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Wokeness Abound: Every female is more masculine than the men

posted 4 years ago by cyguration (3951)
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1. There are literally only TWO masculine men in the film, Dave Bautista and Omari Hardwick. Every other male (especially the white males) are either weak, stupid, or evil.

2. While Hardwick looks like a bona fide badass in the movie, the major problem is that he doesn't do anything badass in the movie at all. In fact, he's probably one of the most under-utilized characters in the film, especially after teasing him with his saw all throughout the intro sequence (he doesn't even use it when you most expect him to!)

3. Bautista, meanwhile, plays the troubled but resolute Scott Ward quite well. Some part of me thinks this role was originally written for The Rock but he turned it down. I think a large part this role wasn't suited for The Rock is due to the fact that this is not a Commando/Predator type role, and while Bautista plays it really well, he spends more time being sensitive/broken than a masculine action hero. In fact, Bautista only has two real action-oriented scenes (I don't count that awful helicopter fight as a real action scene), and neither are memorable.

4. All the women act like masculine lesbians.

5. The only really cool action scene is given to the one Mexican chick who gets betrayed by the obvious company man.

6. Why are all these veteran survivalists wearing t-shirts and not armor? This annoyed the crap out of me. Why not wear leather or cover up with protective gear? It just makes no sense. It's like they were inviting the zombies to bite them.

7. All the women turn out to be the real heroes (e.g., helicopter pilot, coyote, Bautista's daughter)

8. This movie had so much potential but then decided to throw it all away on woke stupidity. Not to mention that Bautista's daughter was horribly annoying and I hoped she would die instead of him.

9. Zack Snyder's Dawn of the Dead was way better; better effects, better action sequences, and even though the characters were average people they had BETTER action scenes than supposed hardened zombie-surviving veterans. Ridiculous.

10. I regret having watched this film. Stick with the 2004 Dawn of the Dead remake, which ironically is from the same director as this.

[–] moviechatterer (15583) 4 years ago

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[–] [deleted] 4 years ago

I actually though Chambers was well proportioned in her action scene. First, it was the slower zombies, she did most of her fighting with weapons, and kept failing and moving toward an exit point. That's pretty decent.

Likely wasn't a great character because they tried to make a coyote relatable (they're not). Her experience would give her enough edge to be as cautious and cunning as she was. She also used her femininity to get the better of chambers. So, I was fine with her.

Cruze was a trained soldier who showed more heart towards Bautista and her friends. She had training and perspective. I was cool with her and pissed at how the script killed her off just to add to the gore.

The only woke character was Kate because she was an insufferable prick who always thought she was right and caring when she actually got more people killed because of her righteous ego. Kate sucks.

Tight Notaro wasn't good, but that's because her character was written to be funny and the jokes didn't land. Her delivery was flat because she wasn't playing off the other actors. Her mechanical work was ridiculous considering there were no supplies to fix a helicopter. If you know anyone who works on these machines, you'll know that they need a lot of maintenance just to run regularly.

This movie was Terrible. But I would argue that the way they wrote Cummings and Martin was the worst when it came to characters.

[–] cyguration (3951) 4 years ago

I actually though Chambers was well proportioned in her action scene. First, it was the slower zombies, she did most of her fighting with weapons, and kept failing and moving toward an exit point. That's pretty decent.

That action sequence was the only good action sequence in the whole movie. My main issue was that it was given to this minor-female character who showed up every other male character (her Mexican boyfriend at the end gets taken down by just two zombies, whereas she fought high and low through a literal horde before she was taken down and only because company man screwed her over).

But what's more is that the only memorable action scene was given to a woman, while the other scenes were used to undermine the men, especially Hardwick's character who literally never used his buzzsaw throughout the actual movie (opening montage notwithstanding).

You make some good points, though, and if they were elements that happened in a vacuum I would be more than willing to chalk it up to the movie just being terrible all around. But the fact they let Bautista's daughter survive and tried painting her as some kind of hero was disgusting, as well as the fact that -- as you mentioned -- we were supposed to feel sorry for the Coyote, and that we were somehow supposed to hope the mother and her friends get saved was ridiculous. The only characters that could have been liked in the film were criminally underused (what was the point of showing the Mexican guy doing trick shots if he never used it when they needed him to?!?!)

[–] [deleted] 4 years ago

They really needed better writing.

[–] [deleted] 4 years ago

Posters screaming about "woke" in discussing this film are engaging in what's known as social contagion:

https://moviechat.org/tt0993840/Army-of-the-Dead/60abe3cd7a3b651435c20bd7/Posters-screaming-about-woke-in-discussing-this-film-are-engaging-in-whats-known-as-social-contagion

[–] cyguration (3951) 4 years ago

So you're defending cultivation theory by the Left-wing zeitgeist by saying that people pointing out that normal folk are being brainwashed to accept (white) men as second class citizens in media is a contagion as opposed to being a response to the contagion that you have allowed to infect yourself and your way of thinking?

Feel free to make any point about the movie not being woke, and it can easily be dismantled with simple facts and basic logic, something the Left teaches Millennials not to use otherwise they might wake up to the inculcation tactics.

[–] Alex (1503) 4 years ago

You're reaching very hard for fake woke points. There are none.

