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so was Homelander actually telling the truth?


Was the sex consensual?


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In his mind. Her's we don't know.

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I am kinda thinking that her subsequent choices confirm that it was consensual, but I wonder how it happened in the comics.


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Since the video of her gettin out from Homelander office i suspect could be consensual she was to calm, some people would say some rape victim are too much in shock to show any emotion inmediatly and to those i would respond this is a fictional history and everything that is show to us is product of a creative and narrative decision from the director and screenwritter in that scene the director at least put the seed of the doubt in us about what could happen in there, and dont forget Homelander say "she cum 3 times" and in any moment he talk about it like was a rapped and this guy is a monster but he knows what he is doing he just dont give a f so i dont think he is delusional about what happen in that office with butcher wife was conssensual

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pretty sure it was consensual.
the moment billy tells the story, i was like, how the hell he know he raped her? was he watching bye and lived afterwards?
if something this shows established is not everybody is one dimensional good or bad, so i had that thought, what if she just desired some hero D?
so i was not surpised no rape was shown on the video footage
she just left the office, a bit shaken, but who wouldn't after riding superhero D for 3 hours? :)

it was billy who made it rape, because he assumed she loves him deeply,she has got be forced to this.

and finally the biggest reveal was simply at the end.
when they met becca's reaction was totally not like:" oh no the man who raped me and ruined my life"
it was more like: o"h oh, im going to have some serious explanation to tell these guys"

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I would think that yes, it was - at least based on what we saw on screen.

If there would have been a rape would have been either shorter either HL would have left first the office.

And her reaction at the end was quite expressive, she was smiling at HL and gave a "wtf" look at Billy.

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Well i mean i doubt it was a situation where he just grabbed her and raped her while she was yelling and fighting, she was likely very afraid of him and consented to it even though she was not into it. So i think she consented to it and in Homelander's eyes it was consensual, but she only consented to it out of fear. So it was still rape.

And as for her looking happy to see Homelander and not Billy at the end, Homelander could kill her at any moment if she made him mad enough its no surprise she acts glad to see him. She likely really hates his guts but can't let him know it out of fear.

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I think if she was truly raped, though, she wouldn't have just disappeared from Billy's life like that. I don't see how that would have made sense.

But if she has another man's child, willingly - then yeah, I can understand how that would be the priority, and not having to explain anything to her husband.


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I think she disappeared out of Billy's life because she got pregnant, as the doctor said it was an accelerated pregnancy cause it was a super baby so she may have known she was pregnant that night it happened. Also the doctor likely made her disappear so Homelander wouldn't find out she was having his kid.

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If she was truly raped, she most likely would have wanted to abort the baby. Especially when it was likely to be a dangerous pregnancy.


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I dunno, with it being a super baby especially Homelander's maybe you can't kill it even as a fetus, i mean you can't kill Homelander and the kid seems to have the same powers as him.

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100% consensual as there was no rape warning like in the first episode.

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Well, there was also no sex shown.


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Exactly. Same situation. Implied rape in first ep with rape warning but nothing shown. No rape warning in this with nothing shown.

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I don't know why they bothered with a warning in the first ep either (considering it wasn't actually rape and nothing was shown either) - are the audiences really that delicate after Game of Thrones and Spartacus and stuff?


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Just look at the state of the media and all these "journalists" crying about the new CoD. The world is full of snowflakes now.

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CoD?


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Call of Duty (video game).

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I don't think it looks like Becca was crazy about Highlander and she didn't really seem like the type to go gaga over him either..
She seemed shellshocked coming out of that room ....so I'm going to go with she was coerced but Highlanders ego would never see it that way.

She disappeared to protect Butcher and to protect the child from Highlander and the whole crazy corporation..

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I think some parts of what the doctor said was true. He told Homelander the lie about her being dead to protect her and the child.
She on the other hand went into hiding, arranged by the doctor, in order to protect her and the baby and also to protect her husband. She might have thought that a jealous Homelander would kill her husband if she wanted to go back to Billy instead of him. So her only option was to disappear.

Somehow Homelander eventually found out the truth (probably by staring through walls) and now he decided to bring Billy there so that the wife will be forced to choose between the 2 of them etc... (soap opera plot ensues)

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no, they implied at the Christmas party that she was smitten by him, and he was loading her up with compliments. most likely she got in a situation (working alone with him) and he misinterpreted how far she wanted to go, then she was afraid to try to stop him

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I think it was consensual. Reason being is his interaction with Stillwell. In both encounters with her, he was almost like a submissive boy. He showed no tendency to be sexually aggressive or dominant. Dude is crazy, but I think he may have sexual insecurities. Just a guess.

And actually, I think Becca came on to him first.

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Good point there

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I think she was smitten with him, based on what little evidence we've seen so far.


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I don't think she was smitten. I think she was trying to stay alive. This fool could kill anyone! She's was trying to make sure she'd be on his good side in case the shit hit the fan. Men are weak for booty, so she thought it would be a good weapon to use. But to her dismay........

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This is not consistent with what you said previously.

Anyway, that is just my guess.


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What in the world are you talking about.

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I don't think he was submissive all the time, he was just weak for Stillwell because she was a dominant woman

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