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What world do the sheep live in?

posted 2 years ago by [deleted]
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How can anybody with more than a single-digit IQ look at the video and not see self-defense? What planet are the sheep living on???

[–] greentimemusic (1069) 2 years ago

Serious question for ya. If you go over to your neighbors house carrying a gun and you just walk in and they shoot you ... Can you claim self defense?

[–] kwestmo (4385) 2 years ago

Not the same situation at all. Bad attempt at deflection/analogy/channeling Louis CK/whatever.

[–] greentimemusic (1069) 2 years ago

I asked you a very simple question. Please answer. Quit deflecting.

[–] kwestmo (4385) 2 years ago

No, I couldn't claim self-defense because I didn't shoot anyone; I got shot. My neighbor might make that claim. However, wheter it was self defense or not, that would be determined in a trial .

[–] greentimemusic (1069) 2 years ago

Ok but let's say you shot the neighbor (and killed them) as well. Could you claim it then?

[–] kwestmo (4385) 2 years ago

That was not your question. I answered your silly question. Now go away.

[–] asom (6824) 2 years ago

Your question DOESN'T make any sense.

So if I go in my neighbor house carrying a gun and he shots me ... can I clam self defense?

Well, HE shot me, not the other way around, so how can I claim self defense if I WASN'T the one doing the shooting???

[–] greentimemusic (1069) 2 years ago

Well it's a very simple question and it's not that much out of the realm of possibility. I'm just asking if you were to walk into your neighbors home with a gun and get shot by your neighbor can you claim self defense? I mean you got shot by someone so can't you defend yourself?

[–] asom (6824) 2 years ago

Still don't understand:

You missed one important aspect: do I return fire or not?

If I don't (and most likely I will not because I know my neighbor and I would shout "dude, it's me") but anyway I wouldn't walk unannounced in my neighbor's house, gun or no gun (or in anyone's house for that matter).

So your question is based on a false and stupid premise.

If I do (which would be stupid) I would say that yes, it could count as self defense, specially if he shots AFTER I announced myself (which I would always do).

But the equivalency is idiotic. Those were on the streets so none of them can invoke the castle doctrine - and that IF that state has a castle doctrine ...

[–] greentimemusic (1069) 2 years ago

What if you don't like your neighbors? And they make you mad. Because they don't fly a Dixie flag or some shit that you find offensive. So you go over with your gun and they shoot at you and miss. So you shot back and kill them all. The cops show up and you say "officer ... I was defending myself". Do they let you go? Or do they arrest you?

[–] asom (6824) 2 years ago

Even if I don't like my neighbor I DON'T GO WITH A GUN ON HIS PROPERTY.

I call the cops on him if he does something stupid. I don't shoot someone for being offensive, that's what the democrats do :P

Rittenhouse was arrested as well, so what's your point???

Yes, it's not the job of the cop the decide if it is self defense or not, that's on the jury. Most likely the cop will arrest me whatever I say, just how they arrested Rittenhouse.

And again: the difference is in the castle doctrine, that could make me the aggressor but NOT because of the gun but because I'm on his property. Rittenhouse and the stupid had been on public ground, NOT in their house. So your analogy is as stupid as possible.

I swear you democrats are dumber and dumber in arguments.

[–] greentimemusic (1069) 2 years ago

I am just asking a hypothetical. Let's say you HATE your neighbors because they are immigrants. So you go over with your gun and they fire, miss and you kill them. Can you claim you are defending yourself? I mean you sure do get upset. Typical republican.

[–] greentimemusic (1069) 2 years ago

I mean is that your defense in court? You were defending yourself?

[–] asom (6824) 2 years ago

I get upset because you are dumb and ask dumb questions:

https://www.grievelaw.com/WisconsinGun/Laws/CastleDoctrineExplained

Read and educate yourself. And yes, I can still claim self defense AS YOU see above as long as I don't break the law entering his property. And even then I might be able to claim self defense and go away from a murder charge but I would be charged with breaking and entering and other things.

But, again, as I was already saying: it is a STUPID question, it didn't happen in someone's house, it was on the street.

Why the fuck is so hard for you democrats to understand basic concepts.

PS: if I shit on democrats it doesn't mean that I'm a republican, I would shit on those as well if they would bring stupid arguments.

I'm neither, it looks like neither have common sense and argue strictly based on political/party lines.

[–] greentimemusic (1069) 2 years ago

Ok here is a better analogy. Your kid is under 18 and goes into Walmart and shop lifts some lube. Now your neighbors kid of 17 hears this is going to happen because your kid told him he was going to do it. Then the neighbor kid goes to Walmart, waits for your son to leave and then the neighbor kid approaches your son and confronts him in the Walmart parking lot. Your son pushes the neighbor kid and the neighbor kid shoots (and kills) your son with his gun. Is that self defense?

[–] asom (6824) 2 years ago

I don't raise stupid kids that would steal lube from Walmart. God you are dumb and you bring the most stupid arguments.

Maybe you want to say your kid. If your kid does that and gets killed: guess what, I don't care. And guess what: his story will NEVER reach the first page of mainstream media.

But guess what: the one doing the shooting would be arrested and a jury will decide if it was self defense during a trial. Not you, not me.

[–] greentimemusic (1069) 2 years ago

Ok so maybe you aren't a Republican. And maybe I'm not a democratic. But I haven't insulted you once. Yet you seem to have some type of anger issue. So i guess your political alignment doesn't matter when you are an asshole.

Either way would it be RIGHT for the neighbor kid to kill your kid because it's self defense?

[–] asom (6824) 2 years ago

Will say again:

My answer:
"But guess what: the one doing the shooting would be arrested and a jury will decide if it was self defense during a trial. Not you, not me, we don't get to decide."

when you are a asshole.

That I'm. You see? I don't deny reality :P

And as an asshole I get angry when people ask dumb questions ...

Either way would it be RIGHT for the neighbor kid to kill your kid because it's self defense?

Again: that would never happen. My son would not act like that, period.

BTW, Right and Wrong and fluid, words that usually mean nothing - at some point it was legal and RIGHT to own slaves, according to those morals, now it's not. What's important if it's legal or not at this moment. And that's not for me (or for you) to decide, we are NOT legal experts.

