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There’s a lot of bitter people here who hate her success.


The biggest solo act since MJ and Madonna.

She is the Time person of the year. You will never be the person of your town for a day.
I'd be bitter too if i was you.

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You know who else was Time Person of the Year?

Hitler.

Or so the Germans would have us believe...

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Yes he was. The title goes to the biggest most talked about person of the year either good or bad.

Clearly Swift did it the good way.

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Not all that clear to me.

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She had an immensely successful year for her own music and mostly stayed out of big dramas. She helped cinemas in a big way with her concert movie. That is a net positive.

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I mean, she isn't responsible for mass murder of millions of people... so there's that.

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Should've gone to specsavers.

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Some right-wing jackwad here could definitely shoot up children at a nearby elementary school.

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Ban the guns.

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No

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That's lame. It really has nothing to do with age. Some of us just don't like pop pap. I didn't like pop pap when I was 20. Never liked Michael Jackson. I don't like pop pap now.

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A lot of her music is not pop though. Her first album is country. Folklore and Evermore are alternative. The Red album has many rock-leaning tracks. If someone actually sits down to explore her music, they will find songs that they love.

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Okay, suggest a good alternative rock song by Swift.

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They never said alternative rock. Learn to read.

Pretty much sums up my original post.

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Wikipedia: "Alternative rock (also known as alternative music, alt-rock or simply alternative) is a category of rock music that evolved from the independent music underground of the 1970s."

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Everyone knows that. The person never said she did alternate rock.

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They're synonyms.

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Don't get the sheep?

But I googled "most alternative Taylor Swift song". And I got Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/TaylorSwift/comments/prb2r2/what_do_you_guys_think_are_the_most_alternative/

Many said this song "Closure":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIFnKqIeEdY

Lol. Nah, It's pap.

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Ah, they were supposed to be crickets. As in, nobody's going to provide any great alternative rockers by Swift.

Thanks for doing the hard work so no-one else has to...

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Those are crickets? Damn, we need an emoji guide.

I'll be honest and admit I've never listened to a Taylor Swift song for longer than 30 seconds. I've tried to see what people see in her. But I just don't get it.

Someone compared her to Madonna. I'm not a big Madonna fan. But Madonna experiments and comes up with different styles. Sorry, Taylor Swift is just pap. There's no other word for it.

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I don't know any, but I do know some people cover her "Blank Space" song with a rock version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czb_CZfWko8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXHiLPUgr8I

They did the same with Justin Bieber's "Sorry": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6P5IMJiyrg

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"Folklore and Evermore are alternative" How are you defining alternative?

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Why the hell are you on Taylor Swift's board if you don't like "pop pap".

Hypocrite proved my point.

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So only your fellow doting Swift fans should be here? What a fragile mind.

How about providing an argument as to how the responders have proven your point?

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You have proved my original post, you are here to bash her and you don't like that somebody has called you out.

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Argument?

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Why are you on here if you are not a fan?

I have no idea what you like and i would not go there to talk crap about it.

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When her name pop's up on Trending, I take a look at the board and I gave my opinion. What's hypocritical about that?

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There is no hypocrisy, only those that like to either troll, hate watch to complain, or have nothing better to do.

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[–] JBran (1540) 7 hours ago

Why the hell are you on Taylor Swift's board if you don't like "pop pap".

Hypocrite proved my point.

They're on here because you basically insulted anyone who didn't like her music in the opening of this thread citing "You will never be the person of your town" comment which basically instigated this and the rest is History..

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I don't care about Swift's music but she does have nice gams!

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Lame thread. People can dislike someone's work without being "bitter" or "hating" the person. Ironically it's the OP who's displaying negative emotions and lashing out at people.

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I'm certainly not a fan of hers and I'm certainly not a fan of that genre in general.

But OP does have a point. Many people here have gone out of their way to create topics on this site to trash her music, present company included. Why? That does come off as bitter.

I just ignore her music and move on. I have my own music collection to listen to and im in control of my own spotify and Im in control of my own dial in my own car. I really don't care that people like her music, people enjoy what they enjoy.

And you can dislike her music without feeling the need to come to a movie chat message board to announce your displeasure...
Unless you're bitter and/or hate her.

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Yeeeaaahhh that's kinda what people do on message boards. They say what they do and do not like. 🙄

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Indeed that's what people do. Never said they didn't. Never said they couldn't.

But do you deny that a person sharing their opinions can come off certain ways, be it "fanboy/fangirl" "obsessive"....
Or "bitter?

Denying so is fucking silly. It would be like making conversation with a stranger and they bring up how much they dislike somebody's music, randomly and without any prompting. It's going to come off as bitter. Not merely "Well, here's my opinion."

