Do you like the batcollar?
Nolan fixed the stiff-neck Batman but making a pencil-neck Batman as the result. The batcollar fixes both. I like it.
shareYeah it looks fine to me.
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MovieChat Forums > The Batman (2022) Discussion > Do you like the batcollar?
I didn't like it in the promotional stills I saw before the movie came out. Now that I've seen the film though, I think the batsuit looked pretty badass, collar and all.
shareI didn't even notice, so I guess it was a success lol
shareDidn't love or hate it. Batman has like 500 suits. Whatevs.
shareNot that many in live-action.
shareI guess I would be disappointed if he wore this same suit in all the movies. But I doubt that will happen.
shareBatman basically wore the same suit in The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises. That may also why TDKR felt underwhelming. Like they didn't put much effort in it.
shareThat movie was meant to depict a Batman who had been inactive for almost a decade, and thus it makes sense that he's using the same suit -- he hasn't needed or bothered to make any upgrades or changes.
shareYeah. It makes sense. But even having a modified suit still can be easily explained if the really want to.
It's a comicbook movie. As long as they say one or two lines about the changes made to the suit it will be fine. People won't shout "that totally doesn't make sense!" either.
I think having a new / fresh design outweights the lazy feel of using the same suit twice, regardless of the in-universe explanation is.
Actually, having a new design feels the opposite of "lazy." It strikes me as Nolan asking the serious question "what would Bruce Wayne be doing if this were real life?" and sticking logically to the answer, even if stylistically the artist in him would prefer to do something else.
Change just for the sake of change is not automatically a good thing. In fact I would argue that it's not good -- it suggests flightiness, fickleness, preoccupation with trendiness or newness. There's a reason the saying "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" is a thing.
It also makes sense for the character. Batman is not someone who does things just because. There is a practical reason for everything he does. Even the theatricality and deception serves a practical purpose -- to terrify and intimidate his enemies -- it's not just because it makes him look cooler. A practical man like him would not change things just for the sake of doing it. He'd have to have a good reason. And if he's walked away from being Batman for almost a decade, he doesn't have a good reason.
I don't think so. TDKR being weaker than TDK is a fact. And it happens for some reasons.
Comicbook movie audience just don't care too much about excuses. They want new exciting stuffs, bigger, better and more awesome. It's still an action movie after all. It's not an artsy fartsy flick.
But even if they really don't want to change the suit at least give the suit a NEW look, never before seen.
Maybe Batman is now more experienced and self-confident thus he wears less armor. The same exact suit, but less armored.
Or maybe he doesn't believe vigilantism as much as before, so he toned down the Bat theme. He'd remove the bat logo on his chest. He was sick and tired of being Batman, he wants out. Doesn't have to be explained in the movie. Just remove the logo and audience will come up with theories.
Or some of the pieces are broken and he doesn't have the spare parts because he has been inactive for so long. Maybe some pieces teared down or changed color from excessive usage.
Maybe he will use back support, a sleek exo-skeleton piece on his torso or legs (because of his injuries.)
Anything. Give me anything. As long as it's something new and different. The suit is part of Batman's quintessense. It should change / grow along with the character.
Maybe. If it was an intentional decision it was a poor one. I would have have Batman laying in his Bane prison sketching out Bane Buster Bat Suits with his blood on the walls.
shareI like it. Not only does it fix the problem of the pencil-neck silhouette, it makes sense that if the collar is made of a stiff, ballistic material, it would provide extra protection, especially against getting whacked in the base of the skull and neck with any sort of bludgeon.
shareYeah, seeing Batman with a pencil-neck bothers me a bit because Batman has been depicted with ultra-wide neck since so so long. Comics and cartoons exaggerated it even more!
It's almost as iconic as the bat ears and bat mouth hole.
I don't care for it.
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