For those who keep posting the dumb posts ''Were whites really racist''? etc etc
Yes, many black people were involved in society and important or high-level events (the A Bomb, planning the building of the Whitehouse grounds, etc), plus many inventions.
Just because Jim Crow-type history books don't tell you the full facts, doesn't mean you have the full stories? Duh
You seem very racist to me.
Take off the white pointy hate and let the hate out of your heart.
No. The smarter ones among us find stories like these fascinating. It's when the truth of who the real racists are being revealed is what pisses white liberals off.
share"Hidden Figures" is full of lies regarding the importance of the contributions of the three protagonists. They were not among the real innovators who did the heavy intellectual lifting. Johnson's papers required little more than undergraduate-level calculus and differential equations, and really involved the sort of computations any educated engineer could do. She wasn't even the first author on her most cited paper. This film pushes the lie that they were "mathematicians," which most obviously they weren't. For the most part they were number crunching functionaries. Anyway, speaking of not being able to handle the truth...
shareYou sound upset. It is just a movie based upon the book. Read the book, it is very educational. It goes into details about the computors (black and white) who contributed to the space program.
You sound upset at the fact that the three protagonists in this film were mere functionaries in the success of the USA's space program. They were number crunchers who didn't do any of the heavy intellectual work whatsoever. They weren't even "mathematicians." Calling them such is propaganda and a disservice to the true innovators. Does that truth bother you? If you think otherwise, cite any of the work by Johnson, Vaughn, or Jackson that qualifies as the work of "mathematicians."
Anyway, why shouldn't people be upset at historical revisionism for political purposes?
Yes they were mathematicians! Racists like you should be banned from MC.
shareCite one single work among the three of them that qualifies as the work of a typical mathematician, work that advances knowledge in the field of mathematics. This could include innovations in numerical methods, for example.
shareThe fact that you’re so worked up over the slightest suggestion that 3 black women helped get us into space just shows what a racist piece of shit you really are.
shareYeah, the movie takes considerable effort to make these people sound more important and involved than they actually are.So much of it requires you to suspend all disbelief and just roll with it because any amount of thought makes the story start to fall about.
shareI thought the movie was okay but I was disturbed by some of the racism that was in the movie. I thought the ladies were good role models for young BUT the racist incidents might stir up resentment in viewers. I looked it up and there were some significant inaccuracies. Most Hollywood movies are not historically accurate. The characters played by Costner, Parsons and Dunst were all fictional so that's pretty lame. The director fabricated a lot of the harassment scenes in the movie to show that racism existed back then.
https://www.historyvshollywood.com/reelfaces/hidden-figures/
The issue is, of course, when the movie tauts itself as a historical film and comes off as horribly inaccurate.
shareThe propaganda is strong with the three functionaries that this movie did a great job in misleading the public that they were mathematicians. They were number crunchers, mainly. I suppose they were very good at it, but they weren't particularly creative nor did they do any of the heavy lifting involved in the design of the rockets or any of the mathematical theory governing their stability (Johnson was the second author on her most cited paper; the lead author is basically forgotten and ignored, probably because he did the hard theoretical work). The degree to which their contributions have been exaggerated is remarkable. Check out this page, for example, that purports to list the top 10 most "legendary" American mathematicians: https://pantheon.world/profile/occupation/mathematician/country/united-states
Whoever created that page hasn't the slightest clue how to distinguish between self-identified physicists and mathematicians, much less the work Johnson, Jackson, and Vaughn actually did in their careers as NASA number crunchers. And the little blurbs describing them appears to have been written by a borderline illiterate ("She started as a computer at the segregated West Area Computing division in 1951."). Regardless, it's laughable that Katherine Johnson and Mary Jackson appear on any list including John Nash, Claude Shannon, and Norbert Wiener, among others (and why Jackson over Vaughn?). Anyone who knows even a little about physics and mathematics would have to admit this, even the terminally psychotic virtue signalers among them. Just goes to show how effective the propaganda has been.
You DO realize that there's surprisingly little historical truth in this movie? That the whole drama over having to run miles to the nearest "colored" women's bathroom was made up, that she just used the white women's bathroom in the building where she worked?
Which is kind of a shame. Because so much stuff was made up, and opportunity was missed to educate new generations about the humiliations and horrors of the Jim Crow South.
The racial stuff in the movie was sugar coated for the most part. Read the book. While Katherine Johnson did not bother seeking out a colored ladies room, other black women did. The book goes into detail about Mary Jackson's anger over the bathroom issue.
shareif anything, since blacks are such a minority & even then moreso.... well wouldn't the black ladies restroom be so underused that it's actually cleaner & in better shape than a white ladies?
i think it'd work out better for them
According to the book, almost everything in a place that had separate public facilities tended to be poorly maintained due to the added expense of have separate facilities.
Why do you think the black ladies room would be so underused? They had lots of black employees. They did not have a colored restroom in every building which one of the minor plot points in the film and the book.
How is a segregated workplace ever better? I'm fairly certain they suck.
For those who keep posting the dumb posts ''Were whites really racist''? etc etc
Yes, many black people were involved in society and important or high-level events (the A Bomb, planning the building of the Whitehouse grounds, etc), plus many inventions.
Just because Jim Crow-type history books don't tell you the full facts, doesn't mean you have the full stories? Duh
I really dont know what your getting at here, im gonna take a punt at:
"All the hundreds of years of slavery , pain , misery , oppression , torture , lynchings, segragetion and humiliation that the white man inflicted on blacks is all fine because at the end some of them got office jobs."
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