https://www.indiewire.com/2021/09/dune-review-denis-villeneuve-1234660459/
Why am I not surprised.
They had early news about China banning girly men so they made this movie so can be seen there. I am happy also I won't have to sit around any of the limp wrist also when I go see this.
shareHere's a more positive one:
https://youtu.be/DqquKCvOxwA
Seems that the movie only covers the first half of the novel. It is a point that a lot of non-fans were not impressed with the first Lord of the Rings movie either.
But it does support my contention that Dune really should be a mini-series.
I loved Dune and all the sequels, but thematically they were a mess. I couldn't figure out if they were about environmentalism, religion, genetic experimentation, how women are evil, or a combination of all of those. (Who is playing Paul's sister in this adaptation by the way?) But the themes were not what captured me about the books. It was the awesome GIANT SANDWORMS. So as long as the sandworms are REALLY REALLY BIG, I think I'll be happy.
shareAlia's not even in it.
I don't agree that just because there are a lot of themes that it's a mess.
No need for "themes." A movie doesn't need to speak to current social issues. Just be true to the original story.
Lord of the rings comprises of 3 novels. There were no issues there.
This movie takes the first novel and splits it in 2.
A lot of critics didn't give Fellowship of the Ring a good review. No Oscar recognition for these films until the third one. And so on. Maybe you don't remember them, but there were definitely issues.
https://youtu.be/kcfjCjdiajg
The first LOTR was a massive hit. What are you talking about?
shareLord of the Rings was released 20 years ago. Back then, critics used to be really hard on pop-corn and fantasy movies in general. Critics used to be the gateway for CINEMA (caps intended). That wasn't a bad thing, btw, since it created a balance and a constructive conflict between quality and popularity.
Nowadays that's gone. Most critics just work to promote both the Official Woke Checkbox Agenda and Top Companies movies and shows.
Dune was made by Warner Bros, that doesn't seem to have too much power over them. If you check metacritic, Joker a 59, Suicide Squad a 40, SpiderMan Far From Home a 69 and Homecoming a 73, Godzilla vs Kong a 59, WW1984 a 60, Tenet a 74. I'm not saying those movies are good (Joker excepted), but they're underscored in comparison with other big companies like Disney. I'm not sure the problem lies in Warner Bros having less power, or being a bit less woke than Disney, Netflix and such, but something is obviously happening.
i'm agnostic on this - i've never read the books, i am tired of epic length movies, and i'm not excited for this film at all.
but i will add that i just hate david ehrlich. no other movie reviewer annoys me quite the way he does.
and, while some of the other reviews are mixed...some are really positive.
twitter reactions here:
https://twitter.com/search?q=dune+review&ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Esearch
'Denis Villeneuve's Dune is the best possible adaptation of the classic sci-fi novel.'
'Dune review – blockbuster cinema at its dizzying, dazzling best'
'Dune completely shook and stunned me – it's one of those films where once you've seen it, you can't quite see past it.'
currently it's at 85% with a 8.3 avg rating. that indicates that the people who like it really like it. but that's based on only 26 reviews so far.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/dune_2021?cmp=TWRT_Movie_Dune_Early
Twitter posts and RT votes can easily be shills.
sharemaybe, but the current rt reviews all are coming out of the screening of the film at the venice film festival.
you can always filter the rt results so they give you their 'top critics' only.
and who is at the Film Festival? Insiders that want the industry thrive once again. So many big budget films have failed recently and they would really like to see one actually turn a profit.
shareThis is an interesting statement: "i am tired of epic length movies"
I have not felt like we get many epic-length movies anymore. We get a lot of long moves that are like 2 1/2 hours. And we get a lot of "limited series" that are like 6 to 10 episodes and are more or less really long movies. But it seems we don't see much in the way of movies that are in that 4ish hour range that we used to see with films like Ben-Hur, Lawrence of Arabia, Cleopatra and Gone with the Wind.
once you get to 150 minutes, you're pushing against the limits of my standard attention span. but i have my own set of tolerance limits, & they're probably a good bit less than most people's i bet.
but i'll grant that isn't true hollywood epic length like the examples you gave.
ut it seems we don't see much in the way of movies that are in that 4ish hour range that we used to see with films like Ben-Hur, Lawrence of Arabia, Cleopatra and Gone with the Wind.
If Dune was woke and then it would be getting glowing reviews across the board. The fact that it’s getting a mixed bag suggests that it’s not especially woke.
It will be dull as ditchwater though, as one would expect after seeing Villeneuve’s Blade Runner.
Yeah of course it's going to suck and of course people will flock to see it because they are bored and marketing is a science, and yeah marketing will buy good reviews on RT.
shareThat is a very well written negative review. So i'm inclined to believe it.
shareIf Villenueve's track record is any indication, it will be a big budget, nice looking piece of crapola.
shareI sensed that it might not be a masterpiece when every article leading up to it release was talking about how “amazing” the film is and it’s “best sci-fi movie of modern times”
share"Hans Zimmer to fall back on the ethnographic wailing of his “Gladiator”-era scores. Few composers would have been able to match the Lynch version’s one-two punch of Brian Eno and Toto, but Zimmer just thumps around in the sand as if he wants the worms to eat us all."
Damn...this is what I feared from the last trailer.
Which shows the critics who write for Indiewire know nothing about music. I've been listening to the two released tracks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgzE2TeXCl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdtiYwSP9ko
And they're not a repetition of his ethnographic Gladiator style. There's some common elements, of course (it's the same composer after all), but this is much closer to Ennio Morricone during the 80s, with some 90s Ethnic New Age elements too. Let's remember that one of the first hits of Zimmer (Millennium theme, back in early 90s) was Ethnic New Age.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdtiYwSP9ko
Lynch's Dune was released during the 80s. I think Zimmer has based his soundtrack in the style of Italian ethnic soundtracks during 70s and 80s (with Morricone being the most widely known composer but not the only one) to pay a tribute to the old movie.
If you don't care for Zimmer's thumping, you might enjoy this rant:
https://blogs.nmz.de/badblog/2013/07/01/ich-hasse-hans-zimmer-eine-tirade/