[–] greentimemusic (1069) 2 years ago

It wasn't a dumb question. You ASSumed I am comparing this to the Kyle shooting. I am merely having a discussion about something totally hypothetical and where you might draw a line. Apparently your line is take your gun whenever you like and shoot who you want.

[–] asom (6824) 2 years ago

No, I don't own a gun, I'm pro gun control (not banning but more strict laws).

So my line is NOT take my gun (that I don't have) and shoot who I want. I explained you that even in your hypothetical situation I WOULD NOT ENTER MY NEIGHBOR property unannounced. It's called common sense.

Plus: it's a legal question, I'm not a legal expert and YOU ARE NOT ONE EITHER. But I WOULD GET ARRESTED.

[–] kwestmo (4385) 2 years ago

You're arguing with a moron. Be careful. Onlookers may confuse you with him.

[–] greentimemusic (1069) 2 years ago

Good one. Dickhead.

[–] Bossdog677 (1553) 2 years ago

Not only that but I think this guy wants to kill his neighbors for flying a Dixie Flag and fishing for his way out of it. I'd get some red flags laws in this guy.

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

If you push someone who is holding a gun, no matter what the circumstances, expect to get shot.

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

False analogy.

[–] greentimemusic (1069) 2 years ago

Your face is a false analogy.

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

Deep, bruh. You must be a brain surgeon!

[–] triplea (3577) 2 years ago

You're asking if the neighbour can claim self defence?

[–] FilmBuff (7234) 2 years ago

Your question makes no sense. The person who got shot claims self-defense? That's what the shooter does.

[–] Miyagido (2944) 2 years ago

Serious question my arse. Your neighbour's house isn't a public "protest" held on public property, and your neighbour isn't actively attacking you, you disingenuous twat.

[–] Burk48917 (11356) 2 years ago

How does that relate to his post?

[–] StrongRex (1319) 2 years ago

If you are being attacked by multiple people who are destroying property over a thieving rapist, are you just going to let them get you?

[–] Kendricks (2239) 2 years ago

You are exactly the kind of people OP talked about.

What an asinine comparison to make.

[–] Bossdog677 (1553) a year ago

If he was beating his wife and burning his house down and came lunging at you trying to break your neck with a skateboard while his friend was aiming a pistol in your face absolutely you can claim self defense you dipshit.

[–] MovieChatUser497 (18943) a year ago

That’s not even close to a legitimate analogy.

[–] Bossdog677 (1553) 5 months ago

Is this that Whataboutism I hear about that liberals use to deflect any criticism but use themselves for ridiculous scenarios like this to try to justify what we all seen with our own eyes?

[–] moviechatterer (15583) 5 months ago

no greentimemusic is an incoherent idiot. we cant even tell his position his analogy is so dumb. he might be for or against , left or right .

[–] greentimemusic (1069) 5 months ago

My point is everytime someone commits a crime, by kyles logic, it's ok to just grab your gun and run rampant shooting the criminals. It's not. This isn't the wild west. There is law and order for a reason.

[–] Bossdog677 (1553) 5 months ago

Law and Order he says ok Bub

[–] Bossdog677 (1553) 5 months ago

If I may recall the facts as they were presented to me some Big Skinhead Bill Dude who I'm sure used the N word quite liberally throughout life checked himself out of the Mental Hospital to go help destroy a town and lit a dumpster on fire and was pushing it towards a gas station on an attempt to blow it up and Rittenhouse either tried or successfully put the fire out which enraged the Skinhead who came charging at the kid like a rhino into a back alley while the skinheads friend starting firing shots and Kyle got out of that by his God given talent and had a long trek to the cops littered along the way with Self Righteous Pedo College Commies who tried to beat him possibly to death while the cops stood at the corner with their thumbs up their asses.

But Law and Order by the way

[–] [deleted] 5 months ago

When did he do that?

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) 2 years ago

I see people trying to disarm a possible spree shooter. You don't walk into the middle of a legitimate legal civil rights demonstration carrying a loaded rifle.

And now you're gonna claim it's okay because he shot a pedo. He had no clue that guy's background. And that guy didn't try to kill him. Yeah, lets arm all 17-year-olds with rifles so they can go out in the streets and shoot possible pedos. Sounds like a plan! 🤣

Sorry, that's not the society most of us want to live in. Let the cops do that job.

[–] kwestmo (4385) 2 years ago

So you are saying the people that got shot were vigilantes? If they were trying to disarm Kyle they were taking the law into their own hands. A "possible" spree shooter definitely means they were vigilantes. I agree with you on that.

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) 2 years ago

I don't think you can call them vigilantes. They saw some guy with a rifle at a protest and thought "Wtf? This guy is dangerous."

They tried to take the gun from him, not kill him. The one protestor tried to knock the gun out of Rittenhouse's hand with his skateboard. It's a very important distinction that he hit the gun with his skateboard, not Rittenhouse. It was proactive self defense to disarm him, not vigilantism.

That kid should never have been at a protest with a loaded rifle.

[–] mcqueen (1150) 2 years ago

👍👍👍

[–] asom (6824) 2 years ago

It doesn't work like that dude, and you know it. You don't attack someone just because he has a gun, period.

And the guy HIT Rittenhouse, NOT the gun.

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) 2 years ago

That's exactly how it works. In my America cops carry guns, not high school kids. Yes, you attack armed gunmen. And if someone had attacked Salvador Ramos in Uvalde quick enough, there are a bunch of dead kids who would be alive today.

[–] asom (6824) 2 years ago

I don't know in what America you live, but I do know that a lot of Americans are STUPID.

In the real America anyone can carry a gun if it's legal for them to carry a gun and if you attack them YOU are the perp, not them, nd they have the right to self defense. And in that state it was legal for Rittenhouse to carry a gun. Period. And guess what: he was found non-guilty by a jury so his actions had been legal in that state so you can suck it up buttercup. I don't know about stupid, ignorant Americans but a judges and a jury know better the laws of that state.

https://www.aneeqahmad.com/blog/2021/july/wisconsin-gun-laws/

Btw, they didn't know Rittenhouse's age so no, they were NOT in the right to try and disarm him.

Plus:

https://news.yahoo.com/judge-dismisses-gun-charge-against-155900086.html

"Rittenhouse’s defense team, however, successfully argued that there was a loophole in the law that says the misdemeanor only applies to 17-year-olds carrying short-barrel rifles. Carrying a short-barrel rifle at any age in Wisconsin is a felony, with exceptions for active military and police officers."

