Other movies that do a 180 half way through? - From Dusk Till Dawn (1996) Discussion

[–] Vampenguin 18 years ago

With a better ad campaign, Hostel could have given From Dusk Till Dawn a run for its money as the single greatest 180 turn of all time. It does turn pretty good, but it was totally expected.

Think about it for a sec: The first half of the movie is just a few guys trying to get high and get laid. If that was what they showed in the trailers, the whole torture stuff would have been totally unexpected and 100% more effective. But nooo, they had to make it look like some kind of Saw clone so everyone knew what was coming and wound up really disapointed because they did see any blood until half way through.

What a waste.

----------------------------------
Death is but a door, time is but a window...I will be back.

reply

[–] Jd_100 18 years ago

lol that woulda been funny as man if they done that with hostel.

Buy the ticket take the ride

reply

[–] Movie_Fan_948 18 years ago

I'd say THE SHINING is the first that comes to mind.

__________________
Everybody be cool.
YOU be cool.

reply

[–] 18 years ago

[deleted]

[–] REDUX_II 18 years ago

There were things about the first part of Predator that if taken away would of made it a great example. but I'd still count Predator in.

also
I kind of feel like Edward Scissorhands is a good example (kind of) but with one difference. Instead of two movies in one you have three.
At least in feel. It goes from a Comedy/Intense thriller/Romance sad story

reply

[–] JimD73 18 years ago

The only two so far that I really consider 180s are Predator and Million Dollar Baby (haven't seen Psycho, shoot me). The Dead Zone, i did read the book and watch the movie, but I can't remember for the life of me what makes the first half such a 180, it seems to blend well enough.

The 180 is sudden. Predator, bunch of marines in the forest, then BAM, theres an alien after a plot has already been established (though some shots made it less wtf, if I may use the term). Million Dollar Baby is a much better example, where the movie is Rocky-esque, and then bam, in under a minutes, it completely flips itself on its head, no longer about the boxing at all. FDTD is the reigning champ tho, as the vampires are just out of nowhere. Most sudden 180 ever. Hostel is a good example too, now that I think about it.

The 180 is not a plot twist, it is a new plot. The Usual Suspects is not a 180, neither is The Sixth Sense. Those are twists, changing how we would view it the second time through. A 180 discards almost everything relevant to what happened before, abandoning the old plot for no apparent reason and making a new one in under five minutes.

reply

[–] 18 years ago

[deleted]

[–] 18 years ago

[deleted]

[–] REDUX_II 18 years ago

for anyone who said Million Dollar Baby. In what part does it turn?

SPOILER!!!!!!!!!!!!

When she has the accident? or after that.

reply

[–] Mantas84 18 years ago

How the *beep* does Lawrence Of Arabia do a 180, it starts off as a biopic and ends as a biopic. The Crying Game has a nice twist though, it starts off as a political thriller then about 45 minutes into it turns int on a romance, then the big twist comes and it goes back to being a political thriller with more witty screenplay. By the way random horror movies that start off slow and then go into mayhem aren't doing 180's, they are just taking their time to get to the action. Though Hostel is a pretty good example.

reply

[–] REDUX_II 18 years ago

How about First Blood?

reply

[–] Movie_Fan_948 18 years ago

pretend there is no IMDB for a moment, what's Million Dollar Baby about?

__________________
Everybody be cool.
YOU be cool.

reply

[–] safreak77 18 years ago

I would say any horror movie does a 180, especially the old slasher movies from the 70s and 80s, most are about teens doing stupid things or partying all the time, then in the middle some psycho killer starts killing them. The sequels don't count.

I would definitely agree on whoever said Fight Club, more like 3 plots in one. starts out as a regular guy who simply cannot sleep and goes to crazy therapy sessions for kicks, then he meets Tyler Durden and they start fight club and beat the crap out of people, then comes SPOILERS when we find out he was Tyler Durden the whole time and everything from fight club to project mayhem to burning down his own appartment were started by him in the first place.

reply

[–] REDUX_II 18 years ago

What FightClub has is what's called in the industry as a "Flip"

reply

[–] NickNameNotAllowed-2 18 years ago

Spanglish did a 180. But that was only after i threw it out a window for sucking so bad.

reply

[–] VWaltz77 18 years ago

Hmm...

