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Not an origin film, just goes straight to Bruce Wayne already being Batman


We didn't have to sit through fifty minutes until he's Batman, it's up and running, we didn't have to see how he trained to be Batman it's left up to interpretation. We don't see his first outing, it's more he's been operating awhile as an urban legend but something causes him to be publicly known like Joker's reign of terror.

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I never cared for any of the Year One type Batman stories. Seeing him start out as just a man and being flawed and fallible takes the mystique out of the character. Its fine to show the childhood trauma of what made him into such a man. But the nuts and bolts of his development should be mysterious. We dont need to see him falling off a roof or how he got the Batmobile. It doesn't make him relatable. It makes him nothing special. Why's he so good at kicking ass? Oh, he traveled the world training with various masters. I mean, sure, I guess. It's just immediately less interesting.

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That's why it's such a good film. No bullshit backstory, no melodrama, no crappy voice. Just hits the ground running and dripping with atmosphere.

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Can tell a backstory in a flashback or TV coverage if you wanted.

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Agreed. I hate origin films.

Unfortunately, besides having incredible production design and soundtrack, this film suffers from an incredibly miscast short, skinny Keaton, mediocre action, and weak fight scenes with clumsy kicks and punches.

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Their take was Bruce Wayne was suppose to look like an everyman who blends in, as Bruce Wayne he shouldn't look or sound like a superhero what so ever but look like a gut who would need to dress up as a bat for effect, the look is secondary what's more important is the performance.

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It was an absolutely idiotic take.

Nolan’s boring ass trilogy did the same damn thing.

Batman isn’t an everyman.

He’s a freaking unstoppable terrifying force of nature.

Burton said he didn’t care about Batman, only the villains.

It’s obvious.

He also admitted the first film was boring.

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Fuck off

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It clearly shows his parents dying, so yes it is an origin story

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Parents dying in a flashback but it's not an origin story like Superman 78 or Batman Begins.

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Batman never really had an “origin story” the way Superman did. It’s literally just a couple panels showing him getting gud at science and becoming a bodybuilder, years after his parents die. Unlike the original Superman comics, where it shows Superman being sent as a baby on a rocket from krypton to the farm and raised by humans.

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Like Star Wars in 1977, we hit the ground running!

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