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The silver lining for the left if Trump wins...


...is that even Democrats would benefit from a better economy, better border control, better military, and so forth. Basically, if we elect Trump, Democrats benefit!

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Yes, but they will be crying too hard and retreating to their “safe spaces” to even notice!

Madonna will be working out her plans to blow up the White House and Johnny Depp will be brushing up on his John Wilkes Booth impression.

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Would depend on how many on the left (talking about The Progressives) would rather watch it burn instead.

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Except Trump left the economy as a dumpster fire

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I think that was actually the once-in-a-century episode called COVID, compounded by blue states shutting down for extreme amounts of time, but ok.

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By that you mean his once-in-a-century botched handling of the episode, and red states not shutting down fast enough which would’ve lead to faster economic recovery, but okay

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What are you talking about? IIRC, all the states shut down at the beginning of the pandemic. It's just that some blue states, and blue institutions, wanted to shut down for a very long time after.

You brought up the economy, so you need to know what happened.

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Nah, the red states cried and whined about shutting down completely and refusing to issue stay at home. And also ended their lockdowns way too early, thereby exacerbating the crisis.

You need to research what actually happened, kid.

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Do you have any basis for the conclusion you're making? Do you realize that there were more COVID deaths under Biden than under Trump?

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Again, *Rump’s fault for not shutting down quickly enough. Biden had to deal with the orange man’s fallout

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Seems like you love trying to shift all the blame you possibly can on Trump and make excuses for Democrats as much as possible. You are free to your opinion, but I don't many will believe you.

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You went from believing it was a “scandemic” staged by democrats to admitting it was a real pandemic, and still find a way to blame democrats who weren’t even in office during it. Nice fail-logic there

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Looks like you have a disagreement with others, perhaps. Here, however, you're moving toward a strawman argument.

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A strawman argument created by MAGAtards? 🤣 are you disagreeing with your base now?

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If you want to argue against something I never said, I can't exactly defend it. You'll need to find someone else to debate that point with.

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It’s what republicans said, don’t you remember?

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Go ahead and find some to debate.

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Don’t you dare raise your voice to me you little cuss

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I still don't understand how people are blaming Trump for all of that? Didn't they pay attention to the rest of the world? The US went even further with the lockdown and restrictions than here in Europe where the reaction was totally different. Most people felt the governments were going too far with their policies. When folks in the US were still crying about face masks needing to be enforced, life was already returning to normal on this continent.

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People are doing that as an excuse to blame Trump. We're in an election season, so it's only natural for this to happen. The reality is that many blue states entered prolonged closures, and I'm pretty sure that this actually helped to drag the economy down. Later, they blame Trump for the bad economy that resulted.

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It was the Dems that caused the scamdemic to stop Trump and rig the election.

It was the Dems that insisted on allowing the Chinese to enter our country after Covid started in China.

It was the lockdowns that destroyed the economy.

It was the Dems that caused and mandated the lockdowns that they wanted to last for another 12 years and destroy our country. Trump's OWS halted that lockdown and saved millions of lives.

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Plz no conspiracies. Trump destroyed the economy by dismantling the CDC department that was preparing for Covid, and encouraging people not to stay at home and that it wasn’t even real. He did that to himself.

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No conspiracies, only facts and truth. You continue to regurgitate msm talking points.

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you think blue is weird because you miss the toilet paper lines, the barren shelves, the collapsing economy, escalating inflation, the sick and dying, and record unemployment? Or is it they don’t stammer and rant in gibbering lunacy for hours at a time?

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You could add the Stimulus checks that people believe were due to a great DJT economy but were done to prevent workers and employers plunging into debt.

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So, what television shows are you a fan of anyway? I see nothing but political stuff in your posting history...

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COVID was China's response to Trump's tariffs. It's quite clear to me. We all freaked out and shut down the world's economy while China kept working and buying cheap stock. It was probably the greatest social psy-ops experiment ever.

I am not saying it was not real. It was, I had it, and it was a nasty flu indeed. But, hey, didn't we all exaggerated by closing stores, forcing people to lock themselves, and basically prohibit human contact?

Trump lost that election not to Biden, but to China.

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erm we know Trump handled it badly. Get real.

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The economy was actually pretty good under Trump.

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A "dumpster fire"? The economy was far better under Trump than it had been in many years. It started to go to hell on January 20, 2021. And don't quote crap about the stock market. It's how much stuff costs that directly affects most people, stuff like gasoline and groceries. Biden lit that dumpster fire.

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Wrong MAGAtard, US GDP had negative growth in 2020 when drumpf was in office; 2021 had a positive growth of +6% thanks to Biden

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Basic memory skills allow us to remember what happened in 2020 that accounts for those numbers.

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yes, they allow us to remember how Trump fell asleep at the wheel and crashed the car into the tree

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It's fine if you think that. The rest of us understand that a once-in-a-century pandemic causes major disruptions to an economy, so trying to blame politicians is, well, playing politics.

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Yes we can blame Trump for mishandling Covid and exacerbating the economic crisis , good job. Also his disastrous trade war with China

Doesn’t change the fact the economy was worse off under Trump ;)


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Like I said, you can believe that if you wish. The rest of us will recognize the strong economy under Trump, compared to the inflation under Biden/Harris.

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Some facts for you: Trump’s trade war cost the US a quarter of a million jobs. Biden created 16 million jobs, Trump lost 13 million. Trump added 2x as much to the national debt as Biden. Under Biden, the economy grew 9%, compared to 6% under Trump.

Btw, Biden has nothing to do with inflation. That’s controlled by the Fed and foreign events.