And btw, there had been cops around there and the attackers were not cops, as long as the kid was minding his business and didn't attack anyone is NOT THEIR job (NOR is it yours) to ask him why is he carrying a weapon. You're not Justice, you're not Batman, YOU ARE NOT A COP.

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) 2 years ago

Uhuh. Walk down Main Street in any state in America with a loaded rifle over your shoulder and you will be stopped by questioned by police. Wisconsin law applies to carrying a gun for hunting, not high schools boys during a protest march.

Lawyers and their loopholes. 99.9% of us just want safe streets. We don't some kid carrying a loaded rifle trying to make a political statement. Nuh-uh.

[–] Bossdog677 (1553) a year ago

Yeah we need to make the safest street for dirtbags to burn down and steal everything in with no fear of repercussions. That's how we advance as a society.

[–] kwestmo (4385) 2 years ago

You obviously don't understand what a vigilante is. More importantly you don't understand that twelve people presented with more facts and evidence that you will ever see concluded it was self-defense.

[–] sokar (2098) 2 years ago

If rittenhouse had a head shaped like a gun then you would be accurate otherwise your talking shit.

That entire post you took the time to write out shows you didn't watch one second of the trial.

That kid should never have been at a protest with a loaded rifle

But you give a pass to people looting and burning down buildings. If they had stayed home as well then they would still be alive. Maybe next time don't go burning and looting thinking it is ok, how about we start there.

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) 2 years ago

A skateboard hit his head? Really? Do you have a pic of this?

He was on the ground at one point with a gun aimed at his head and the last victim had enough sense not to shoot him. No one tried to kill that dumb kid. 🤣

No, if there's burning and looting I call the cops, not my neighbor's teenage son.

[–] sokar (2098) 2 years ago

A skateboard hit his head? Really? Do you have a pic of this?

https://i0.wp.com/greatgameindia.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Kyle-Rittenhouse-attacked-with-skateboard.jpg?resize=696%2C402&ssl=1

https://preview.redd.it/csthndm6ndj51.jpg?auto=webp&s=fbe80169b222b5a2272e07f0a15d52a092dd4335

https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-b31ff1336b936fc2d15b200ccaa0c779-lq
Oh look a gun.

Don't see any pictures of the skatboard hitting the gun do you. How about that. What nice people you are defending who tried to hit someone in the head.

No, if there's burning and looting I call the cops, not my neighbor's teenage son.

The cops were allowing it to happen and the celebs and government were bailing them out and dropping charges so who stops them then. The people who live there and the poeple who have freinds and family there. If the cops had actually done there job and arrested these rioters then they may still be alive. If they had stayed home and not rioted then they would still be alive. Simple.

But you are still given them a pass for doing it. You haven't called them out or said they shouldn't have been there. You are completely ignoring there actions because you have an agenda against a kid who defended himself against people wanting to hurt him.

Those people should never have been there burning and looting buildings and detroying a neighbourhood. They had no right whatsoever but in your eyes that is ok to destroy peoples livelyhoods and businesses and they are not allowed to defend them and there town.

You have some wierd morals.

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) 2 years ago

You said the medic hit Rittenhouse in the head. Your pic does not show that. The medic hit Rittenhouse in the arm, just as I said, to disarm him, not kill him. Your pics back me up. Here's an ABC News report:

Victims of Kenosha protest shooting tried to disarm Kyle Rittenhouse

A man known for his love of skateboarding, a Texas transplant to the state and a college student acting as a volunteer medic was killed this week by a 17-year-old gunman amid chaos on the streets of Kenosha, Wisconsin.

Anthony Huber, 26, of Silver Lake, was shot in the chest after apparently trying to wrest the gun away from Rittenhouse, the complaint said.

According to court records, Huber had a skateboard in his right hand and used it to "make contact" with Rittenhouse's left shoulder as they struggled for control of the gun.

https://abc7ny.com/kyle-rittenhouse-kenosha-shooting-jacob-blake/6393801/

Huber is the hero here, not the high school wannabe cop who murdered him.

I want a society of law and order. I do not want to defund police. I want police to stop burning and looting, not untrained high school kids who end up panicking and killing people.

[–] sokar (2098) 2 years ago

You said the medic hit Rittenhouse in the head

No i didn't. I said if Rittenhouse had a head shaped like a gun you would be accurate. As you can see I didn't mention anyone.

Nice you ignore all photos of your hero stomping on his head and hitting him with a skateboard and the other carrying a pistol. Not suprising as you are bias and never watched a single second of the trial. YOu have just believed all the lies the MSM told you.

But I will say you said the skateboard hit the gun and then you post an article referencing the photo i posted that clearly shows him not hitting the gun but aiming for Rittenhouse. I'll tell you what you lay on the floor and I'll repeatedly hit you with a skatboard and stomp on your head with my foot and see how long it is before you defend yourself just like Rittenhouse did.

I want police to stop burning and looting, not untrained high school kids who end up panicking and killing people.

So why were they not doing that?
Why were celebs and your own government bailing them out.

You are more concerned about 1 person defending himself legally, yes legally than the damage your heroes caused. You are an odd fellow.

At no point have you condemned there actions. Why? I'm guessing you think it is ok to burn down peoples businesses and riot and steal. I would rather have a hundred Rittenhouse than 1 of you.

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) 2 years ago

Have you ever been in a street fight? I have. You don't shoot people in a physical brawl. Men have been fighting with their dukes for thousands years. Using a gun in a man-on-man fight is manslaughter if not murder. And it's cowardly. Rittenhouse is a coward.

This was not an open shut case. That's why there was a lengthy trial. I believe the jury made a bad decision. Just like the 12 clowns who let OJ Simpson walk after he murdered his wife.

No, I don't think it's right to light fires in public trash cans. That's what the protestor was doing. I don't believe it's the place of teenager to kill a guy who lit a fire in a trash can. It's the job of police to apprehend such people, not kill them.

And of these guys could have killed Rittenhouse with a skateboard to the head, or shot to the head when he was down on the ground. None of them tried to kill Rittenhouse. They only tried to disarm a spree shooter.

[–] Bossdog677 (1553) a year ago

So you think a 17 year old kid should have a fist fight with a giant rhino of man who is a known child rapist that is trying to actively kill him while his friends fire shots all around?

