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Thanks for all your kind replies and sharing of stories. A love of animals does seem to bring people together. It's at least one nice side effect of losing a pet, if there IS one!
I think about The Hunt and how dogs are portrayed in TV and cinema as so loyal, but you never see a story like that about a cat.
I've had LOTS of cats and my Lucy was the most loyal cat ever. It 's been hard thinking about Sally because I lost my Lucy last week. Found her about fifteen years ago when I lived out in the country. She was an adult but of course I didn't know her exact age. She was a black and white tuxedo cat.
There were farms nearby and a number of "barn cats." We actually took in a couple because even though we had a bunch of dogs, my son wanted a CAT! Typical kid. But they'd always take off and run back to the barn.
This one, Lucy, was different. I saw her on the lawn on a blazing hot August day. She allowed me to pick her up. She was panting from the heat. She smelled like hay and I thought, "barn cat!" I took her in and gave her a drink and she never left.
I'd allow her outside because I thought maybe she was on her way home when I found her. But she never, ever left the premises. She would sleep on my lap or jump in bed and cuddle and purr so LOUD! It was like she found "her human."
The last few months she was just fading away from old age. She still ate but she was light as a feather. She was always jumping up to sleep by my side. The last night she jumped in bed with me and she was "gone" by morning. I was glad we were together 'till the end.
I have other much younger cats. I took in a stray a few years ago which I found on a walk with Sally. She dumped kittens on me and then ran off! They're good cats but they don't possess Lucy's almost dog-like loyalty. She was one of a kind.
Too bad TZ never did a story about the loyalty of a feline like her. I hope Lucy met up with Sally on the other side. She used to cuddle up with Sally and they'd nap together.
Harry Chapin, the talented singer/songwriter, probably best known for Cat's in the Cradle, died tragically in a car accident at the age of 38.
No one has yet mentioned Elvis. He was only forty-two. It was a shock when died. But when I saw documentaries about how ill he was, his physical problems, his massive overuse of prescription drugs and the unethical nitwit doctors who kept supplying them, I was surprised that it did not happen sooner.
Well that is an interesting point, Walmart vs. mom and pop stores. When I was a kid, we had a lot of mom and pop stores, one in every neighborhood. The town I live in and the one I grew up in ( a few miles away) had lots of little stores on the main street. We had shoe stores, clothing stores, food stores,etc.
Now, we have almost nothing. The JC Penney stores in both towns left years ago. So did Woolworths, shoe stores, etc. Now the biggest store is Wal-Mart. Otherwise you have to drive 20 miles to the mall.
Truly I have no solution (nor any power) to fix these problems. I try my best to give my business to whatever local stores that we have. I just don't know how all the "little people" can make businesses come back to depressed economic areas like the one I live in.
Of course a lot of the wealthy "control the tax structure" as you said. They have the politicians in thier back pockets owing to all the contributions that they make to their campaigns.
I really don't have an argument here. Just don't know what to do except to try to do my best with a rigged system!
I don't think you want to start an argument by asking a fair question! No problem there.
Our Founders were quite aware of human nature and its tendency to try and take over society. They authored a document which gave very LIMITED power to government. Most of the power was to reside with the people of each individual state. Over the last hundred years or so, the power of the states and of the people has been gradually eroded, and as a result Washington DC and the Federal government wield power that the Founders never wanted nor envisioned.
The founders were "men of that time" but they were wise enough to understand human nature. They were only a generation removed from the monarchy rule of Europe. They wanted to institute a government "of the people".
Our former Pres Obama as a Marxist? You only need to read some of his speeches, some of his thoughts or his book "Dreams of My Father." He came across as someone who held disdain for the free market capitalist system. He wanted to "remake" America. Institution "Obamacare" and having the government in charge of health care is at the core of a government run country. Sure, everyone deserves access to health care. But the government being in charge of MY HEALTH is not the way I want to live! Anyone with any common sense would think that way too. Once the government controls your health care, it controls your LIFE! America USED to be based on the idea of freedom. If you allow someone to control you because it says it will PAY for you, well kiss your freedom goodbye!