None of this changes the fact the economy is objectively better under Biden.

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How many times do I have to explain it to you? You are free to believe whatever you want. The rest of us will continue to recognize that the economy was strong under Trump, and then COVID hit. By the time the economy recovered, Biden was in office.

However, you are free to believe what you want.

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The economy was not strong under trump though, factually, this isn’t up for debate

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Yeah, a once-in-a-century pandemic hit, as I already mentioned.

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Doesn’t change the fact the economy was bad under Trump and improved under Biden. Democrats always have better economies.

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I've said countless times that you are free to hold that view. I disagree, though, as I don't think it is reality.

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It’s a basic fact that the economy was worse under Trump and Biden improved it. At this point you’re just delusional and refusing to acknowledge facts

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I already stated that Trump faced a once-in-a-century pandemic. This hurt the economy quite a bit. The pandemic lifted when Biden was in office. The economy recovered. End of story.

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So you’re admitting the economy was worse under Trump. Ok

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Yes, that's what I've been saying, and the cause of this was a once-in-a-century pandemic. This is why it needs to be set aside. Pre-pandemic, the economy under Trump was doing quite well, and this is all that matters.

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Well he lost again, LMAO

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No, the economy under Trump, with the exception of the pandemic, was really quite good. Harris would be disastrous for the economy. That's the reality.

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So you’re admitting the economy under t Trump was bad and worse than Bidenms okay.

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No, the economy under Trump, with the exception of the pandemic, was really quite good. Harris would be disastrous for the economy. That's the reality.

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You’re admitting the economy was bad under Trump thanks to that one “exception”. You do not get to disclude a year of his term

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Of course I get to *exclude* the year, given that it was a once-in-a-century event.

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No you don’t get to exclude it. That’s like saying the economy under Bush was great except for 2008

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Recessions are not once-in-a-century events. Global pandemics are.

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The recession was a once in a century event not seen since the Great Depression, that’s why it was called the Great Recession.

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There have been 22 recessions in the U.S. since 1900. But again, we were talking about a GLOBAL pandemic.

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And the recession was the worst economic downturn since the depression, we’re talking about a GLOBAL recession.

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I don't know why you're talking about recessions. This is about Trump's superior ability to handle an economy than Harris. Are we done here?

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Except by your own admission he failed to have a good economy. Biden was better.

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I don't know how many ways to explain it to you, but you seems really intent on whatever point you're trying to make here, but I think we're done here.

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You can’t accept fact *rump fucked up with Covid and ruined economy, tardo

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You are free to have your opinion on that, but the reality still remains that Trump did great with the economy.

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The reality is that he left office with the economy in the garbage

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Once-in-a-lifetime pandemics really hurt the economy!

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Yes and it happened during *Rump’s term. Factually, the economy was worse under him.

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It doesn't matter considering that it was an outlier event - a once-in-a-century pandemic. People understand this, but you don't seem to.

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An outlier event doesn’t negate the fact the economy was worse under *Rump

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"Negating" it is not relevant. Republicare better at handling the economy.

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Historically republicans lie and have always presided over weak economies

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You are free to hold that opinion, but I think many others disagree with you.

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It’s not an opinion, it’s objective historical fact

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You are entitled to your opinion about what is a fact.

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I’m entitled to a factual opinion based on data that says democrats have better economies

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Ok.

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Ok

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Do you know what inflation is? You're one dumb person. Have you been to a grocery store in the past 4 years?

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Inflation has nothing to do with who’s in office. You’re the one tbh at sounds dumb

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So printing endless amounts of money thru govt spending bills doesn't cause inflation? Spending money of tens of millions of migrants doesn't cause inflation? How come other nations have open borders if its good politics?

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you don’t know how inflation works, the treasury printing money and the Fed injecting it into the economy has nothing to do with the president

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LOL! You lose sucker

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Not really, this is what I wanted

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Ok cool then. The rest of the losers can move to Cuba and enjoy Communism

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Soon Cuba will overtake USA thanks to Trump

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"Biden created 16 million jobs" - And that's a lie, already debunked.

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Oh, look, a Socksss account 😂 Biden created jobs? Yeah, in the Ministry of Truth...

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It looks like facts upset you, need a tissue?

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With a name like Suckass you need the tissue, esp. on Tuesday when we bring down these far left racists who want to turn this country into a third world nation!

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He already lost kiddo,XD

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Bidentard

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Do you realize that if Hillary Clinton had won the election in 2016, that we would've never heard one word about Covid and it's true??

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Nobody with any sense believes your conspiracy theories.

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You think it wouldve been played out like another SARS bird flu? That barely registered on the Richter Scale when it happend.

fatality rate of SARS (9.5%) No lock-down. No shut-down.

fatality rate of COVID19 (2.3%) YES Lock-Down, YES Shut-Down. Excpet for Politicians of course. They werent worried about dying, weird huh?

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^ your official avatar(d)?

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They will indeed benefit...

And the whole 4 years, while benefitting, they will be protesting, rioting, and trying their best to sabotage Trump's Presidency and America and attempting to provoke Trump to use extreme solutions to stop their destruction so they can point and shriek "We TOLD you he's a fascist!"

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You fundamentally misunderstand the Left. They just want to see everything good destroyed.

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nah the only silver lining will be comedy value the continuing clown show of ineptness and stupidity

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No, leftist. That was HarrisBiden.

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Democrats are too dumb to realize that they, along with everyone else, were freer, safer, and economically better off when Trump was president.

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Trust me, they will still scream themselves to sleep, even while their bank accounts grow.

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