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) a year ago

The child rapist was a midget. The midget was Rittenhouse's first victim. I'm not talking about him.

I'm talking about Anthony Huber, the second murder victim. Huber is the hero of this story.

[–] chilone (17861) 2 years ago

So if you have a gun and you're not shooting at, or threatening anyone, and someone starts hitting you with a skateboard and trying to take it from you, you would know they were just trying to 'disarm' you?

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) 2 years ago

Rittenhouse had already shot one man before Huber tried to disarm him. Rittenhouse was threatening and shooting protestors.

[–] chilone (17861) 2 years ago

So Kyle would have known Huber was just trying to disarm him, then?

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) 2 years ago

Trying to knock the gun out of his hand was a good sign.

This whole approach is rather specious to me. If somebody had tried to disarm the Uvalde shooter who killed all those little kids, would it be self defense if the Uvalde shooter shot him?

A crowd chased Rittenhouse after he shot a man. I'd say Huber is a hero, a dead hero.

Frankly, someone could have shot Rittenhouse after he killed the first man and it could be justified. For crying out loud, nobody tried to kill Rittenhouse.

[–] chilone (17861) 2 years ago

No. It wouldn't have. As the jury determined, he acted in self defense. Shooting him would have been murder.

P.S. So Kyle knew they were lying when the said they were going to kill him?

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) 2 years ago

Juries get it wrong sometimes. That's why we're discussing this. OJ Simpson murdered his wife and walked.

The first man Rittenhouse shot was unarmed. Shooting him after the first killing would not have been murder. That's why the crowd chased him to disarm him. They showed more restraint than Rittenhouse. Again, nobody tried to kill Rittenhouse.

[–] chilone (17861) 2 years ago

Even if they weren't trying to kill him, he still had the right to defend himself.

P.S. unarmed people have killed others...

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) 2 years ago

No, you don't use lethal force against someone who wants a fist fight. Dude, I've been in plenty of fights. I never felt the need to shoot anybody.

This creep gunned down a man for petty vandalism. Police don't shoot petty vandals. This was a job for the cops. That frightened kid had no business being there with a loaded rifle. He provoked that whole event.

[–] chilone (17861) 2 years ago

So he provoked the rioting and looting? Maybe the rioters and looters had no business being there. Ever think of that?

So if, in one of your many fights, someone was hitting you with a skateboard and you had a gun, you know with absolute certainty that you wouldn't use it?

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) 2 years ago

Police would have handled this in a professional manner. Police don't gun down unarmed rioters. They apprehend them and arrest them.

The first man Rittenhouse killed threw a plastic bag at him. Yikes!!!!!!!!!!!

Joseph Rosenbaum was the first person Rittenhouse shot on that chaotic night.

Rosenbaum was at the unrest after having just been discharged from a hospital in Milwaukee, his fiancée, Kariann Swart, testified at the trial.

The 36-year-old crossed paths with Rittenhouse in a used-car lot as Rittenhouse brandished an AR-15-style rifle. Rosenbaum, meanwhile, was unarmed and carried a plastic bag containing a toothbrush, toothpaste, socks, deodorant and some papers.

Videos of the incident show that Rosenbaum eventually threw the plastic bag he was carrying at Rittenhouse, who responded by firing four shots at the man.

https://www.npr.org/2021/11/20/1057571558/what-we-know-3-men-kyle-rittenhouse-victims-rosenbaum-huber-grosskreutz

Dude, this is a joke.

[–] chilone (17861) 2 years ago

You continue with your assumptions. How in blue hell would Kyle know what was in the plastic bag? They openly said they were going to kill him. What he did was justified and getting a pedophile and drug addict and another violent POS off the street was a bonus.

Kyle is clearly the hero.

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) 2 years ago

One man had a rifle. One had a plastic bag with a toothbrush in it. I wonder which one was trying to kill somebody? 🤣

You crazies need to let the police do their job.

[–] chilone (17861) 2 years ago

The one saying they were going to kill him.

What do you do when the police won't do their job?

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) 2 years ago

Loaded rifles speak louder than plastic bags.

Oh a man with a plastic bag is trying to kill me!!! What shall I ever do???

The dumb kid panicked and started shooting.

[–] chilone (17861) 2 years ago

Kyle's the hero and anyone with more than a single digit IQ knows this.

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) 2 years ago

Nah, Anthony Huber is the hero, not that little snotnosed kid. I have much respect for the man. RIP.

[–] chilone (17861) 2 years ago

The fact that you regard a convicted, violent felon as a hero says all we need to know about you.

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) 2 years ago

Chilone, you're one of the sheep. What Huber did that night was heroic. He tried to stop a mass shooter after he killed a man with a plastic bag! Lol. No one's saying he led a perfect life.

[–] chilone (17861) 2 years ago

Like I said...

[–] Miyagido (2944) 2 years ago

You type nothing but typical Blueanon NPC retard shit angry over dead pedos probably because you're just like them.

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) 2 years ago

Huh? And you're shameful as fuck to accuse Huber of pedophilia. That was Rosenbaum, you dumbfuck. There were never any such charges against Huber for that.

And learn to write a coherent sentence. 🤣

[–] Bossdog677 (1553) 2 years ago

Blowing up a gas station on a crowded street isn't "Petty vandalism" you moron

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) 2 years ago

Pffffffft. Nobody blew up a gas station. Some fool set a trash can on fire.

[–] asom (6824) 2 years ago

U blind mate??

The pic clearly shows contact between the skateboard and his head.

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) 2 years ago

C'mon, skateboard versus rifle? Really? He was trying to disarm Rittenhouse.

[–] asom (6824) 2 years ago

C'mon, it still can be used as a weapon.

And now you switch, after evidence was provided, from "was not hit in the head" to "c'mpn, is not a gun".

Guess what: hit in the head with a skateboard (or anything sturdy for that matter) can even lead to death.

"C'mon, skateboard versus rifle? Really? He was trying to disarm Rittenhouse." - are you a mind reader???

And even if YOU are KR is NOT so he had no idea what are the intentions of his aggressor. It's VERY easy to understand that he was in fear for his life or at least corporal safety.

https://abc7.com/starbucks-fight-santa-ana-man-dies-skateboard/1098183/

"A man was killed after being hit in the head with a skateboard"

Plus: if you attack with a skateboard someone that has a rifle (and HE WAS RUNNING AWAY, not shooting people) you are a mentally disabled imbecile. Specially when the cops were 30 feet away and you can ask them to do their job.