As for that second ammendment, I never wanted the government to decide if or when I can defend myself( even though I don't own any guns). My problem is that I get VERY pee'd off when Hillary Clinton and many liberal Hollywood celebrities are so pro- gun control while THEY live behind walled, gated communities and have paid for, gun carrying security! What a bunch of freaking hypocrites. THEIR security is paramount for themselves and their familes! But for us, the great unwashed rabble, we can just do without because we are TOO STUPID, according to their "brllliant" minds, to know how to handle guns!
Okay. I say let's get rid of the 2nd Ammendment when and IF Hillary Clinton gives up HER armed security detail. Hypocrites!
Anyway, serious questions, I enjoy discussing the topic. No need to think you've started an argument, lol. Ask me more if you don't understand what I meant. I always enjoy talking about these issues.
"Income inequality" is hardly a new phenomenon. In the Middle Ages, you were either royalty, nobility or one of the countless group of peasants and landless workers. There was NO middle class.
There has ALWAYS been income inequality. But unlike what the left expects of government, politicians CANNOT create equality. Truth is , there will always be hardworking people, smart people, and people who have inherited wealth. There will also be lazy people, hardworking but unfortunate people, and people who try hard but make bad or unlucky choices.
The government cannot create equality. It can try to create a level playing field. But in the end, each person has to carry the ball and cross the finish line for himself. The intrusive government is only an impediment.
Well I would have to agree with you! We didn't have much of a choice this election! I was at a loss to decide what to do, as most voters were.
Hillary Clinton has a history of a lot more than "misdemeanors". But according to the rabid feminists in our country, her "vagina" should have trumped (no pun intended) her negatives. The woman is crooked and a self serving liar, through and through, and she rode Bill Clinton's coattails to power. She sickens me. Feminists adore her. But she used a man to get to power. So she doesn't exactly impress me.
But truthfully, Trump never thrilled me either! He always seemed like an ego-centric businessman. But I feared and loathed Hillary's left wing agenda so much, I voted for Trump.
All I can do is hope and pray that Pres. Trump has the country's best interests at heart. I have no personal power. I can't change anything. ALL I can do is hope and pray!!
Welcome to the discussion catbookss! I have loved the show my whole life. There are so many great episodes that need to be discussed!
I have my favorites, just like everyone does. It's always a pleasure to discuss them. Join in whenever you want to.
NOBODY wanted to punch him?? Well since you are living in the UK , I must say that you are NOT really aware of what conservatives thought of Obama's Marxist philosophy.
Pres. Obama did a lot to divide America on racial lines, every chance that he got. But you'd have to be living here to be aware of that.
I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt. But when he declared that he wanted to " radically transform America" it sent a shiver down my spine. Sure, we can always use improvements. But NO WAY was Barack Obama wiser than the men who created our Constitution. I did NOT want my country "transformed" by a Marxist. If he wanted to transform a country, he was welcome to go back to his daddy's home in Africa and transform THEM!
Truth is, I never really liked Donald Trump. But if he was the only chance to keep that criminal creep Hillary Clinton OUT of the White House, I was all for him. The woman is walking, talking evil in a pantsuit. I loathe her and all she stands for.
godewey----- Great minds think alike? Maybe yours is great, mine? Not so much. lol
If I had to pick one, I guess I'd go with the People are Alike episode. Of course it would be hard, losing your freedom and missing family and friends. But I'd live better than Sam! They read his mind in order to design a home for him. For one thing, MY imagination would definitely be a bit more elaborate than his. My dream house would have a Jaccuzzi, a swimming pool and a full time chef!
Okay, maybe they wouldn't give me the chef. An entertainment center with movies and music would be nice. But I'd really want a library. I'd finally have all the time I wanted to read! There are so many books I have on my list but I don't think the Martians would be able to supply them by reading my mind. They couldn't know what they were about if I hadn't read them. But I'd settle for rereading all the many books I've read over the years.
