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<blockquote>[–] DodgersRule 11 years ago
While the mother seemed rather mean spirited I think she felt terrible about what they were being forced to do but hid it behind a mask of "good riddance" -- She even kept Lassie's bowl!</blockquote>
I do appreciate details like that did show Helen's humanity and true, underlying feelings. I'm glad that after the first 20-30 minutes or so, she definitely gets better.
I still feel that Helen's initial nastiness was totally unnecessary(defense mechanism or not), especially when she and her husband both kept were insisting that their child suck up his heartbreak without any complaints.
I totally forgot how close Lassie and Toots became in such a short time. I love their relationship. It was so cute that Toots would wait for Lassie to show up before she started performing!
I also loved how Gwenn would tease Lassie, calling her "your majesty."
Watching the film now and the scene with Toots' death just finished. My goodness, it doesn't get any easier to watch no matter how many times I see it. I can't even skip the scene, no matter how painful it is. It would just feel... Wrong.
I'm so glad Edmund Gwenn reappeared in the series, continuing to advocate for Lassie's welfare, such as in <i>Challenge to Lassie.</i>
I could actually give Sam some grace. He definitely should've been way better and more sensitive. But, at least he communicated with Joe and tried to give him some reassurance.
Unlike with Helen. It's bad enough she wasn't comforting or understanding to Joe at all, she was downright nasty and made the whole situation worse! I don't care if it's just a cover-up or whatever. If Joe could be mature and graceful about the situation inspite of his broken heart, there is absolutely no excuse for his mother. None!
<blockquote>[–] LordLustworthy 16 years ago
The mother was worse than the father, IMO. She thought it would HELP if she said things like "I'm glad she's gone!"
I had more sympathy for Elsa when she was the Bride of Frankenstein.
"They're all gonna laugh at you! They're all gonna laugh at you!</blockquote>
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Haha, I love this post! So funny and totally agree!
I don't care what the mother's excuses are! Don't be an asshole, esp. when you have a darling, understanding kid like Joe.
It's simply disgraceful that Joe was so much more mature and graceful about the situation than either one of his parents, esp. that bitchy mom of his.
I actually found Fonda's crying in Period of Adjustment hilarious! Actually, the way she gave switching between southern belle and OTT yelling was hilarious to me. Whereas, Jean's ""crying" made me want to rip out her vocal chords! It didn't help that her character was an awful, unlikeable b*tch to begin with. What all those guys see in her I'll never understand even all these years later.
<blockquote>[–] taikwan 10 years ago
Also provided a memory for Yuri - When his wife is ironing and the camera focuses on the iron, the sound of that iron and the look in Yuri's eyes leaves no doubt as to who he is thinking of.</blockquote>
Thank you for this! At first, I was thinking this is some serious overthinking. O.o But, even such a seemingly insignificant task has great significance in this film!
<blockquote>[–] palisade-1 9 years ago
The film makes it clear, but subtly, that Yevgrav (1) admired Yuri and felt protective toward him (the whole scene from the time he observes Yuri stealing firewood through his intervention at the former house of the Gromykos and his voice-over during the scene where Yuri explains his thoughts), and (2) had affection for Lara. He says, towards the end, that he was "a little in love with her." That's why he wanted to help her find her daughter, and why he (we infer) kept up the search long after Lara herself disappeared.
There is also the suggestion that Yevgrav, the unrepentent Bolshevik, feels regret at some of the human cost of the Revolution (think of the scene where he talks to the manager of the dam at the beginning) and his search for Yuri and Lara's daughter is an effort both to heal some of the harm and to connect both to the past and the future.</blockquote>
Beautifully written insight into Yevgrav's character and thoughts. Thank you! So many wonderfully complex characters in this one story.
<blockquote>[–] Cuneo 10 years ago
So Zhivago dates Lara because she's a female Lawrence in the same way George Constanza dates Tracey Nelson because she looks like Jerry Seinfeld (a Sherry)? I'm speechless, completely without speech.
"Walked five miles to school and back, uphill both ways. No, really, I have pictures." MC Escher</blockquote>
I think this is one of my favorite comments of all time. xD
Haha, I totally forgot about this post, but still agree all these years later. It's funny that there are plenty of people insisting that O'Toole would've been better in Sharif's role. Christie and O'Toole's equal levels of beauty and physical resemblances are enough to make me glad that O'Toole was not cast. It would've been so weird and creepy to see them as a passionate, romantic couple!
"[Rough seduction]" my ass. How insulting that you choose this phrase that downplays and even romanticizes it what was, ultimately, sexual assault, no matter how "[seductive]" it looked. FYI, this is often a tried and effective tactic that rapists (especially a trusted associate) often uses in order to take advantage, victim-blame, and deceive everyone into thinking there was consent, in order to cast the blame off themselves. It's very unfortunate you fell for that trap.
I hope you have educated yourself on what consent is since you made your post. Otherwise, you have some serious education and reflection to do!
He did "rape" her. Just because they had sex before doesn't mean that it will always be consensual. You have some serious educating to do for yourself on what consent is and how it works.
Just because someone has self-doubts makes them no less a rape victim! Lara was clearly not consenting. Even if she "gave in" eventually, it does not change she <b>did not consent!</b>
Consent is not a perpetual thing that cannot be withdrawn at any time. If you think otherwise you have some serious reflection and educating to do on what consent actually is!
I think that would've made more sense if he said "<b>if</b> this was rape," but by saying it so definitively muddles the meaning...
Kudos to Steiger for trying and in such a way that, if not completely convincing, at least he didn't sound bad. In fact, I liked his "accent" and diction in the film. He was still very well spoken.
Oh my goodness, I totally see it now! I didn't realize that was Klaus Kinski!
I don't recall this line and I think whatever "overacting" done was in character. But, the way you wrote it is so funny. Thanks for the laugh. ^^
You're crazy! You *wish* you were as good looking as Chaplin!
I do agree with a lot of what you said. Perhaps a lot of it was intentional. I disagree about the actors' chemistry though.
Ilsa and Rick are better written, but I never felt any chemistry between Bogart and Bergman, so their love story is one of my least favorite parts about <i>Casablanca.</i>Whereas while Lara and Yuri are underwritten (at least in the film), Christie and Sharif's chemistry is much more believable to me(go figure). So, while I don't admire their adultery, I can still feel their passion and longing for each other.
I think the conversation went something like: '[Why do we talk about about the English so much?].' To which the response was, '[Because we admire them so much].' xD