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This isn't a Taylor Swift fanboard. It's a discussion board. People can post what they want as long as it's within the rules. If you don't like it, go and post on a TS fan forum.

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I never said they couldn't.
I never implied they couldn't.
I never said they shouldn't.

I simply said coming here to shit on her or her music does indeed come off as bitter or hater. Which it does.

My only point is people go out of their way to express how much they despise her, her music, or her press....and then be like "what do you mean I sound bitter?" LMAO

Fucking read, numbnuts

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you sound bitter

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Yes, I'm absolutely bitter about people on the internet who completely misinterpret what I say because they suck at comprehending words. Why wouldn't I be?

I hate those kinds of idiots....its has nothing to do with music preferences or what artist is getting whatever kind of attention.

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being bitter doesn't mean you have to be douchy though.

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Why not? My first response to this was completely normal, reasonable, respectful.

Go back and read it again.

Being normal and reasonable clearly didn't work. It went that way because in order to save face, two people intentionally misconstrued what I said, so then thats what they deserve in turn.

With lots of these people here, "douchebag" is the only language they know or are capable of comprehending.

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And since youve taken it upon yourself insert yourself into an exchange that had nothing to do with you, go back and read the thread and tell me where I have been incorrect in anything I've said. And go back and read Flickers response and tell me WTF that has to do with ANYTHING I said.
If not, go ahead and have several seats.

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If you think this diatribe isn't coming across as bitter and douchy, I've got bad news for you...

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Jesus fucking christ, you have a reading problem too.🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Is it fun being such a moron? You all seem to enjoy it

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very bitter and douchy. You're really amping it up.

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Just trying to match the level of stupidity I keep encountering here. It's difficult. You guys are like, light-speed stupid.

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Generally, if a group of people are saying one thing, and an individual is saying they are all wrong, it's usually the other way around. 🤷‍♂️

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That's your stupidity talking.

Show me at any part in this discussion where I was incorrect. The rest is you guys not reading what I said. For real, look at it.

I'm talking to a bunch of skimmers.

That's on you guys, not me. You guys are just teamed up because of your shared disdain for Swift.

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I don't share disain for swift.I haven't even mentioned her. You're deflecting because you don't want to admit you're acting bitter and douchy, nothing more.

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I literally admitted I was being bitter because morons like you intentionally misconstrued what I said.

Jesus fucking christ you're an
Idiot.

Are you actually stupid (and not just as in insult), but do you have an actual mental disorder? Do you have a resetting short term memory? Do you understand words????

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And yet, you STILL arent able to point out anything that I said was incorrect.... because you can't

Game set match. Thanks for playing

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When did I ever say you were incorrect about something? Are you ok, because you seem to be having delusions. Possibly a symptom of being bitter and douchy?

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"Generally, if a group of people are saying one thing, and an individual is saying they are all wrong, it's usually the other way around. 🤷‍♂️"

So WTF are you taking about here?


Fucking Idiot 😆😆😆😆

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man, why are you so bitter and douchy. You're a bit of a fuckwad too. You're doing great buddy. Keep up the bitterness.

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Again, as stated many many times, I have to keep dealing with fucking idiots like you.

You haven't been able to address a single one of my fair questions I asked you. And your last reply is basically "Yeah well.... keep being bitter, so there!"
You were thoroughly owned, but not that it was that difficult.
And thanks for the permission, I will keep going!

https://youtu.be/_asNhzXq72w?feature=shared

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At this point, I'm going with you have a memory loss problem.... I'll give you the benefit of the doubt

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At this point, you've demonstrated that your a giant douchebag that is severely lacking the abilty to self analyze you're own behavior. You've ranted and flown off the handle in a ridiculous way over a completely meaningless conversation. I don't have any point or topic I'm trying to be victorious in, I'm simply trolling a childish person, and have been for some time. You keep coming back so worked up that you need double posts to get your supposed point across because you can't compose yourself enough to do it the first time. Get a life tool.🤣

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Look who's talking!

You jumped into a conversation that had nothing to do with you. Nobody invited you.

The meaningless conversation is completely on you! You just HAD to put your two cents in, which ultimately was worth less than nothing. You even ADMITTED you have nothing to do with the actual topic on hand!!!! YOU fucking failed here🤣

How do you not realize that???

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And don't get me started on that bullshit about "keep coming back here"

You realize every time I do is in response to you.... meaning YOU'RE the one that keeps coming back here. Now you want to act like you're innocent in that? Give me a fucking break🤣🤣🤣
You didn't think that through, did you? How typical of a fucking idiot.