The other episode I'd want to be in is , strangely enough, The Hunt. No I don't want to go hunting and drown in a pond! But I envy Hyder because he knows his dog will be with him in the afterlife.
It's been almost a year since I lost my golden retriever Sally. She was fifteen. I had her since she was seven weeks old. She was my best buddy and companion. I took her everywhere except to work and to church. If people saw me without her they'd ask, "Where's Sally?"
I thought I'd be getting over her loss but I miss her so much. It got even worse the other day. My mom asked me if I saw an ad in the classified that advertised a free, year old golden retriever. So I called to ask but the dog had already been given away. I should not have gotten my hopes up. I was so sad. I thought maybe THIS was the dog for me.
I really want to get an adult dog because so many are given away or abandoned. I want a golden or a Lab. They are the cutest puppies but I don't think people realize what is involved when they grow up. They have huge appetites and if you don't exercise them, they turn into porkers! lol
Sally and I walked for an hour or two every day. She loved her walks. When I see The Hunt and Hyder is walking with Rip I envy him because his dog accompanies him to the "other side."
I keep hoping to see Sally again. It makes me sad! Boy this is a "cheerful" topic. lol Sorry to be such a downer
Oh I definitely agree! I'll love Star Trek forever. But some of the situations were so contrived in order for the Enterprise to"come to the rescue."
I have several books about the making of the show and one of the criticisms is how the show resorted to "puzzle box" situations a lot. Kirk and often the whole landing party would be captured or otherwise separated from their communicators. They they'd have to work their way out of yet another trap.
It's probably easier to look back and criticize now since in the 21st century technology has evolved. I think in the 23rd century the crew members would have some sort of tiny transponders imbedded in them so the ship would always be able to locate them and beam them out. Remember in Aliens, the colonists had PDTs" Personal Data Transmitters. I think that's what they were called.
Okay, yeah I said it was a loong time since I saw the episode. lol From what you said, it appears that Salish's father used poor judgment to, say the least. He may have been someone who really enjoyed the power of his position and didn't want to share it.
They seemed to be a peaceful tribe so I doubt if Salish would have harmed his father just to get to be Medicine Chief a bit early. I'm thinking that dear old dad was just a control freak!
Gosh, do you feel that way about rap singers who talk about pu@@y and call women b^tches and "hoes"?
Interesting that the OP wants to slap the President. Verrry interesting considering if someone expressed the same desire when looking at our last President they'd be labeled a racist, bigot, hater, evil, probably in the KKK....ad nauseum.
Pres Trump IS SMUG? Did you ever get a good look at the self satisfied smug look on Pres. Obama's face the last eight years?
It's TDS, Trump Derangement Syndrome. Can't the left EVER lose gracefully? Your candidate can't always win.
First, I thought Salish was one handsome guy! I would've been happy with him if Kirk wasn't available!
It's been a long time since I've seen the episode, but here's what I remember. Salish's father had been the Medicine Chief, so he was next in line for the position. But I vaguely remember Miramanee telling Kirk that his father died before he revealed the temple secret to Salish.
Apparently it was knowledge that was handed down. Perhaps the custom was that the Medicine Chief revealed it on his death bed. So I'm thinking that Salish's father died in an accident, something totally unexpected.
With Kirok gone, I think (just speculating) that the position would go back to Salish.
I really liked that episode, but Miramanee's death was just too convenient. Of course Kirk had to leave and she would've been heartbroken. I can't believe she suffered such intense injuries from having a few rocks thrown at her. Kirk was being pelted with rocks too! And he was just fine.
Modern medicine in the 23rd century couldn't save her? I've often thought that McCoy did the same thing to Miramanee that he did to Kirk in Amok Time, i.e., slipped her a "neural paralyzer" that simulated death.
That way Kirk could leave with a clear conscience. McCoy would have a private moment with Miramanee's father and give him the antidote.
