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How Joe's parents broke the news to him


Frankly, Joe's parents were rather insensitive when they told the boy that they had to sell Lassie. They could have broken the news to the kid more gently, but Joe's Father was obviously an unsentimental realist. Frankly, I thought the man was also a crude,and totally insensitive LOUT and Joe's Mom wasn't much of an improvement either. They underestimated the strong bond between Lassie and Joe, and if Joe's Father had tried to sell Lassie again after the Duke pretended that he did not recognize her (Donald Crisp's character had a HEART OF GOLD), Joe would have turned his back on his parents and despised them for the rest of his life.

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CORRECTION, NIGEL BRUCE PLAYED THE DUKE, NOT DONALD CRISP. SORRY ABOUT THAT!

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i have a totally different view on this. joe's father an unsentimental realist? i had the impression he was so moved by his own failure (he didn't have a job which is why he had to sell lassie and therefore had to make his son feeling absolutely miserable) that he couldn't tell joe. he couldn't even look into joe's eyes. joe's mom seemed a little harsh throughout the film but this was her way of trying to make it easier for joe and to hide her own feelings about the loss of lassie from herself.

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The mother was worse than the father, IMO. She thought it would HELP if she said things like "I'm glad she's gone!"


I had more sympathy for Elsa when she was the Bride of Frankenstein.

"They're all gonna laugh at you! They're all gonna laugh at you!

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[–] LordLustworthy 16 years ago
The mother was worse than the father, IMO. She thought it would HELP if she said things like "I'm glad she's gone!"


I had more sympathy for Elsa when she was the Bride of Frankenstein.

"They're all gonna laugh at you! They're all gonna laugh at you!

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Haha, I love this post! So funny and totally agree!

I don't care what the mother's excuses are! Don't be an asshole, esp. when you have a darling, understanding kid like Joe.

It's simply disgraceful that Joe was so much more mature and graceful about the situation than either one of his parents, esp. that bitchy mom of his.

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It was an insensitive way to tell him, but I think they were A) dealing with their own sadness at having to sell her and B) trying to make it a closed subject, as there was no way they could get her back (or so they thought). There was nothing for them to discuss at that point because she was already sold, so they wanted to just move on and not talk about it at all because it was too painful.

Both parents probably felt ashamed, especially Donald Crisp, that they had to deprive their son what he loved most due to inability to provide for the family. It would have been nice for Joe to have parents who were more comforting at such an awful time, but they had guilt standing in the way.



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#3 of my

Worst Movie Mothers Ever.

right after Mrs. John Iselin in The Manchurian Candidate and Lily Dillon in The Grifters.

"Well, for once the rich white man is in control!" C. M. Burns

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I agree. I felt really sorry for Joe. His parents could have sympathized more with him-- children are really sensitive.

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This shows a good example of how in the past the family was not centered around the child or a pet dog, while today it is.

Children, and dogs for that matter, were just a product of the family, meant to serve a purpose.

The family would have instead centered aroung the father/breadwinner and his needs and wants, as provider. That is why the other poster is correct, that much of the father's actions and silences are due to his shame in not being able to provide. Also the Parents have feelings but have been brought up to be stoic and hide them, and be practical. They attempt to have Joe understand that he needs to be the same, in the matter of the sale of Lassie.

Their actions are true to their time period, not ours.

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"Their actions are true to their time period, not ours."


Yes, I agree with you, Gailsmile.

It was the depression era. No time or opportunity to feel sentimental about what had to be done for the good of the family.

I do think the father was very upset, he coudn't face Joe when Joe came in from school and the mother was left to be the one to tell him.

It did seem very cruel by today's standards, but we are living in a much different time. They were doing what they actually felt was better for the boy - dwelling on sadness & loss over an animal was an indulgence the family could not afford.

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Exactly. Adults realistically saw another mouth to feed. They didn't let themselves get too close to pets the way people do now. For one, the dog will die long before the human - fact of life that rural people dealt with everyday. Dogs weren't 'family members'.They had o be practical especially during the Great Depression and it carried on post GD. It was not unlikely that they may have to choose between feeding their child or the dog - the child is gonna win out every time.Why get so attached when these likelihoods might/will come to pass ?
No 3k Vet. bills either. Put 'em down if they get too sick.Poverty and priorities.
They'd never go in to debt over a pet. Hard to believe they're 'dinner' in some Asian countries - just like poultry and beef/pork. Theres a 'healthy balance' in there somewhere ! A sign of our affluence too - some would say 'decadence'.
I loved this movie though. The horse drawn wagon and the dogs in the English countryside - looked like a neat way of life to me ! Anybody notice how he slipped the little dog a 'treat' when she returned the hoop ? Hard to see - you have to look very close. It was in the same hand he grabbed the hoop with. As soon as the dogs mouth makes contact with his hand you can see his finger move and the dog grab it. A quick cut/edit covers up any other hint as to what transpired. If life could only be like this movie.... oh, without the stick wielding hobos ! Not that unrealistic I guess !

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Perhaps adults back then weren't as sentimental about pets but children certainly were. Laura Ingalls Wilder talks about the family dog, Jack, as if he was another member of the family. In the early books, he gets as much mention as her baby sister. There were also films like this one and "National Velvet" about the connection that children have to animals. Heck, my 60 something father still gets misty eyed about a dog he had who died during a botched spaying when he was a boy.

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I grew up in the 1950s and 1960s, and our dogs were all beloved family members. My parents, who grew up in the 1930s (Great Depression) and 1940s, talked about the beloved dogs of their childhoods. My grandmother, who grew up in the 1890s and 1900s on a farm in Texas, told me about dogs who were loved by the family when she was a kid. Our relationships with dogs are nothing new.

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That's what you think.

Unless yr family is very rich, of course.

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You are completely incorrect when you claim that Sam was a "crude and totally insensitive lout". He knows that he has to break the news to Joe, as times were very hard, and he and his wife do it the best way that they know how.

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While the mother seemed rather mean spirited I think she felt terrible about what they were being forced to do but hid it behind a mask of "good riddance" -- She even kept Lassie's bowl!

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[–] DodgersRule 11 years ago
While the mother seemed rather mean spirited I think she felt terrible about what they were being forced to do but hid it behind a mask of "good riddance" -- She even kept Lassie's bowl!


I do appreciate details like that did show Helen's humanity and true, underlying feelings. I'm glad that after the first 20-30 minutes or so, she definitely gets better.

I still feel that Helen's initial nastiness was totally unnecessary(defense mechanism or not), especially when she and her husband both kept were insisting that their child suck up his heartbreak without any complaints.

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Lassie had to be sold so they could eat, but Sam wasn't going without pipe tobacco. Something not quite right there.

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I could actually give Sam some grace. He definitely should've been way better and more sensitive. But, at least he communicated with Joe and tried to give him some reassurance.

Unlike with Helen. It's bad enough she wasn't comforting or understanding to Joe at all, she was downright nasty and made the whole situation worse! I don't care if it's just a cover-up or whatever. If Joe could be mature and graceful about the situation inspite of his broken heart, there is absolutely no excuse for his mother. None!

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