The next James Bond will either be a woman or Black
The ending hints at that.
shareIn case there is a Black James Bond, I can already see the left straw manning the conservative position by crying: "Racists angry that James Bond is Black". No darlings, that not what we have a problem with. We have a problem with the reasons WHY they chose a Black guy, not that they chose a Black guy. Had James Bond always been Black, like The Blade or The Shaft, nobody would have a problem with it.
shareWHY they chose a Black guy, not that they chose a Black guy
The problem is you have already decided why they chose a black guy.
No black guy can get a role on screen without you crying about agendas and all that shit.
What you dont seem to realise is that to overcome the old days of "only us whiteys on camera" the amount of black people has to go UP! to INCREASE .
people like you be like "we didnt have black people before! why now! its crazy!"
they just did it .
Then you'll start on like: "Theres no reason for that role to be black"
which just comes off sounding like
"he's not playing a slave or a criminal , so why is a black person allowed do play the role"
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let me guess your next response...
James Bond has always been white , why steal existing stuff , make newe black characters if you want
well that is still racist. you are still blinded by color.
James bond has changed other things.
his suits , his cars , even the color of his hair
and yet you dont get idiots going:
James bond has always had black hair
"You cant change his hair color now!
invent a new character id you want blonde hair"
what im saying is the color of his skin is as irrelevent as the color of his hair.
which i guess is gonna bring you back to
"yes , but its WHY they chose a black guy , not that they did"
Nonsense. If James Bond does indeed change races it will not be an Asian guy or Hispanic. He will be Black. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure out why are they replacing White characters with Black ones. It's for a political agenda and you know it.
I don't have a problem Black people being portrayed on the big screen. I never have. Stop straw manning my position. I only have a problem known characters changing race FOR POLTIICAL REASONS. If there was some practical reason a character had to be portrayed by a member of a different race I would understand. How can a White person NOT have a problem of White characters being changed FOR THE SAKE OF CHANGING THEM TO OTHER RACES? Would a Black person not have a problem of traditional Black characters like Shaft of The Blade being changed to Whites in accordance of some political/ideological trend?? Of course he would. But when that is happening to White people it's perfectly OK and we don't even have the right to complain.
You leftists always straw man the right's position. Just more proof of Jonathan Haid's research that the left DOES NOT UNDERSTAND the right. The right on the other hand understands the left.
Just like with that case of a below average looking Black woman "winning" miss Helsinki 2016. When people legitimately complained of racial preferences the left straw manned their position by saying "Racists angry that a Black woman won a beauty pageant". SHE DIDN'T WIN. She was handed the crown for being Black. She didn't look attractive at all and she "beat" dozens of other Finnish beauties because the judges and organizers wanted to virtue signal against racism. Just more proof of Black privilege. Imagine a miss Nigeria contest being won by an ugly White woman just because of her race and maybe you'll being to understand. If the latter really happened it would be a worldwide scandal, the left would cry of "racism" 24/7. But when the reverse happens, it's totally OK.
If the colour of his skin is irrelevant why are leftists pushing him to be Black? If the colour of someone's skin is irrelevant, why was there so much celebration when the first Black guy was elected president? Race is much more than skin colour and even the left admits that by pushing "diversity"
thats pretty much the exact reply i predicted.
with a few of the other usual cliches thrown in , like the Shaft thing
only have a problem known characters changing race FOR POLTIICAL REASONS.
the political reason is that these days blacks are allowed on the screen ,
also allowed at the front of the bus too!
i concede there may be cases of black privilige , or reveres racism.
but its not every time.
james bond turning black would not be a case of that.
the helsinki thing sounds like it was .
but beauty is very subjective.
Your argument is since Blacks were discriminated before, it's justified to discriminate against Whites today. It's OK to totally replace Whites because Blacks were once lacking. It's a dumb argument.
"the political reason is that these days blacks are allowed on the screen ,
also allowed at the front of the bus too!"
Who's denying Black people on the screen? What planet are you living in?? You still seem to be stuck in the 1960s.