When Miramanee came to she would "learn" that Kirok had to go back to the "strange lodge in the sky." She'd still be sad but it would've been something that she'd understand. Kirok was a type of god who had to return home. Just my imagination!!
Yes, a doctor or dentist would understand an emergency. In a real life situation, Jerry would have had a dentist on call to handle any emergencies while he was away. That actually happened to me years ago. I had an emergency and called my dentist. He was on vacation and his receptionist gave me the number of the dentist who was taking care of his patients while he was away.
In the case of Rob's emergency, Jerry understood. He even said as much. He said that Rob had no choice, it was an emergency. But the reason Rob felt guilty was because he allowed the other dentist to work on ANOTHER tooth. That tooth wasn't an emergency situation. He said, "I was sitting there with my big mouth open, so I let him drill away."
The humor came from Rob's guilt. It was irrational guilt as a lot of guilt often is, but I thought Dick van Dyke played it so well.
Jerry understood. You folks need to go back and rewatch the episode and pay attention to the dialogue. LOL
gbennett- I always thought Dick van Dyke's comedy was rooted in emotion. Most good comedy is. He was a huge fan of Stan Laurel. He modeled a lot of his comedy on him. He even found Stan Laurel's number in the phone book when he moved to Hollywood and called him. The comic agreed to meet him and they became friends.
I tried watching some Laurel and Hardy films when I was a kid. I never found them the least bit amusing. I always thought their schtick was so tiresome. Laurel messing up and Hardy yelling at him. The Laurel would cry.
Same goes for much of Steve Martin too. My cousin and her dad thought he was hilarious. I only found him mildly funny.
Humor is so subjective. If you don't connect with a comedian on an emotional level, a lot of their stuff won't be funny to you.
Miss Margo- I always thought The Redcoats are Coming was hilarious! But from what I have read, a lot of fans didn't care for it. Don't know why. However it wa a bit of a departure from what Carl Reiner wanted for the show. He mostly stayed away from anything trendy or topical. He didn't want to give the show a 'dated' look. Maybe he was thinking of the fute and syndication. lol
"It May Look Like a Walnut" was also one of the few shows that drew from current events, namely The Twilight Zone. But Carl Reiner may have known that would become a classic!
Humor is so subjective. You can't force someone to think that something is funny.
Interesting that you cite "All about Eavesdropping" as a favorite. I love that one too! Anything that involves a universal human trait, in this case curiosity, always hits home.
There were so many great lines.
Laura- We've eavesdropped this long, we can eave a drop longer.
And Rob during the charades game, did you ever play a game of charades like that? LOL
Rob: Stomp, stomp all over people, stab in the back, two face, malice accusory!! I've got it! On the Street Where You Live!
I thought this show addressed human nature in so many ways. The characters were lovable but had big flaws. I've always wondered what happened the day AFTER the eavesdropping incident. I know Rob and Laura apologized to their friends. But they ruined Buddy and Sally's evening too.
Do you think that the next day at the office Rob's co-workers asked, "Okay what the %$%% was THAT all about last night?" lol
I think Rob would have come clean and admitted the truth and the three of them would have written a funny sketch about eavesdropping for Alan Brady.
Laura WAS a bit whiny and demanding. Her jealousy was a bit hard to take at times. Her husband was in show biz, hardly a 9 to 5 job. He had to work late and he was often working with glamorous and beautiful movie stars. You'd think Laura would have trusted him more since he was totally devoted to her.
Mary Tyler Moore mentions this on one of the DVD extras. She said that Laura would go so crazy if Rob was in a room with another woman. I'd like to think that Laura matured and got over her silly jealousies.
Also Dick van Dyke and Mary Tyler Moore both admitted to having a big crushes on each other during the run of the show. But both were married and didn't act on them. Their attraction however, fairly jumped off the screen!
