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What a joke , an insult to MLB.

posted 8 years ago by Kranadon65
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Not just being unrealistic but the fact that it's more a feminist wet dream than anything else. I can't stand it every time a woman tries to compete in a man's sport that they will never have a chance in. Major League Baseball, National Football League, men's tennis, men's golf when are women just going to give it up because all they do it for is publicity and a feminist wet dream. this woman that's portraying a major league pitcher is tiny petite ,so blatantly obvious that she's throwing it about 30 miles an hour. If you were going to do something this ridiculous at least get somebody out there that's a female bodybuilder maybe can act her way out of a paper bag.

[–] joedan_m 8 years ago

I dunno, I think a woman could make it in the MLB. I feel like the show missed out on perfect opportunity to make her a complete allegory of Jackie Robinson and have her play second base. A lot of the scorn I see is related to her likely not being able to generate the velocity necessary to pitch at the major league level. Have her playing second base removes that notion, connects with Robinson and provides a much easier suspension of disbelief for sportsnerds. Having her pitch, however, is likely much easier from a production standpoint, so that's likely why they have her there.

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[–] edindenco-154-269285 8 years ago

She should have been a catcher. If I had a daughter i would try to encourage her to play that position as I believe that if a woman who set her goal to play MLB were to make it, this would be the most logical path to pursue. Being light and agile has advantages when jumping up and throwing out base stealers. Also women have an advantage as their body bends differently than men. they can bend over at a 90 degree ange with fully extended arms and stand straight up. Men can't. They fall over!

[–] Ithilfaen 8 years ago

She should have been a catcher. If I had a daughter i would try to encourage her to play that position as I believe that if a woman who set her goal to play MLB were to make it, this would be the most logical path to pursue.

That's a good point but she'd need to have serious batting skills to make it to the MLB as a catcher. I mean, to be the first women in the MLB. Pitching is the golden gate to the MLB if you don't have miraculous batting stats and you have something of a handicap. In this case, two X chromosomes.

Also women have an advantage as their body bends differently than men. they can bend over at a 90 degree ange with fully extended arms and stand straight up. Men can't. They fall over!

Thanks. Most people assume that the fact women are different from men physically is just a disadvantage. It is, if she tried to play like a man but does she have to, in order to be successful? Maybe not.

Also, it seems women's biology is an advantage for pitching

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/22/well/move/when-will-women-play-major-league-baseball-and-not-just-on-tv.html?_r=1

For every lie I unlearn I learn something new - Ani Difranco

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[–] blackmangopit 8 years ago

You don't need a fast arm to be a great ballplayer - accuracy is the key. One of the most feared pitchers in the 90's was Greg Maddux who's speed was in the low 80's. But that guy could put it anywhere he wanted in the strike zone. He's one of my favorite ballplayers for this very reason. If the character can put the ball over the plate, speed comes second. Slower pitchers need accuracy skills to make it to The Show.

[–] vegasf1 8 years ago

Greg Maddux's fastball was not in the low 80's. It was not just about accuracy, his 2 seamer had a lot of movement on it as well.

[–] rjrmemorabilia2 8 years ago

But there are plenty of Hall Of Famers and others pitcher who rarely threw past 95. Let's start with Carl Hubbell, the man who invented the screwball and Rip Sewell. Phil Niekro never had a fast ball, Don Sutton was lucky to hit 90 and so was Gaylord Perry. There's also Joe Niekro, Chris Candiotti, Tommy John, Tim Wakefield, Jim Kaat, Rick Reuschel and Wilbur Wood to name a few who rarely threw past 85.

[–] tcob4-387-998129 8 years ago

And again one of these morons who starts a post & either never check back on it or responds support his comment.

[–] bishop-69757 8 years ago

A woman would never make it in the MLB but that's ok because this is doing a different take on the underdog story.
One of my all time favorite movies is The Karate Kid from 84. Was it realistic Daniel winning at the end? Of course not but it was still great. I just started this show and I'm not seeing any annoying feminist message at this point.

[–] TMC-4 (20135) 8 years ago

https://www.datalounge.com/thread/18809098-pitch-on-fox-cancelled-after-one-season!-wow-what-a-shocker!!!

A poorly scripted show with a ridiculous premise.

It is highly unlikely that any woman would ever be competitive as a pitcher. Even if she had a brilliant screwball (the premise), she'd still have to have an arsenal of other pitches which require upper body strength and skill to do. Where would she have played MLB caliber baseball? What farm team would have taken her?

Even if we were to take someone like Serena Williams, most experts believe that she would not rank in the top 1000 among men. Even being modest, she herself said she would probably lose to John McEnroe if they played today who might on a good day break into the top 500 at age 56.

There is no way a woman would be a MLB competitive pitcher - it's just too preposterous to make good drama.

—Anonymous

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