And I have absolutely no idea how you differentiate the Miss Helsinki and Black James Bond. They are both done for ideological reasons. That girl didn't win because someone thought she was beautiful. Google her if you want to know what I mean.
"What you dont seem to realise is that to overcome the old days of "only us whiteys on camera" the amount of black people has to go UP! to INCREASE ."
WHAT??? This is the dumbest statement I have ever read. Who's talking about classic Hollywood?? Black people got their fair share of representation way back in the 1970s. What I oppose is wokness meaning the post 2015 stuff. I have no problem of Hollywood of 1970s, 80s, 90s, 2000s.
"The problem is you have already decided why they chose a black guy.
No black guy can get a role on screen without you crying about agendas and all that shit."
There it is. The lengths that people will go to twist every narrative possible into one that has something to do with woke culture is amazing. Where there's a will, there's a way.
Meanwhile, we're talking about people who are more than likely to be the type that have every privilege, who have no idea what real victimhood even smells like, but this is as close as they can get to it. Some guy in a movie was the bad guy, and they can cry victimhood like it has anything to do with them, or has any affect on their lives whatsoever. They're the real victims in all this, you see.
"No black guy can get a role on screen without you crying about agendas and all that shit."
That is complete bollocks. Name me one guy who complained that Shaft was Black or that Morpehus in The Matrix was Black. You are just too dumb on too unwilling to understand what this is about.
I would watch anything Denzel Washington is in. Even in his worst movies, the guy’s acting is completely consuming and believable. I agree with you, I don’t recall anyone ever saying his casting was agenda-driven.
shareI think you lack imagination. There is already a black female 007, so let's replace that 'or' with a 'and'.
That black woman is probably gay, so I am thinking a black gay woman, triple threats.
She also seemed to have very large behind and unathletic body. There were a couple of scenes where the waistline of her manly dress slacks were hiked up to her breasts like she was an old man trying to support a beer gut. If she’s the next 007, no one is going to pay $20 on Amazon Prime to watch it.
shareYou probably wouldn't, but the decision is likely based on screen tests of sample audience. Too early to say.
shareJames Bond will definitely not be a woman. The producers said so themselves.
shareWe know that, but Bond is dead (RIP) so unless Bond come back as a vampire I don't see how that is relevant.
shareThey will probably do a soft reboot and just begin a new movie in which Bond is still alive, and none of the events of the Craig era come into play. Franchises do this all the time. Batman, Spider-Man, Terminator, Halloween....
shareThen why kill Bond in the first place, none of events in Craig movies really has any lasting effect, other than the daughter in this movie, which is why Bond is dead.
I think they are leaving the door open to continue without Bond, at least that is the current plan.
They killed Bond in the Daniel Craig era to wrap up the story arc they created, specific to the Daniel Craig era. If you think about it, he was the young rookie in CR....and by Skyfall, he was the aging relic. At the end of Spectre, he retired. There was a start and an end to the world they created for Daniel Craig. Also, Craig wanted to go out with a grand exit, and asked to be killed off.
The worst thing the producers could do is move on from the very specific character of James...Bond. The BEST thing they could do to navigate this challenge is simply.....start the next movie as....business as usual (as if the Craig arc never happened).
As much as I would like to hope that what you and MarkDaniels says is what we will get, we're living in 200% concentrated Clown World, and I just don't see a proper, straight-white male being cast as the next James Bond.
It reminds me of what they sleazy, smarmy scumbag Neil Druckmann did with Uncharted, replacing Nathan at the end with his fugly looking daughter.
Even though Broccoli said they weren't going to race/gender-swap Bond, I can definitely see them both race and gender-swapping Bond, maybe even -- as another poster suggested above -- making it a fat, black lesbian.
Never put anything -- even the most absurd -- past the standards of Clown World.
It's relevant because Barbara Broccoli, the producer said Bond can be any color but he has to be male regardless and that women are far more interesting than just casting them in male roles. Hollywood should establish new roles specifically from women to portray and I completely agree with that.
shareI figure the next Bond should be THE most underused demographic in motion pictures …Siamese twins. James and Jack Bond.
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