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) 2 years ago

And now you switch, after evidence was provided, from "was not hit in the head" to "c'mpn, is not a gun".

I "switched" nothing. Where did I agree with you? That pic shows Rittenhouse was hit in the shoulder, not the head. All photos and accounts agree with me that Huber is a hero who tried to prevent a mass shooting.

So you call a man who risked his life to stop a lunatic with a gun an "imbecile"? We need more "imbeciles" like Huber. That guy had balls, unlike the scared little shit with the gun.

[–] asom (6824) 2 years ago

Yeah, for sure we need more people like Huber.

We already know that the stupid left supports and protects criminals.

"Anthony Huber also had a criminal history. Court records in Wisconsin show that Huber was convicted of disorderly conduct in 2018 as a domestic abuse repeater and was cited for possessing drug paraphernalia. He was also found guilty of a felony for strangulation and suffocation, domestic abuse. He was also convicted in that case of felony false imprisonment with a dangerous weapon, domestic abuse. A charge of second-degree recklessly endangering safety was dismissed and read-in, as was a charge of battery and two charges of disorderly conduct. He was ordered not to possess weapons and no contact orders were issued."

But hey, KR allegedly hit a girl, that's way worse than repeated domestic abuse. drug abuse, strangulation and suffocation (basically a murder attempt), etc.

Yeah, you can have him. And of course you need more pedophiles as well in your life.
Sick degenerates.

And maybe you don't realize it but you are highly hypocritical when you demonize KR for something, a minor thing, that he allegedly did while your heroes that you "need" are convicted felons and pedophiles. You really know how to chose your friends ...

"That pic shows Rittenhouse was hit in the shoulder"

Look again at the pic, maybe you need glasses. It's clear that THERE IS CONTACT with the head. Period.

https://i0.wp.com/greatgameindia.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Kyle-Rittenhouse-attacked-with-skateboard.jpg?resize=696%2C402&ssl=1

Look how the skateboard edge is unde his hair, interrupting the hair line.

"So you call a man who risked his life to stop a lunatic with a gun an "imbecile"?"

Yeah, if he did nothing he would be alive today, only his stupidity killed him. He attacked a kid, he didn't try to stop a lunatic with a gun. And surprise, all the accounts, specially the ones that matter, agree with me and Kyle walked away.

[–] triplea (3577) 2 years ago

Despite openly saying they were going to kill him? 🤦🏿‍♂️

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

You are a wonderful tool for the State. You know damn well he was not a spree shooter (and if you don't, I apologize for challenging the intelligence of an imbecile). Now, I'm going to assume you're not an imbecile and you're simply being disingenuous. My question, thus, is this: What's in it for you? Are you being paid by the government to propagate inversions like this? Because you know they'll sell you out without a second thought, don't you?

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) 2 years ago

Bottom line my interest in this is for the safety of my family. I do not want high school kids prancing around in the street with loaded rifles.

I want a civil society. I don't want to hear my brother or sister was shot by some trigger happy teenager playing cop.

That's all. Let trained officers handle law enforcement, not gung ho teenage boys.

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

Were you worried about living in a civil society when people were burning down cities throughout the summer of 2020?

[–] kwestmo (4385) 2 years ago

don't expect a real answer to your question

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) 2 years ago

Not enough to go out and shoot protestors.

[–] greentimemusic (1069) 2 years ago

Yup! Just run around and shoot people and hope they are a pedo. Makes sense.

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) 2 years ago

Shoot enough people and you might kill a few pedos as a bonus! 🤣

[–] Miyagido (2944) 2 years ago

Especially if you shoot at antifa!

[–] asom (6824) 2 years ago

From things that never happened ... this never happened the most ...

[–] ProgsReturn (2075) 2 years ago

>I see people trying to disarm a possible spree shooter.
Putin wanted to disarm Ukraine.

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) 2 years ago

I see Putin trying to keep NATO nukes out of Ukraine. It's preventative disarming and it's in the world's best interests.

[–] ProgsReturn (2075) 2 years ago

Let's hope he disarms the USA next eh?

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) 2 years ago

Pffffffft. Putin is too wise a man to ever attack any NATO nation, let alone the Beast & the Whore of Babylon!

He stated his reasons for invading Ukraine. It was a move against the expansion of NATO on his border.

If we want to avoid World War III the West must show such restraint as well. The Russians aren't trying to put missiles in Cuba!

Putin is trying to deescalate provocation for war. Biden is trying to protect his son's investments in Ukraine and doesn't give a rat's ass if U.S./Russian relations are irrevocably damaged.

[–] ProgsReturn (2075) 2 years ago

That you are promoting the expansion of communism over democracy is typical for the brainwashed left.

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) 2 years ago

Lol. Ukraine is not democratic. Zelensky has banned 11 political parties since he's been in "power". And that's not to say that Zelensky is the real power. He's an actor playing the role he's been hired to do.

As for Russia and the left, Russia is no longer Communist. Putin has instituted a capitalist economy and is a devout Russian Orthodox.

America's involvement in this war is about protecting the Biden family's fortune.

[–] ProgsReturn (2075) 2 years ago

I believe someone stole the lead plating off the roof of your trailer.

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) 2 years ago

And I believe the roof of you trailer is covered in tinfoil to stop leaks.

[–] ProgsReturn (2075) 2 years ago

Do you seriously think Russia is democratic after Putin poisoned his opposition leader?

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) 2 years ago

Both Russia and Ukraine are rather barbaric states held over from the old Soviet Union. The U.S. has no business backing either side and turn this into a global conflict with a Russia which has nukes.

Vietnam was not our fight. Afghanistan was not our fight. Iraq was not our fight. Ukraine is not our fight.

Neutrality. No yet another war to benefit the arms dealers.

[–] ProgsReturn (2075) 2 years ago

Is it a fair assumption that you don't give a shit about the spread of communism? Even though communist countries always end in disaster?

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) 2 years ago

Isn't that what you guys said about Vietnam? And 50 years later after thousands of dead young Americans, the American President sleeps in the Hanoi Hilton and negotiates trade deals.

It's all a fucking game to make some people money, why can't you see that?