Fucking hypocrite 🤣🤣🤣

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Two replies again. Maybe if you settled down, you could have a tantrum in just one post.Jesus, you really are a douchebag. You continue to eat my shit, even after I flat out said i was trolling you for most of this time, once I saw what a tool you were. Its kind of sad and pathetic really. I eagerly await your multiple replies of pouting nonsense.

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It's not my fault you keep coming back for double punishment 🤣

Think about it... your replies have been reduced to "Well... you post twice! So there!"🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Douchebagsayswhat?

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Wait... you just posted twice🤣🤣🤣 dumbass hypocrite

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Of course I keep coming back. I've openly admitted I'm trolling you. Being smart isn't one of your strengths, is it son?

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No. Just because you say you're trolling now doesnt make it true.

It's really the only thing left you thought you could say to try and salvage this to save face. It's pretty obvious.

You failed again! Thanks for playing!🤣🤣🤣🤣

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douchebagsayswhat?

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Haha you said it!

You retard

https://youtu.be/_asNhzXq72w?feature=shared

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douchebagsayswhat?

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Hehe you said it again !

Fucking retard

https://youtu.be/_asNhzXq72w?feature=shared

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douchebagsayswhat?

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Retards who are gay for Biden say that.
🤣🤣🤣🤣

Whoops I guess your secret is out...and you're loud and proud. Say it again for the people in the back!

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douchebagsayswhat?

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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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douchebagsayswhat?

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Yet you are here on Taylor Swift's board for some reason defending your dislike.

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This is what you spent Saturday night doing is berating anyone, middle aged men specifically, for not liking Taylor Swift?? Really??

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"Taylor Swift?? Really??"

Are you sure you don't know the OP?? 🐭​

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I don't know who the OP is, no..

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Na klar. ☺

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All the oldies have come out of the woodwork, was a good night.

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"Middle-aged"? "Old"? Make up your mind who it is "hates" your princess.

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You're on her board for so e reason. If it wasn't to be a fan it was to hate her.

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The biggest solo act since MJ and Madonna? That's debatable. Adele has released two albums that have each sold over 20 million copies worldwide. None of Taylor's albums have done this. If Adele wanted to do a stadium tour, she would. She hates touring, which is why Vegas suits her.

Many TS fans have a big problem with people who don't like her. They take even the tiniest bit of criticism personally. It's bizarre, even more so when it's middle-aged women who morph back into their teenage selves, acting protective of their favourite pop star. It's just pop music. TS isn't curing cancer. Simmer down a little. I don't recall Justin Bieber fans getting this bent out of shape when people flung criticism at him non-stop when he was younger. Many TS fans seem a bit emotionally unbalanced.

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How "big" or "popular" isn't limited to album sales. For example, one hit wonders can outsell more popular or well-known artists. Album sales are just a part of the equation.

At least here in the US (just making an assumption you're not in US based on spelling) Swift is MOST DEFINITELY in the pop culture zeitgeist more than Adele ever was. And even though Adele chooses to not tour, that MOST DEFINITELY puts Swift in the advantage of popularity. Of course it does, otherwise why would you bring it up? That's just more of a self-fulfilling prophecy on Adeles part.

Again, I'm not a fan of either of these artists. But just as an outside observer in the US, I would bet any random poll of regular people would put Swift miles ahead of Adele in popularity, reach, press and affect in pop culture. Or kilometers, pick one.

And side note, based on your number of posts to this site, I clicked your profile because I made an assumption that you're relatively new here...which I was wrong.
But what I do find interesting is I found that as of this moment, quite literally 30% of your posts at moviechat is about Taylor Swift.

Make of that what you will.

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You'd be bitter if you were someone who will never be the person of their town for a day?
You are that person.

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I am not bitter unlike yourself.

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Singling out an entire group of people and calling them bitter just because they don't like something that you do is pretty bitter on your part. I hope you enjoyed a lonely Saturday night of bashing your elders. Sounds like you have many more to come...

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There's a difference between not liking something popular and actively making posts against that person.

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I don't know man, you sound pretty put out if someone doesn't care for this broad??

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Yet you are here on her board.

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And I'm entitled to be since this is a message forum, wouldn't you say?? I'm not the one sitting here putting the woman down and when someone has constructive criticism over her, you lose your mind..

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I was simply using the logic of your comment to show that you admitted of being bitter, but obviously it went over your head. Try again.

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But i’m not, i’m happy that she is doing great.

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You're bitter cause some people dont like her. Why else make your post?

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To show how bitter people are.

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Why do you care?

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