The criteria for the Clinton AWB was: a detachable high capacity box mag (& I don't remember what the line for high cap was), a threaded barrel, a pistol grip, I thought that a folding or collapsible stock was included but I am not sure, semi-auto, & there were a couple of other features that I cannot remember.
Center fire cartridge, also, I think.
So immediately post ban, AR15 manufacturers started putting out ARs without all those features: a 5 round mag & a barrel that was not threaded got one through (I used to have a post ban Colt that had a ss match barrel--no flash suppressor, & originally came with a 5 round mag, otherwise it was a typical AR, but that was enough to get it under the ban.)
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[deleted]
3 years ago
That's the problem. The definition is an arbitrary concoction of made up shit that really means nothing. In fact at one point the goof ass law had a list of cosmetic things and it was an assault rifle if it had say 3 of things on the list... could have 2 and it wasn't a scary gun but if it had 3 it was. I also think it was removable stock not collapsible stock, at least in one of the previous iterations of "ban scary guns". I know because when it was law the value of one of my guns went up because it had a stock that was removable... as if anyone would have used it removed because without a stock it became much more difficult to hit consistent groups with. Hell in most instances I would much rather have some fucker trying to shoot me with a so called assault rifle than with a plain Jane bolt action hunting rifle... lots of things they claim make it an assault rifle don't increase the accuracy of the rifle at all and sometimes reduce it.
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immattj (4042)
3 years ago
Not me.
The average deer rifle holds 3 or 4 down below & one in the pipe. The average AR or AK mag these days is 30.
If it ever comes down to a firefight, you pick your poison, but I want as much capacity as I can get.
And evidently, America's cops must feel the same way. When was the last time you saw a cop with a .38 spec on his hip? Most of the cops I see are packing Glocks with big mags. They hold a lot, go fast, & swap mags quick. Think about it . . . that's the advantage an AR or an AK has over a deer rifle.
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3 years ago
Studies in the military show that when a soldier is firing from a slow firing rifle they are much more accurate than if they are firing from one that is semi or fully automatic. The person that knows they can fire quickly will never take careful aim, they have a tendency to just start squeezing the trigger in a spray and pray manner. Not to mention the fact that bolt actions are much more accurate. Sure you would always rather have someone only firing 5 shots versus 30 at you, but if you know the 5 are most likely to be carefully aimed and the 30 are just going to be spray and pray, I'm going to opt for the spray and pray.
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immattj (4042)
3 years ago
Float that idea out to the DOD.
Maybe the Armed Services will start issuing Remington 700s instead of M-4s.
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3 years ago
The military knows this, they are the ones that conducted the studies. Most bullets fired during a full blown war never hear another soldiers and have little chance of doing so.
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Satan2016 (26197)
3 years ago
The only soldiers who use bolt-actions are snipers, who trained to be accurate. Soldiers who use bolt-actions on the run are soon dead!
It's obvious you lost the argument long ago and are just trolling.
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[deleted]
3 years ago
The information from studying soldiers is applicable to non-soldiers. If you can't understand that you're more ignorant than I thought.
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