[–] ProgsReturn (2075) 2 years ago

I said FA about Vietnam.
> And 50 years later after thousands of dead young Americans, the American President sleeps in the Hanoi Hilton and negotiates trade deals.

Which is called capitalism.

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) 2 years ago

You're worried about the spread of communism. And we sent 60,000 young Americans to die there for nothing. And how many hundreds of thousands of Vietnamese did we kill?

Yeah, it's called capitalism. So it was all a waste anyway, wasn't it? Capitalism was never threatened.

[–] ProgsReturn (2075) 2 years ago

>And we sent 60,000 young Americans to die there for nothing.

Who is this 'we' ? I wasn't even born then.

>Yeah, it's called capitalism. So it was all a waste anyway, wasn't it? Capitalism was never threatened.

Ever wondered why people always seem to move from communist countries to capitalist countries and not vice-versa?

[–] DMT (4369) 2 years ago

legit civil right demonstration?!? these people were chimping out and burning towns lmfao

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) 2 years ago

The demonstration was legal. If people were "chimping out" that's why we have cops, not 17-year-old kids with loaded rifles.

[–] DMT (4369) 2 years ago

cops where ordered to let the citys burn and stand back and watch the anarchy. hardworking honest citizens watched their businesses and life work get burned down overnight by a bunch of welfare monkeys who added nothing to this society and just leached from it their whole lives. the criminals had all the rights and the cops weren't helping. people needed to take protection into there own hands when the law isnt there anymore. lots of business got burned down in Cleveland but my buddy who own a restaurant in downtown during the riots came into town locked and loaded and had to threaten these criminals at gunpoint to not destroy his business. these thugs are cowards and left his business alone just to go next door to loot and destroy all the other undefended businesses on that popular street. Rittenhouse cleaned the streets more that night than 10 cops do their whole career. he is like batman, a true hero. those thugs he killed are rotting in the ground as wormmeat while Rittenhouse is drowning knee deep in pus like a King

[–] asom (6824) 2 years ago

The demonstration was past a curfew enforced to prevent possible demonstrations. How was it legal???

How is it legal to destroy and burn property ???

[–] CraigC (8160) a year ago

"legitimate legal civil rights demonstration"

Is that what you call a violent riot???

[–] Bossdog677 (1553) 5 months ago

I seen a bunch of White Savior Public School kids where the only thing their teachers taught them was how to justify Gang Bullying students who didn't fit in and getting Authority on your side but school was out that day.

[–] Gd5150 (11747) 2 years ago

The analysis of lemmings twisting themselves into knots to oppose Rittenhouse shows clearly they didn’t watch the trial, and they don’t know any of the facts surrounding the case.

Standard practice for a leftwing lemming.

[–] asom (6824) 2 years ago

Oh, they know. But they have to be in line with the party so the mental gymnastics are quite funny ...

[–] triplea (3577) 2 years ago

The truth is 'just a state of mind' when you're a leftist ...

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

This is a really good point. How many of us know people who are intelligent but refuse to speak up for fear of being called a conservative or, in their book, something worse? This kind of cowardice has supported every tyrannical gesture in history.

[–] triplea (3577) 2 years ago

Same reason the Jan 6 protest is apparently an armed militia uprising and worse than the Civil War... It's suits one side's political agenda.

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

It's amazing how passive the masses are in the face of such obvious, state-sponsored lies.

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

Yes, they're obviously trolls.

[–] tsrt (1146) 2 years ago

He shot the first guy four times.

[–] Miyagido (2944) 2 years ago

Good riddance too! I'll give him 4 rounds of applause, 1 for each shot

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) 2 years ago

There is such irony in your title. "The sheep" are making a hero out of Rittenhouse. The real hero here was Anthony Huber who tried to disarm the unhinged teenager.

https://historica.fandom.com/wiki/Anthony_Huber

https://heavy.com/news/anthony-huber-rittenhouse-victim/

[–] stickman38 (3346) 2 years ago

Barbarian,

Why do you think Rittenhouse was "unhinged"? Is there some video evidence to support this claim?

I really don't have a horse in this race, to me it was just a group of idiots meeting on a dark street and a few of them got shot. I won't lose any sleep over this case...

But I am wondering why it's assumed that Rittenhouse was the bad guy in all this? And it's been like this before the trial even began.

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) 2 years ago

I resent the fact that some teenage kid thinks it's his duty to go play cop at a civil right protest. And I'm not 100% behind BLM either. It's just very dangerous for all of us with families to have renegade teenagers patrolling the streets with rifles. What is this, a third world country?

Men have altercations and men will fight. So mix it up with your fists. I have no respect for a coward with a gun.

I say Rittenhouse is "unhinged" because he may have gone there with good intentions - to play white knight, as if. But as soon as he realized not everyone was gonna play his game, and they tried to disarm him, he started killing people.

I just don't see this dumb kid as any kind of hero. I think he got in over his head and people died.

[–] stickman38 (3346) 2 years ago

Why do you think he was there to "play cop"? Is there any video evidence to confirm this?

He put out a couple of fires, one of the guys he shot dead didn't like it and told him he was going to kill him. At which time, Kyle tried the flee the scene. Several of them followed him and proceeded to become aggressive with him.

Plus, you do realize that one of the guys he shot had a gun... so is he a coward too or just Rittenhouse? In fact, a lot of people were open carry that night. Plenty of people bring guns to these riots.

He doesn't have to sit there and let someone beat him up and take his gun. At that point, he can legally defend himself with force. Kyle did everything he possibly could to avoid this scenario, the guys that he shot started it. END OF STORY.

Most people don't see him as a hero, including myself, but that doesn't mean it wasn't self-defense.

[–] Bossdog677 (1553) 2 years ago

This big Rhino looking Nazi dude who just got himself out of the nut house to partake is casual blowing up of gas stations rushes after this 14 year old kid like a rhino with intent to do great bodily harm while Rhino Nazi's friend is "firing warning shots" at the kid and all this Onan idiot can say over and over is "he should have put up his dukes" the education system failed Onan bad

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) 2 years ago

Lol. BLM people are leftists, not Nazis. Nazis are right wing like Kyle's buddies, the white racist Proud Boys.

Maybe we should arm a bunch of junior high school kids and have them stand guard around your house to protect you from "Nazis". 🤣

[–] tvfan (12729) 2 years ago

Nazis are right wing

You have that backwards:

Nazism is National Socialism which is considered a branch of socialism. Nazism is a form of Fascism.

