the end; Tragedy = death at the end. I'll add that this seems to be what the fans want. They don't want the brothers parted, with other people, in romantic relationships, etc., and given what we know about Sam and Dean, that's a tragic tale, not a happy one, because both brothers want more than that deep down but can't have it).
Despite this shaping up to be a tragedy, it's not beyond the realm of possibility that one or both of them might consider looking for romantic relationships in the world of hunters. The two romantic relationships that Sam has had were both built on lies. Maybe he thinks that being in a relationship with someone who knows about the supernatural and who he doesn't have lie to about anything would make it 3rd time lucky for him. With Dean, Lisa knew about the supernatural world, but she wasn't a hunter and therefore didn't know how to protect herself the way a hunter would, and because she wasn't a hunter, she never really quite understood Dean.
Enter Eileen. Sam may have wondered about having something real with a hunter, but that's different than finding one that he actually likes, and I think that what we'll see is that he's going to be reluctant to try anything even with a hunter, and if he's not reluctant and decides to go for it, then Eileen won't last the series . . . Again. Tragedy. So, if you want Eileen to stick around, then she can't be with Sam.
Oh yeah! How could I forget Garth? He's definitely one who could potentially be killed off screen. They had to bring him up for a reason, right? On the other hand, if Mick was really starting to change his way of thinking, maybe he left it off of his reports.
"I was thinking off-screen kills maybe, or random hunters we don't know. The writers probably want all the other hunters to come back as some point."
Yeah, that's what I was thinking too about the hunters coming together against the threat, but I'm also thinking the most likely candidate for on-screen death is Bucky for some reason. If he's able to get a text or something to Dean or Sam right before he dies, then him dying and warning the Winchesters might be a way to redeem him, and this season seems to be about redemption as much as anything else.
Also, I'm curious to find out who the first hunters that Ketch kills will be. Are we going to lose the twins? They have some interesting potential. Bucky? Claire? Eileen? Jody? Donna? Cesar and Jesse? Are they going to be randoms? For it to make an impact on us, I think we'll have to see hunters being killed that we already know, or are we just going to hear about off-screen kills in the form of warning or SOS messages left on the Winchesters' phones?