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So let me understand...


Most of the human characters are portrayed by real actors, yet the group with the least opportunities to secure roles in films—the dwarfs—were turned into animation characters?! Instead of casting real dwarf actors, many of whom are undoubtedly talented, the filmmakers opted to animate these characters and sacrificing realism in the process and make it for me much more soulless. I don't know who is director but I already hate him.

This is even more absurd than having a main character named Snow WHITE portrayed by a Black actress or expecting us to believe that any objective magical mirror could deem Rachel Zegler more beautiful than Gal Gadot.

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I hate Peter Dinklage and everyone who listened to him.

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What Peter said about this issue?

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Okay now I understand:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfTDt9cV16w

Dylan Postl dwarf actor summary it nice: "Him being progressive is eliminating seven potential dream jobs from the dwarf acting community"

Peter is such an asshole

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Yeah originally they were played by humans. But they were fired after the Peter Dinklage comments.

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WOW, and to think I loved him on Game of Thrones 😡

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It’s hard to remember any movie with worse pre-release vibes than this one. And Disney seems to be just dragging it out which allows the negativity to accumulate.

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The original group of humans contained only one little person. They were a diverse group representing many ethnic types and at least two genders.

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Well that's just inappropriate.

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She isn't black, racist moron!
https://moviechat.org/nm10399505/Rachel-Zegler/66b82bfcfd96630a48ab8d16/Not-black-or-African-American

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Say someone is black is not racism.

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100%

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Come on, leftist morons accepted even Kamala Harris as black. Because blackwashing is so hip... 🙄

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So is pointing out a woman is a woman sexist in your world?

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There's been a discussion on Nerdrotic recently that talked about this very thing.

Does anyone remember this leaked photo? https://www.disneydining.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Adobe_Express_20230717_2205250_1-620x330.png

Gary has a theory that Disney had always planned on using CGI dwarves and basically led on anyone who first heard about the live-action movie and let them get their hopes up without actually saying anything. If you look at the picture, it looks as if Rachel is walking quite a distance away from the Seattle Coffee Shop rejects, despite supposedly talking to them. The theory goes that there was originally a different plotline going on when they were filming two years ago, where Snow White and her dwarf friends teamed up with a group of bandits (with the substitute for the prince as their leader) to fight back against the Evil Queen, and that scene was to show Rachel with the seven dwarfs added in later during post-production. It's possible Peter Dinklage's stupid diatribe gave the studio a lame excuse for something they had been planning on doing all along.

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Interesting information.

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That’s assuming Disney actually plans any of their crap lately.

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That photo looks like they paid one little person from central casting for the day, then told six DEI crew members to wear some old Renaissance Faire garb for a photo.

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I know! Everyone who has seen the photo says they look like they came from Seattle! And that doesn't even qualify for a Renfaire. It looks more like they sent them to a thrift shop and told them to grab anything that was colorful and would work in a LARPing session of Dungeons and Dragons.

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;D ;D ;D Perfect. And my Dinklage fatigue goes way back. His RL personality always seemed to fit his character in Elf when Farrell said, "He's an angry Elf!"

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This whole thing involving him makes me sad, because he did such a good job on "Game of Thrones" and was a hero to the dwarf acting community, as well as many dwarfs around the world, and then what does he do? He kicks out the ladder from under him 6 years later and ruin it for everyone. Talk about a creep.

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I’m glad no no real life dwarves will be forced to partake in this monstrosity

Just make all the actors cgi

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There’s no such thing as real life dwarves.

Even Dinklage is CGI.

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Just make a hand drawn animated version instead!

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I think in Lord of the Rings movie they just used actors of average height.

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True and I didn't like that at all.
In Peter Jackson's case, his decision was not, as far as I know, influenced by woke ideology or external pressure; however, I believe he made a mistake. Throughout the film, significant effort was required to find special camera angles to emphasize the height differences - and not every time they do a good job.

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What did you expect him to do, hire actual midgets?

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Yes

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The thing is that dwarves in fantasy are their own race. They not just short humans. I would think that how closely the actors resemble the race is more important than their actual heights since that can be handled in FX.

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They used forced perspective and blue screen. John Rhys Davies is over 6 feet tall.

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Actually, they mostly chose the actors in the LOTR trilogy based on how well they auditioned for the parts, and making sure they looked right, but there wasn't much they could do about the many of the actors' heights except with post-production. But they definitely put an effort into finding the right people, such as tall actors to play the elves, Nordic-looking people to play the people of Rohan, etc.

The problem with the Hobbits was, according to Tolkien's lore, the tallest adults are on average 3 feet tall. So the casting people had to get creative. For the Hobbits, they simply chose people who looked the part, and had to do a lot of movie magic tricks, such as using dwarf stand-ins for distance shots where you saw the Hobbits from behind, as well as having some actors stand on boxes while others were lower down on the sound stages. A few times, some of the actors playing elves had to stand on boxes or wear elevated shoes under their costumes.

There was even a really fun diagram they made online back in the day where they compared the lead actors' heights with their characters. It was particularly funny with John Rhys Davies, because he's a tall dude, but his character was less than 5 feet because he was a Middle-Earth Dwarf.

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Colombian.

Not black.

But still miscast.

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