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Liberals/Democrats don't actually "hate" this movie


Someone asked in another thread why they do. I don't particularly think they do. Here's my theory:

I don't think that they hate it per say. You have to imagine that this specific issue that the film highlights is something that the left has been, for the last several years, swearing up and down is only a conspiracy theory and even going as far as ending friendships/relationships with people for talking about the issue and/or trying to bring discussion to the issue. They've been made to believe, by many online hiveminds like Reddit, that anyone that even as much as *mentions* the existence of child-trafficking is automatically some huge Trump supporting conspiracy nut. So for a film to be released that shows the reality of this dark issue, it breaks their worldview and in a sense forces them to re-evaluate what they've been thinking/how they've been treating so called "conspiracy theorists" for the last several years.

They've essentially been calling people "conspiracy theorists" in a deragatory way, and being hateful towards others who wanted to bring attention to this, and the release of this film indirectly proves that they've been brainwashed into defending slavery for the last several years. Obviously if you've been brainwashed into defending this type of slavery or swearing that it's all just a big conspiracy theory, you'd probably dislike this film's existence too. Not because of what it exposes, but because it shows what you've been defending all these years, and it makes you look bad for doing so and (I would hope) even feel bad for having downplayed the issue for so long.

Some people on the left are still in denial that they've essentially been abiding in allowing this slavery to continue by shutting down anyone trying to bring discussion to it, and therefor this movie's release is somewhat of a crossroads for them morally.

It's mere existence forces them to either double down and continue shutting down discussion of it by calling it a "white supremecy film" or Q-Anon: The Movie (and in turn continue to defend modern slavery), or admit they were wrong for the last 6 years an admit that this is a very real issue that needs to be addressed.

It's a lose-lose situation for them because the only option that allows them to hold the "moral high ground" is admitting they were wrong which can be hard to do for anyone. That's my theory as to why this movie is controversial to their side. It's causing their "moral superiority" to come to a screeching halt.

I am open to discussion/debate on this, if anyone on the left wants to share their opinion on this film, please do so. I'm curious.

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It's pretty simple really. Liberals hate it because conservatives love it. That's where we are as a nation. Tribalism is the undoing of our foundation.

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Correct. And it's a fascinating thing to see.

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Correction, Liberal insanity is the undoing of our nation.

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Liberals hate it. CNN hates it. MSNBC hates it. They hate anything that isn't woke and doesn't pander to some "minority". Just watch some of their insane ramblings about how evil it is (available on youtube) and how the entire thing is a Q-Anon conspiracy theory. I pray for their sake that the insane radical left never starts a war with the right because it will be over in a matter of days- if it would even last that long is up for debate.

Also getting a liberal to ever admit that they are wrong is an impossibility.

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I am on the left and loved this film.

Leftists are fully aware that child trafficking exists. I don’t know a single leftist that is not aware of child trafficking.

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Every person on the left that I've had discussions (or at least attempted to) about the situation was always met with how such claims have been "disproven time and time again" and that child-trafficking is a "dangerous" conspiracy theory that right-wingers are trying to spread. Maybe we come from different places, I'm in the USA and for many years you couldn't even bring up the subject on any platforms like Twitter or Reddit without getting shut-out immediately and downvoted or "fact checked" & shadowbanned.

I don't know if people literally forgot, that quickly, that these attempts to silence discussion of the issue happened for several years, or if people really just didn't know about it at the time and still don't.

I'm surprised though that you say people on the left know that it's a real issue, any attempt at discussing the issue with someone on the left (at least in the USA) has always (up until now) been met with hatred and the conversation being shut down immediately.

Regardless, it's nice to know that those days are over and it's becoming more accepted that this is a real issue. This can finally bring us together so that the issue can be tackled instead of pretending it's a conspiracy theory.

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I am curious as to your general position on certain things. I think that the leftists in general from the 1960's through the 1990's more often than not were generally a moral lot even though I did not agree with them on quite a number of things.

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Nobody has been saying that child sex trafficking is a conspiracy theory. Accusations that every liberal is or supports sex trafficking is a vile conspiracy theory.

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I don't know if you were around on the internet from 2017 to 2020 but literally anytime there was an attempt to shed light on the situation, it would get overshadowed/downvoted/etc and called a "disproven and baseless conspiracy theory" time and time again. I find it amazing that people really don't remember this at all. There were even Twitter "fact-checks" that would constantly say that such claims were disproven and is a "dangerous spread of misinformation" simply just for bringing up the fact that child-trafficking is a thing. At least that's how it was in the USA at the time, not sure if you're from a different country perhaps where these efforts to silence discussion of it didn't happen. But it was VERY prominent in the US.

I don't think anyone is claiming that the left "Supports" child trafficking, but the fact that they tried so hard for years to silence anyone that attempting to start a discussion about the issue certainly shows that they didn't help the issue either. Actions speak louder than words and by stomping any discussion of the issue, that in itself is an act of supporting child trafficking. Not an accusation just saying what it is.

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You are misremembering.

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Maybe, but it is a fact that some wokeys/leftists are trying to push the term MAP and to make sound like a normal thing that should be accepted and not vilified.

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I've never heard of that so maybe you are also mistemembering that. Or you are generalizing from a few social media posts which aren't as representative a you think they are

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Well, you should go out more ...

I guess you are ignorant, missremembering or you just deny facts and trying to gaslight people.


https://www.b4uact.org/know-the-facts/

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/minor-attracted_person

https://helpusdefend.com/?page_id=3012

It is a problem if the Scotland Police urges against the use of the term MAP, it means some organizations are trying ti push for it.

https://www.scotland.police.uk/what-s-happening/news/2022/december/statement-regarding-use-of-term-minor-attracted-person/

https://abc6onyourside.com/news/nation-world/high-school-lesson-calling-pedophiles-minor-attracted-persons-causes-concerns-backlash-criticism-maps-franklin-high-school-el-paso-independent-school-district-investigating

You should change your username to "zerocredibleinformation" or "bullshitbiasedinformation" or "shilfortheleft"

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Maybe I'm not fascinated by having sex with children as you seem to be.

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Not really, groomer.

You are fascinated with letting pedophiles have sex with children, otherwise you wouldn't deny the facts.

I'm fascinated with seeing groomers and pedophiles behind barr.

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What facts have I denied?

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"I'm fascinated with seeing groomers and pedophiles behind barr."

Was that a pun?

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Believe me, I am absolutely not misremembering.

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Freaking Democrats and liberals ruined the term conspiracy theory. They are so pretentious and annoying

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