I loved their best friends Millie and Jerry. Jerry could be a jerk, true! In the first season episode when he teased Rob about writing a "bad show", Punch Thy Neighbor, he was so childish. But "The Ballad of the Betty Lou" is another of my favorites. Jerry also forgave Rob for seeing another dentist in "A Man's Teeth are Not His Own."
Millie just cracked me up, no matter what she said. I thought she was hilarious.
Thanks for that Wikipedia link. Very interesting! I bought a number of published fan fics years ago and it was fairly obvious that some of the authors inserted themselves into the story. Either Spock or Kirk fell in love with them.
But to be fair, they were well written and interesting stories. They didn't make the Mary Sue of the story all knowing and heroic, just a fan wish fulfillment.
I don't necessarily see it as a negative. Many professional authors say that they draw from their own personal experiences and often the hero in their novels is the "alter ego" of themselves. Mary Sues are a genre all their own, worthy of at least SOME respect, imo!
Just thought of another one- People are Alike All Over. That astronaut played by Roddy McDowall, Sam Conrad, was going to spend the rest of his life in a cage. Of course no rent or bills, lol, but still a depressing way to live.
Yesterday's Son, a good book. I may go search for my copy. It's been years since I read it.
Yes, Spock was very emotional in All Our Yesterday's but he wasn't grinning ear to ear. It was the real Spock only more primal and not so in control, his logic failed him.
In the spores episode, Leila Kalomi basically drugged Spock against his will to get him to show emotion. Not the greatest basis for a long lasting relationship! lol
Of course there were a few moments in "This Side of Paradise" that were funny. When Kirk is annoyed with Spock and asks him WHY didn't he answer his communicator, Spock says, "I didn't want to Jim."
Kirk is totally taken aback at his First Officer's behavior. He can't even think of a good reprimand at first.
I used to wonder what the deal with the spores was anyway!! According to Leila and the the expedition's leader, Sandoval, in exchange for inhabiting your body, the spores gave you perfect health. But it didn't seem to me that the spores actually got INTO Spock or anyone else for that matter! When they blew out of the plant, he was just showered with them. Maybe they just had a fine powdery surface that entered the body through the skin. (Yes, I overthink these things!!! lol)
From the way the colonists were acting, the title of the episode could've been- The Enterprise Finds an Opium Den in Space. ha!
"To Serve Man"- an even better title when you realize what it really means! lol
"A Hundred Yards Over the Rim" is another title I've always liked and "Spur of the Moment". I tend to favor the time travel episodes.
Some excellent episodes with boring titles- "The Hitchhiker" and another time travel episode "Back There."
I suppose all the titles can't be great ones. I read that Jerry Seinfeld insisted on simple titles for the episodes, e.g., The Pen, The Boyfriend, etc. H said that he didn't want the writers wasting a lot of time trying to come up with clever titles.
It's certainly not weird that you don't love it. I happen to love it but I don't get mad if someone doesn't. lol
There are shows that are considered classics or huge fan favorites and I never cared for them. For instance, I've never seen a single episode of Friends. I think I saw a few minutes a couple of times, but that's it. I tried watching it but could never see the appeal of some of the cast members.
When it comes to DvD Show, I LOVE the flashback episodes. I have the dvds and Carl Reiner and Dick van Dyke do commentary on some episodes. They said that the flashback episodes are their way of explaining Rob and Laura's backstory.
I've always thought the Army episodes were hilarious such as "Oh How We Met on the Night that We Danced" when Rob was instantly smitten with Laura and she couldn't stand him.
The wedding episode was hilarious for all the physical stuff that Dick van Dyke performed.
I love "Honeymoons are for the Lucky" if only for the scenes with Kathleen Freeman as the less than hospitable owner of the lodge where the Petries attempt to spend their honeymoon.
"Where did I come From" has a frantic Rob waiting out the last few anxious days before Ritchie was born. Hilarious. And "That's My Boy?" is such a classic. It's one of Dick van Dyke's favorite episodes.
Well, those are just some flashback episodes that I always enjoy. But if you don't love them, well it's not a requirement. lol