Fascism "is a fatal combination of nationalism and socialism".
Fascism was invented by Benito Mussolini who was a left-wing socialist as well as his father.

Just because the Nazis turned against their own socialist ranks as well as socialists outside their ranks it does not mean that the foundation of their ideology did not originate from "Socialism". They ate their own as they still do today; as they say. The Nazis also waged war against communists which is also another branch of “socialism”.

Keep in mind that Nazism can also be practiced by those claiming to be right-wing which it is actually an oxymoron and a contradiction since Nazism/Fascism originated from the left-wing socialists.

You will find a lot of information online that claims that Nazism/Fascism is right-wing which is part of the big lie meant to deceive. Proper research will lead you to the truth unless you are already bias.

Aspects of socialism has been around for thousands of years; most noticeably in slavery, however, this ideology started taking form with the French revolution and then became most prominent with the German philosopher Karl Marx and several others like Lenin.

Democrats and left in general are the true heirs of fascism (one of several branches of socialism). In our current modern society, this is called “Liberal Fascism”.

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) 2 years ago

No, fascists do not redistribute income and do away with class differences.

You don't understand the term "National Socialism". It means that the state directs the economy. It does not confiscate the property of capitalists. Corporations and the middle class fared quite well under Nazism. Private property was not seized on a mass scale as we saw in Russia under the Bolsheviks.

Another hallmark of fascism is extreme nationalism, racism, or tribalism. Communists created The International. It was ostensibly globalist. Nazism makes no pretense of internationalism or racial equality. The Aryans i.e. Germanic peoples were considered the Super Race.

Fascism is also traditional in culture. The Nazis revived Teutonic paganism. Fascism is not progressive on social issues like Socialism - it's culturally conservative. Communism is atheistic.

Please, Nazi Germany was not socialist and there was no redistribution of income.

[–] tvfan (12729) 2 years ago

That is because they were under a totalitarian dictatorship and therefore they made up their own rules/laws.

The fact does not change that Nazism/Fascism originated from a left socialism ideology and nothing you have stated contradicts that.

[–] SamNoyoun (5828) 2 years ago

Ah, now I understand...You've been spouting this "Nazis are left-wing" nonsense since your very first reply on the site! Which brings us to the relevant question: Whose sock are you, I wonder?

You should read a history book sometime, you might benefit from it...

[–] tvfan (12729) 2 years ago

You understand nothing...and you should stop believing fake news and fake propaganda.

No sock here, but nice try at "deflecting".

There is nothing nonsense about "the historical facts" and "the truth".
I provided plenty of sources and there is much more that verifies and confirms my statements.

Reading a history book is exactly what you should have done before you started spouting your fake-propaganda nonsense.

Based on your reply on this thread, which is far away from the one where I provided several factual sources that made you look like an ignorant and arrogant fool, it appears that "the truth" has hurt your "feelings and pride"....a typical leftist sentimentalist.

[–] kwestmo (4385) 2 years ago

Twelve people who know more about the situation than you will ever know declared it was self defense. What do youn think about that?

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) 2 years ago

I think OJ Simpson was guilty as fuck. What do "youn" think about that? 🤣

[–] JoWilli (19957) 2 years ago

if the glove dont fit you must acquit

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) 2 years ago

Actually, no. The jurors were idiots to buy that ignorant line. 🤣

[–] JoWilli (19957) 2 years ago

for sure, they were all idiots and duped into a innocent verdict.

wonder when OJ will find the real killers?

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) 2 years ago

I always found that hilarious that the media interpreted Cochran's "glove" line as if that was the summation of the case. It was a clever move on Cochran's part. But the judge should have instructed the jury ... uh, no, that's not your job to discard all the evidence.

[–] kwestmo (4385) 2 years ago

At least two big differences in the two trials

The Rittehouse trial had multiple videos showing different perspectives of the incident. The OJ trial had no videos.

The Rittenhouse prosecution presented an actual witness that conceded to what the defense claimed. The OJ trial had no actual witnesses to the crime.

Fair question, tho. Just not thought out

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) 2 years ago

Good points.

However, I was responding to the specious argument that merely because a jury delivers a not guilty verdict, that it is always correct and it cannot be analyzed and refuted.

Juries make mistakes. That was my point.

[–] asom (6824) 2 years ago

"Juries make mistakes. That was my point."

And your point was refuted - for that case. The jury didn't make a mistake in that case - the jury reached a verdict based on evidence, or lack of it thereof.

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) 2 years ago

"If the skateboard didn't hit, you must not acquit."

[–] asom (6824) 2 years ago

Who said that the jury didn't take into consideration where the skateboard hit? Be it shoulder or head???

I'm not in the jury, you're not in the jury.

And it doesn't even matter where the skateboard hit in the end, what it matters is the intention to hit. KR is NOT a mind reader so he didn't know where that hit will land, again, and when being attacked with a potential deadly weapon he was entitled, legally, to defend himself. Period.

Do you lack any kind of logic?

Your logic "oh, that guy that pointed the gun at me MAYBE just wants to shoot me in the shoulder, NOT in the head. I guess I should not try to defend myself". Same for swinging a knife, or a skateboard.

I swear, the mental gymnastics you leftists do ARE HILARIOUS.

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

That's one way to invert the truth!

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) 2 years ago

Sandy, be honest. The media pushed Rittenhouse as a hero after the trial. You actually have to be brave to criticize him now. Whatever you think of Huber's past, he tried to disarm a gunman. He faced a man with a loaded rifle and all he had was a skateboard for defense. Huber was one brave man. And he didn't have to shoot anybody. "Martyr" is the word which comes to mind.

[–] asom (6824) 2 years ago

"Whatever you think of Huber's past" - oh, but you ARE pushing that idea that KR is evil because he, allegedly, hit a girl in the past.

Fucking hypocrites.

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) a year ago

Rittenhouse also hit a girl and he liked it. Hypocrites is right.

[–] asom (6824) a year ago

The subtleties of the English language elude you …

[–] asom (6824) a year ago

No idiot, he used the kateboard to attack, unprovoked. He practically begged and deserved to be shot.

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) a year ago

Huh? Rittenhouse had already shot one protestor - the dwarf. Huber was trying to disarm a maniac.

