I agree with OP on almost everything here.
I remember sitting there about half way thinking "some of these scenes are dragging out unnecessarily long, and too many scenes are ending too quickly. Then at the end I REALLY felt that way. I get it, that's a lot of characters and storylines to tie off in 3 hours, but it feels like some of the time from good scenes was "stolen" by slower, more unnecessary scenes. Either this movies should have been 4 hours long, or we could have had less time of everyone standing around giving semi witty banter. This movie should have been all business. Thanos ruined the universe, time to AVENGE.
YES where the hell was my Hulk / Thanos fight scene???
What they did to Thor was criminal. Sure, have him give up on himself for a little while to show how devastated he is. But the entire movie he was a wasted character. Everybody else picked themselves up and got to action way before the God of Thunder. Not only that, but they never even made him not fat. I was expecting once he donned the hammer he was going to zap back into shape. Or his mother would do some quick magic and zap him back into shape. Or that he is a god and have some super fast metabolism that just a day of exercise would get him back into shape. SOMETHING.
Steve getting the hammer was both awesome and confusing. When he got it, I was like YESSS, and then my brain snapped back into place and I thought "did I miss a scene somewhere"? Why does Steve have the hammer? Did he call to it and I just missed the scene?
Yeah that "girl scene". Wtf was that forced bs?
I also agree, Bucky should have been the new Captain America. He was even standing in the scene off to the side like he was intentionally being snubbed at an awards show.
I'll add one of my own - Tony stark figuring out time travel in like 9 seconds. That's it? No more thought to it? No more navigating concepts and theory? Just, "computer, give me this model, flip it, and tell me if it's real". BOOM time travel. What?
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WhereIsRent (1080)
6 years ago
You see the hammer move on the ground and then it moves and flies off, being summoned by Steve. It’s then thrown at Thanos to save Thor from being killed and then goes flying back to Steve which is when we see the reveal that Steve threw the hammer.
Thor was depressed and a drunk. When you’re depressed you probably don’t think that anything you do matters and that you can’t change anything. It’s not until he talks to his mother and he summons Mjolnir that he realises he’s still worthy and he snaps out of it at that point.
When they get the stones he’s fully committed to being the one to reverse the snap with the gauntlet. It’s ultimately decided that Hulk is the strongest and should do it.
Thor has an awesome line as well right before the trio go to face Thanos ‘let’s kill him properly this time.’ He then goes off with the Guardians to look for more of his people, it’s a great continuation of the character.
I could understand being annoyed if this was his last film but clearly both Thor and Hulk aren’t done yet.
Also they did avenge, they killed Thanos in the first 20 minutes but they couldn’t move on that’s the whole point of the movie.
This movie is a time travel heist with a huge battle at the end. It’s a completely different movie to Infinity War and I loved it for it that reason. Without the comedy this movie could have gotten so dark, but come on that’s DC’s thing, we know that’s not Marvel’s thing even in our hero’s darkest moments.
The ‘girl power’ scene was a bit clumsy but it was brief and a nice celebration of the female MCU heroes. This is Pepper’s last film as well, it was good seeing her have a moment.
A fourth Thor film has already been pitched according to Tessa Thompson and Taika Waititi will most likely direct. This movie was always going to be ending the Infinity Saga and the stories of Steve and Tony, everything else was secondary.
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allseeingi (50)
6 years ago
Your entire post reads like paid damage control...
The hammer came to Steve too quickly without any indication it was even happening or going to happen.
Thor was "incapacitated" for far too long in this movie. Everyone is very well aware he is "depressed". Everyone else was also depressed in this movie.
I know hulk was decided he was the strongest. I watched the movie. The amazing thing about movies, directors and writers can choose a different path for characters. Like hulk getting another one on one fight AND THEN using the gauntlet after. Or some other configuration of events....
"A bit clumsy" is not the way to describe the "girl power" scene. Forced. Unnecessary. Distracting. Pandering. These are ways to describe it.
>Also they did avenge, they killed Thanos in the first 20 minutes but they couldn’t move on that’s the whole point of the movie.
It's not "avenging" if it was meaningless. I know what "the point" of the movie was. You didn't actually address my main points in anything I said, you just gave some sort of canned "everything is ok" response. I don't normally believe people are paid shills online, but come on, are you a paid shill for this movie doing damage control or what? That last line about the fourth Thor movie plug, you forgot to add when and where we can pre buy our tickets!!! LMAO!
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WhereIsRent (1080)
6 years ago
How much indication do you want? It's a fan service reveal moment to get the audience to cheer, it's supposed to be a moment we all probably knew was coming but didn't expect in that exact moment.
Tony wasn't depressed, he even talks about how fortunate he is compared to a lot of other people. Banner seemed at peace. Thor literally shuts himself out from the world and the mention of "Thanos" for him is even too painful. In Infinity War he thought he had nothing left to lose and even his revenge on Thanos didn't take the pain away and it drove him to alcoholism. If Tony had lost Pepper in the snap it might have been the same for him.
Yeah and you didn't like the path they chose and I'm trying to explain to you why I did. Hulk was scared of Thanos after Infinity War, embarrassed by his defeat. If Hulk went toe to toe with Thanos again and got his ass handed to him everyone would complain about how the character was nerfed. If he won easily everyone would complain that Thanos isn't a credible threat anymore and the villain is undermined.
That "girl power" scene is so brief though and there are other people in the audience that would get a kick out of seeing all the female heroes side by side. The whole film is about avenging, it's about responsibility and self-sacrifice and doing "whatever it takes" to win the day. Haha this movie doesn't need damage control, it'll make as much as Infinity War did easily, wish I was a paid shill for Disney though but unfortunately I work in a cinema and it's currently hell with this movie out. Sucks the film disappointed you, I know that feeling, The Last Jedi was the same for me, ruined Luke but that's a different discussion altogether haha.
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allseeingi (50)
6 years ago
>How much indication do you want?
What OP suggested is fine....
I personally would have liked to see just a little buildup to it. Like Steve sees the hammer, gets a serious look on his face, grabs it, and lifts it. Give it the significance it deserved. I disagree with you that everyone knew it was coming.
>Tony wasn't depressed
Tony CERTAINLY WAS depressed. He was just able to get over it faster because of his more fortunate circumstances. He lost Peter, and the fight with Thanos that left half the universe wiped out.
Hulk could have had another fight. Simple as that. You claiming that it's impossible for a creative way that could have been introduced is just flat out stupid.
The problem with the girl power scene is no the length of it, it's that it even happened at all. It's just politically charged nonsense inserted into the movie. Why didn't all the black characters have a charging scene? And then all the men? And then all the non earth people? It was just dumb and stuck out like a sore thumb.
I have absolutely no doubt this movie will do well at the box office, and I liked many parts of the movie, but there was too many things that were bad about it that I felt like adding to what OP said because I think he/she is right.
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