And what makes it worse is his loud, over-the-top acting. It just gets annoying and overkill. Too much Biff! Also, the way the future is portrayed looks too....comic book silly and cartoonish.
The original BTTF was brilliant. This one.....pretty bad. It takes all the good elements of the first movie and rehashes it all until it loses its charm.
The second one is about Biff. Michael J. Fox is the main character and has most of the screen time throughout the trilogy but they're not about him. The original is about George, this is about Biff, and the third is about Doc.
I'm not saying you're wrong to get annoyed that there's too much Biff, I'm just telling you how the three films were designed.
I agree with you about 2015 being too cartoonist and silly but Robert Zemeckis and Bob Gale wanted to go in the complete opposite direction of the dark futures in movies like Blade Runner. I still think they could've toned it down a bit though.
No way, Biff is an incredible character and it was great that Part II really made him into a proper villain. Tom Wilson’s performance at Young Biff, Trump Biff, Grampa Biff and Cyber Biff is extraordinary.
Part II is a 10/10 film and easily one of the greatest sequels ever made. 2015 was mindblowing back in 1989 and still looks dazzling. The darker turn with alternate 1985 gives the series some menace, and going back to 1955 to revisit the first film was a stroke of postmodernist genius.
The ending is also phenomenal - Doc gets zapped into god knows where and a mysterious figure emerges from the rain to give Marty a letter, which they have had sitting in the post office 70 years.
A perfect sequel to a perfect film.
LOL, the OP calling this a bad sequel has such shitty godawful tastes in movies. You want a bad sequel? Watch The Exorcist II or Silent Night, Deadly Night, Part 2. Both are BAD!
In all seriousness, OP is sooo wrong. BTTF2 is not a bad sequel. Hot Tub Time Machine 2 is.
Good point. Anyone who thinks BTTF Part II is a bad sequel and that Biff is the worst aspect has such absurdly terrible taste in movies that it would be no exaggeration to say that they are mentally ill.
The bully from 17 Again, now that was a piece of shit character and he doesn't even get his comeuppance. Sure, he gets humiliated in the school cafeteria, but later he shows up at a party and attacks the main character and then it cuts to the character waking up in bed as an adult again, WTF!? Talk about bad writing. Why do people even like that movie? It was an average, mediocre at best, teen comedy. Sorry Zac Efron fans, that movie sucked! It was badly written at parts and Tom Hanks' Big was a way better age swap film. I mean good grief!
There's a reason why jocks are no longer portrayed as bullies in movies and TV shows. They were fucking unbearable douchebags who got away with almost everything because they were in sports and getting them kicked out for bullying would make the high school football team look bad. Not even the typical mean girl cheerleaders were this fucking unbearable. The last time we had asshole jocks was in Glee, I believe. After that, the amount of asshole jocks gradually decreased and it's not hard to see why. They were shitty 1-dimensional stereotypes who were just assholes.
Biff Tannen and Flash Thomson and probably the only 2 jock bullies in the history of cinema and television that are actually bearable. The former is actually pretty funny and the latter becomes a much better person, later on in life.
The problem is that the movie breaks the form of being told almost entirely from Marty's perspective.
They usually have Marty creeping about in the background of the scenes involving Biff (old and young), but they turn into Biff scenes in a way that they don't in the original and the third movie.
Thomas Wilson does overact a bit in this, but that's all down to Zemeckis.
shareI agree with most of that. The popularity of Back to the Future II has always puzzled me a bit.
It's loud and obnoxious. The Trump parody / It's a Wonderful Life stuff is heavy-handed. The repeated scenes become tiresome. It has so much exposition, it becomes insulting to the audience's intelligence. WE HAVE TO SHOUT SO THE STUPIDEST PERSON IN THE ROOM CAN UNDERSTAND THE PLOT.
The first act is a mess because they'd written themselves into a corner at the end of the first part and didn't really know what to do with it. ('Let's put Jennifer to sleep to get that character out of the film as quickly as possible.')
And I don't like Michael J. Fox and Tom Wilson playing their own family members. Why does Marty's dad look like Crispin Glover when everyone other man in the McFly line going back to the 1800s looks like Michael J. Fox? Also 'Nobody calls me chicken' is such a horrible plot contrivance...
Never liked the film. The hoverboard is cool though.
Wow, people are getting worse over time. Like no joke, people just have no love for almost anything, anymore. We live in such an awful echochamber society where no one can be happy, anymore. Wasn't even this bad over a decade ago. It started with this horrible decade and people just find a reason to bitch and whine about anything. Now it's the classics being shit on. Cry me a fucking river! Christ almighty!
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Oh, I have love for lots of things. Just not Back to the Future, Part II. And I've never liked the film. It didn't start in the last decade or because I live in an 'echo chamber'. Disliked it all using my own brain.
You'll be happy to learn that my disliking the film doesn't prevent you from liking it though. People -- as I'm sure you'll be aware -- have different tastes. And the world keeps spinning around just fine.
Its really bad! Like Seinfeld gets hate when in the 90s and 2000s, everyone loved it. It's like a damn disease and it's called "I hate everything" syndrome.
In the younger internet days of the 2000s, nobody would complain this bad! This decade alone made it worse! Classic cinema and television keeps getting shat on by either the new generations or something is going on that I don't know about. Why do people bitch and complain 24/7 when back in 2005-2015, they were fine? Back then "Nah, this isn't for me", nowadays it's "This isn't for me, therefore it's awful".
Yeah, while I don’t dislike this sequel as much as you do, I agree with your points - especially regarding Biff.
With an OTT character like Biff, a little goes a long way. In the original he serves as an obstacle on the side and only shows up where he needs to.
Here, he’s pretty much overplayed.
Could’ve been worse though, imagine if it was all about Griff?
That character was one of the lowest points of Part II for me. He’s supposed to be a more formidable and intimidating version of Biff but just comes off as more cartoonish and parody-esque than anything else.
At least he was only present for a few minutes…