[–] asom (6824) a year ago

Had shot one protester IN DEFENSE. NO ONE is judge jury executioner so he was in no position to attack KR and provoke him. Another clear cut example of self defense against an attacker.

Stop being an idiot.

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) a year ago

One more time, the dwarf threw a plastic bag at Rittenhouse.

[–] asom (6824) a year ago

The bag was nothing, but you are too stupid to understand. The problem was that, after chasing him and threatening to kill him, he cornered him and he grabbed the rifle. That makes it self defense 100%. KR constantly tried to run away from threats and shot only when cornered, the idiots attacked him and tried to grab his rifle and when someone pointed a gun at him. If you don’t understand the situation you are a proper imbecile that has no idea about laws - wait, we already established that.

As I said you are too dumb to follow the actions, to understand them and to understand PROPER LAWS. No, not what YOU THINK should happen but the real law. Period.

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) a year ago

How the hell was an unarmed Dwarf gonna take the loaded rifle from that hulking kid?🤣

Rittenhouse admitted the Dwarf never touched him.

He panicked and shot him. MANSLAUGHTER

You walk around pointing guns at people and someone might try and disarm you.

Dude, you're creepy. You really worship that teenage boy. Don't you?

Read court testimony and weep, dumbass:

“He was chasing me, I was alone, he threatened to kill me earlier that night. I didn’t want to have to shoot him,” Rittenhouse testified. “I pointed it at him because he kept running at me and I didn’t want him to chase me.”

He said he feared Rosenbaum, who did not touch his body at all that night, would take his gun and kill people.

“If I would have let Mr. Rosenbaum take my firearm from me, he would have used it and killed me with it and probably killed more people if I would have let him get my gun,” Rittenhouse testified.

[–] asom (6824) a year ago

You freaking idiot, you cannot even read. he didn’t touch his body but he grabbed the rifle, trying to get it away from him.

Fucking imbecile.

“ Joseph Rosenbaum, a 36-year-old unarmed Kenosha man, chased Rittenhouse into a parking lot and grabbed the barrel of his rifle.”

[–] DMT (4369) 2 years ago

Anthony Huber was a woman beater. the other guy he killed was a pedophile. the world is better with both of those bozos dead. Rittenhouse is a hero who is downing in pussy right now when those two scumbags are wormfood

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) 2 years ago

There's a video of Kyle Rittenhouse punching a woman. Point is, what both Rittenhouse and Huber did in the past has no relevance to this incident.

Would the world be better off if Rittenhouse was dead? Both Huber and Rittenhouse have hit women.

Kyle Rittenhouse Punches a Woman in Video.

A video of a fight in Kenosha, Wisconsin, supposedly shows the 17-year-old accused of killing two people at a protest assaulting a woman.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/kyle-rittenhouse-punch-woman-video/

[–] DMT (4369) 2 years ago

snopes is a libturd commie propaganda machine and even they say it is unproven meaning it is for sure fake. Huber deceived a darwan award for taking a skateboard to a gunfight. he was trying to hit Kyle in the head. if he was successful he could have knocked Kyle out and he would of been jumped by all those goons and received brian damage or death. if ur dumb enough to try to attack an ar15 holding kid with a shitty little skateboard, it is best u arent around spreading ur dumb genes in society taking the human race back into devolution

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

You know they are saying it's unproven, right? As in, isn't conclusive. There is still no evidence that he did that.

So, you're lying.

[–] asom (6824) 2 years ago

"To sum things up, videos taken in July 2020 appear to show Rittenhouse punching a woman during an altercation in Kenosha"

During an altercation. Wouldn't be surprised that she hit first expecting him to do nothing exactly because she is a woman.

Because the norm is to ignore when women assault men and to brand any other action of the men as "assault".

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (11953) 2 years ago

Only chumps hit women. What a man!

[–] asom (6824) 2 years ago

Wow, so much sexism, machoism and such. What happened with "women are strong, independent and need no man and they are as strong as men"??? Are you sure you are a leftists??

Equality bitch, take it or leave it, you can't have your cake AND eat it. Play stupid games win stupid prizes. A woman that thinks that she can hit a man without any repercurssions ... well, she gets what she deserves.

People have literally died because abuse when perps are women is ignored.

[–] samoanjoes (56646) 2 years ago

I see self defence but I also think he was there to start shit.

[–] stickman38 (3346) 2 years ago

""but I also think he was there to start shit.""

The only problem with this "idea" is that there is no evidence of it. Was it a good idea to go into a riot zone with a rifle? Probably not but other people had guns at this "event". In fact, it's a much more likely scenario that the guys he shot were there to cause trouble since they wanted to kill Kyle for putting out a fire.

Let's make no mistake about it, people that riot are scumbags, they don't deserve any special treatment from anyone. Rittenhouse was not there to riot.

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

the fact the 'peaceful protestors' (ahem) were looting and burning the town, and trying to blow up gas stations, pretty much proves they were there to cause trouble. No question of likelihood.

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

That may be true. But he's clearly defending himself in the video. He just happened to have a better class of skateboard.

[–] asom (6824) 2 years ago

And your claim is based on what???

The video evidence doesn't show him trying to "start shit" at any point. So ... how did you get to that conclusion???

[–] samoanjoes (56646) 2 years ago

Going to a different state with a gun and using gloves. He tried to predict that something bad was going to happen because he's claiming he needed to protect the city.

[–] chilone (17861) 2 years ago

It's clear the city did need protecting. The cops weren't protecting it.

[–] samoanjoes (56646) 2 years ago

The kid is 17. I don't believe that he's some good samaritan.

[–] chilone (17861) 2 years ago

Maybe, maybe not but the fact remains, the police weren't protecting the city and he'd already put out a fire.

[–] samoanjoes (56646) 2 years ago

He just doesn't strike me as the kind of guy where his heart wasn't in the right place.

[–] chilone (17861) 2 years ago

We'll probably never know. 🙂

[–] asom (6824) 2 years ago

That's your impression, which to me seems quite wrong.

He put out a fire and was running around shouting "who needs medical assistance"

His hearth was in a better place than the ones trying to start a fir and attacking him.

The third guy he shot had a gun as well, what do you think about that one?

[–] samoanjoes (56646) 2 years ago

I said earlier that it was self defense, so I have no problem with him shotting that guy.