The movie sucked ass but there was nothing woke in here. All characters were equally stupid, bereft of any common sense or appropriate motivations. This is all on Hack's shittastic writing.

I dont think Hack Snydertard is even capable of woke pandering.

[–] cyguration (3951) 4 years ago

This is all on Hack's shittastic writing.

Snyder's own 2004 Dawn of the Dead proves you wrong. That was a fantastic film that suffered none of the faults this film does.

Again, no one has even addressed the point that the only good action scene in the entire film belonged to a woman.

No one has addressed the point that Omari Hardwick literally did nothing throughout the entire film and was never even used in a decent action sequence.

The one white male gang member that came with the Mexican YouTuber noped out because he was chicken but the Mexican chick didn't? Really?

You guys keep saying it's crappy writing, and that's true... it is crappy writing, but it's crappy writing because it's woke writing.

You honestly didn't notice that none of the guys were utilized in any cool action sequences and ALL of them were undermined by females?

As I said, go back and watch 2004's Dawn of the Dead. The men weren't undermined by ANY of the women in that film, even the really weak men.

I'm not reaching you're just really, really brainwashed.

[–] Alex (1503) 4 years ago

"Dawn of the Dead" (2004)
Director: Zack Snyder
Writers: George A. Romero, James Gunn (screenplay)

"Army of the Dead" (2021)
Director: Zack Snyder
Writers: Zack Snyder (story by), Zack Snyder (screenplay by)

Need I say more?

[–] cyguration (3951) 4 years ago

Need I say more?

Point taken about the writing... but that doesn't change the woke factors I brought out.

[–] e3e34ifj (1912) 4 years ago

i agree woman are is stupid and weak and that is just science logic!!!! they cannot do anything but make samwich and rap about wet ass p word. this movie would be SOOOOOO much better if you just replaced every woman with a buff alpha male. like dont even change the script or direction, just recast the shemales with men and it automatically becomes a 9/10 movie

wtf happened to zackary snider? the dude was an alpha male genius who directged batman and superman! now he is some woke libtard who probably likes creepy joe biden and krooked hillary?? boycott him

[–] maximmm (3335) 3 years ago

Umm - the film is so crappy that wokeness is the least of its problems.

[–] BourbonKing (5777) 3 years ago

So what?

You're just as "woke" as the very people you criticize. You fawn over idiots like Margorie Greene and Lauren Bobert who walk around with guns acting tough but wouldn't last 1 second in an actual shootout. You justify this fawning claiming that they're tougher than "Lib men" but it's nothing more than a conjecture and a fantasy, just like the tough women in this movie that bother you so much, except both Marg and Lauren are government officials who affect our livelihoods. This movie doesn't affect anything other than our passing curiousity.

[–] UFOclub1977 (34) 3 years ago

Do you also think ALIEN (1979) was woke and anti-male with who survived? Or "Star Wars" (1977) where Leia is not only ungrateful but insulting to all the men, and takes a man's gun away to shoot it herself?

[–] cyguration (3951) 3 years ago

Of course not.

Did you not read anything I wrote?

In Alien or even Aliens, how were the men undermined? Did the men do less than the women or handicapped themselves with stupidity?

In the original Star Wars, did the men act out of turn (or out of character) in order to give the women the spotlight?

As I said before, you can't address any of the points I made about the men being undermined in Army of the Dead without proving my point.

[–] UFOclub1977 (34) 3 years ago

Yes to both your questions. That's why the woman took charge or survived. Watch 'em again.

[–] cyguration (3951) 3 years ago

Yes to both your questions. That's why the woman took charge or survived. Watch 'em again.

Is this a troll post?

In the first Alien, Ripley survived because the xenomorph was killing her teammates while she was off elsewhere, which gave her time to get to the escape pod.

In the second film, Hicks survived and kept Ripley safe up until they got to the dropship that Bishop brought them. Even after getting sprayed with acid Hicks still lived to the end.

In the original Star Wars trilogy, Luke was just a farmer, so he performed about as well as you would expect him to. Han was a smuggler, and he did about as well as you would expect him to. I don't see how either were undermined by Leia.

In Army of the Dead, veteran male soldiers killed fewer zombies than a female Mexican gangbanger (lol?) and some random foreign coyote. Somehow a female gangbanger was also less afraid of zombies than a white male gangbanger. Somehow the female Mexican gangbanger was also more resilient and tougher than her male Mexican gangbanger counterpart.

There were never any scenes that ridiculous and eye-roll worthy in the original Star Wars or the first two Alien films.

[–] UFOclub1977 (34) 3 years ago

Bringing up the second Alien movie? Ripley made the men look like fools, even the experienced Army commanders.

[–] cyguration (3951) 3 years ago

Bringing up the second Alien movie? Ripley made the men look like fools, even the experienced Army commanders.

Because she knew what they were up against, they didn't.

Now feel free to address all the other points in the post.

[–] imatosser182 (339) 3 years ago

What experienced commanders? Gorman's INexperience was the main reason he failed at leading the mission.

It seems to be a common trait of wokeists to pick on old classics as a way to defend the current crock of shit. Not sure you ever saw Aliens though