--

Neville Flynn: "I have had it with these motherf---in' snakes on this motherf---in' plane!"

reply

[–] NickNameNotAllowed-2 18 years ago

yep.

reply

[–] 18 years ago

[deleted]

[–] Werewolfy 18 years ago

I got one! Cemetery Man. I don't know what in the bloody damned weirdo hell was going on after halfway through the movie.

(Spoiler]

Suddenly everything is just surrealistic. To me it felt like the writer was out of ideas on the zombie concept so he just wrote random things down to make it random and surreal. I mean... DAMN! And the ending, the rest of the world doesn't exist? Okay whatever you say.

reply

[–] CuddleBunny909 10 years ago

You win

reply

[–] lifeless1 18 years ago

Deliverance, 28 Days Later, Shallow Grave, Night of the Hunter, Last House on the Left, Les Diabolique, American Werewolf in London, Slither (it changed a few times), Open Water, The Vanishing (the remake did too but in a bad way by changing the end to a slasher flick)

Long Live the New Flesh

reply

[–] sccrluvr320 18 years ago

Lucky Number Slevin.

Doesn't matter if you think the movie's crap - starts off as a case of mistaken identity then goes into some family revenge thing.

reply

[–] cosmoheschinese 18 years ago

So far this is the only one that classiffies as doing a 180,as someone else said earlier,all the rest are "twists"
Sleven not only does a 180,it goes backwards ,sideways,parallel,and I suck at geometry but I think somehow congruent!
No movie does it like "Dusk" though,totally caught me by surprise first time I watched it,in fact,I thought I was the only person it did that to.
Actually,just thought of another one. It sucked but Betrayed with Tom Berenger and Debra Winger.Whoa,does that one 180!

reply

[–] bigsofty 18 years ago

vanilla sky. :) i completely changes genres from a Love Story to a ____ _____ and it is pretty cool too

:):):)

reply

[–] govman101 18 years ago

Grindhouse. It goes from being a zombie movie to being a slasher movie. Whats up with that dude?

reply

[–] amikelhenry 18 years ago

The original 180 degree film; The Wizard of Oz.

reply

[–] Sporadic4222 18 years ago

I agree that most of these posts are more twists than 180s. True 180 movies usually have a definitive moment in which they flip (Shower scene in "Psycho", the arrival at the bar in "FDTD"). Which is why I'm surprised no one has mentioned the New Year's suicide in "Boogie Nights". The moment the movie hits the 80s it gets incredibly dark. Now, it's more of a tonal shift, and there are serious moments in the first half, and comedic ones in the second (You've got the touch!), but they're two defined halves.

reply

[–] nicman-2 18 years ago

Mullholland Drive.

But its Lynch, so it's ok.

-Nick-

reply

[–] ugureski 18 years ago

REPO MAN!!!!
It is so sad nobody mentioned it

reply

[–] oinbar 18 years ago

La Vita e Bella/Life is Beautiful.
I can't believe nobody's said this one yet.

Happy, happy italianess, and then BOOM! Touching Auswitz escape story.
Also, it begins like a story between Begnini and his wife, and it becomes one between him and his son.

reply

[–] ssny27 18 years ago

Instinct. Anthony Hopkins and Cuba Gooding Jr. Not a great movie but not too bad. Does kind of a 180 in the middle because you think it's a crime thriller about this psycho killer but it turns into...well no spoilers here.

reply

[–] chalkiec 18 years ago

Million dollar Baby is what first sprung to mind, then Lucky Number Slevin.

All Uwe Boll films aswell, they go from being crap to total crap.

reply

[–] govman101 18 years ago

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Killing Zoe.

reply

[–] marius_em 18 years ago

I think 180 means a total change of genre. So, here are my nominies:
Vanilla Sky - from romance to S.F. What a great movie! The actual pain it gives you for watching it at the begining, and the eleveting finish, when every piece fits in...
Fight Club - from adventure kinda movie to thriller.
I would also tend towards Identity, from crime/mistery film to psycho thriller... but it gave out some obvious hints during the action, so it wasn't that sudden of a change.
Psycho didn't surprise me that much.

reply

[–] notorious_souljah_17 15 years ago

British Movie Dog Soldiers is very similar to FDTD. It starts of as a group of soldiers doing a mission, you think its just normal war movie but then turns into a werewolfe movie and they have to fight to survive. pretty cool.

reply