How are two religions true?
How are both Christianity and Hinduism true in these movies? And also true are the UFO/Roswell/Ancient Astronaut/Crystal Skulls legends. It doesn't make sense to me.
shareI think it's a reflection of George Lucas' own beliefs, in which he's said that all religions are more or less true and simply acts as "containers of faith".
shareIt still doesn't really make sense though. For example, either the Christian God is real and therefore the only God or the Hindu gods are real and there are many of them. Either reincarnation is real or it isn't.
I don't know about Hinduism but the UFO/Roswell/Ancient Astronaut hypothesis of the fourth Indy movie doesn't fit in a Christian universe either in my opinion.
Not necessarily, only segments of the belief is confirmed. For example, IF Jesus was 100% confirmed to have lived, it doesn't mean he is the son of God, or that Buddha or Mohommed DIDN'T exist. The events of the 'Raiders of the Lost Ark' & ' The Last Crusade' (if real) would certainlt lend weight to the Christian faith, but wouldn't give certainty to tge whole story, or indeed renove the possibility of other Gods.
Let's say for example that there was a pantheon of Gods, with the Abrahamic God being one of many, but all people SAY he is the only one. The same events in this movie could take place AND Temple of Doom as well.
BTW, I myself am Christian, so do not say this as 'what I believe', but rather what could be in a fictional universe.
No but if you criticize Jesus his followers won't cut your head off like criticizing Mohammed.
shareThe Bible never actually claims that God is the only god. Quite the opposite, in fact. Remember in Egypt, when Moses turned his staff into a snake? The Egyptian high priests did the same. Then Moses's snake devoured all the other snakes, symbolising that the Hebrew god was more powerful than all the Egyptian gods put together. That's an acknowledgement that other gods exist. "Thou shalt have no other gods before me" is likewise an admission that other gods exist - but that the Hebrew god is the one the Hebrews should be concerned with.
shareExactly. There are other deities, or another theory is that the Hindu gods etc etc are the fallen angels worshiped as gods: baal, beelzebub, etc etc. Therefore Jehovah says He is the one TRUE God as opposed just another deity.
shareWorth noting that if we look at old testament cannon there were a lot of angels interfering in the mortal realm, and they could have easily be mistaken for lesser gods. Not to mention that the devil himself is a former angel, and likes to pretend being a god.
shareGood call, and something else worth noting, witch craft is also mentioned in the Old Testament, and its role within the supernatural realms.
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"The Bible never actually claims that God is the only god." This is patently false. Isaiah 44:6, Deuteronomy 4:35, 1 Kings 8:60.
"gods" with little g is a reference to pagan "gods" which were the inventions of those who rejected the only God.
The Bible does not suggest those gods are made up. Just the opposite, in fact. When Moses turns his staff into a snake, the Pharao's high priests scoff and say they can do the same. And they do. Then Moses's snake devours the snakes of the high priests. This to symbolise that the Hebrew god is stronger. Which means the Egyptian gods are weaker - but every bit as real.
I don't know why you talk about capitalisation, by the way. That's a modern thing. The Torah was written in Hebrew, which has no capitalisation.
The Pharaoh was using "magicians" presumably some type of Satanic witchcraft. The text says nothing about a "god" performing these acts. In any case, Satan only has some type of power because God allows him to.
"The Bible does not suggest those gods are made up." Oh really?
Did u just ignore the verses I sent you? "I am the first and the last, besides me there is no god".
1 Tim 2:5 "For there is one God..."
1 Cor 8:6 "Yet for us there is one God"
Isaiah 43:10 "Before me no god was formed, nor shall there be after me"
Jude 1:25 "To the only God, our Saviour..."
Isaiah 46:9 ".... I am God there is no other, there is none like me".
2 Sam 7:22 " There is no God besides you..."
Nowhere in scripture supports polytheism unless, you are guilty of the cherry-picking fallacy.
1. One god that counts
2. FOR US there is one god
3. BEFORE me, and AFTER me - meaning no god was made before I was made (not actually true, by the way, as Yahweh was one of several gods from the Canaanite pantheon), and no god will be my successor.
4. And earlier in the same chapter you'll see god specified as OUR only god. This, like Timothy, is also from the NT, where they ignore other religions a lot more than the OT does.
5. The Bible is here recording David's praise to God. I can point you to other bits of dialogue in the Bible which flatly contradicts this.
Also, bear in mind that these are translations you are dealing with. Sometimes they alter the meaning ever so slightly. For example, in the New International Version, Ex.22:28, it commands you not to blaspheme God. However, in the King James version, it says "Thou shalt not revile the gods". This is not an isolated incident: Luther, who translated the Bible from scratch using original sources, renders this sentence as "Den Göttern sollst du nicht fluchen". God, singular, is Gott in German. Plural is Götter, so this is quite deliberate. The 21st Century King James version makes a compromise, where it says "thou shalt not revile the judges". This is probably the best translation, because the next part of that verse is "nor curse the ruler of thy people". And Yahweh is never seen as chummy with other gods anywhere else in the Bible, so "judges" is possibly correct.
But the point is, when one is working off of translations, one should be very careful of taking things at face value.
And seeing as you have done some very careful cherry-picking yourself, I would be more careful levelling that accusation on others.
Matthew 13:11-14
shareYou mean to tell me there are people living today in the year 2023 who actually believe these stories about staffs turning into snakes was real?
shareIn Norway we have a little song that used to be taught to children when saying grace before a meal. Translated to English, it goes like this:
"O thou who feedest the smallest bird,
Bless our food, O God. Amen."
To my young ears, however - and I was far from the only one who misheard - it sounded more like this:
"O thou who eatest the smallest bird,
Bless our food, O God. Amen."
I think I was 15 or 16 before I realised what the words were actually supposed to be. My point in all this is that what we learn as children, no matter how nonsensical, can stick with us for a very long time unless we are taught that we're wrong. We don't believe in Santa Claus, because at some point our parents come clean and say "we fooled you". But they never come clean about God, and so the faithful by and large don't unlearn God. On the contrary, looking around they see their peers stuck with the same nonsensical beliefs that they never question, because "of course it's true. I've known it to be true all my life, and so has everyone around me."
And that's how people can believe in things like eg. the Israelites being led through the desert for 40 years to reach a destination 17 days' walk away.