Useless ''actress''
Awful, talk about feminism ok'ing any crap by any female as brilliant.
sharenot entirely useless, she will at least happily jump into bed with any director who signs her
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I don't know if it's feminism or fucking directors, but I have always wondered what everyone sees in her. I don't see much talent. I, personally, don't find her attractive physically or mentally (from what I've seen in interviews).
For those who do like her - do you see talent, or just find her attractive, or both?
Since you asked a legitimate question charliekelly, I shall take the time to give you an answer.
I first noticed Kristen Stewart in 2005 when the indie film 'Speak' had its television premiere on Showtime. For someone who was only 13 when it was filmed, I thought she did a superb job in portraying a rape victim trying to struggle with the aftermath of what had happened.
This led me to take a trip to Blockbuster to rent the previous films she had been in, and I was impressed with her performances in both 'The Safety of Objects' and 'Panic Room.'
Then in 2007, I happened to see 'The Cake Eaters,' a film directed by Mary Stuart Masterson, at the Fort Lauderdale International Film Festival. In it, Kristen played a girl who was suffering from a debilitating disease of the neuromuscular system known as Friedreich's Ataxia, a disease which would eventually lead to death. Kristen was outstanding as Georgia. The film won 'The Audience Award for Best American Indie' at the fest. It is important to note that this occurred one year before 'Twilight' was released, thus there were no fans of that film in the audience. In fact, the audience was mostly comprised of those from the "silver haired generation," yet they too, judging by the questions put to Mary Stuart Masterson in the Q&A following the film, were very impressed with her performance.
Following that I saw the Sean Penn directed film, 'Into the Wild,' and again was taken by her performance. The same holds true for Kristen's work in 'Adventureland,' 'Welcome to the Rileys,' 'The Runaways,' 'On the Road,' 'Still Alice,' 'Clouds of Sils Maria' (for which she won the Cesar award - France's equivalent of an Oscar) and 'Personal Shopper.'
On the other hand, I truly disliked all the 'Twilight' films. I thought the books and the screenplays were ridiculous, which made for less than stellar films.
Finally, yes, I do think she's attractive. I also look forward to her future films like 'JT Leroy' and 'Against All Enemies.'
Great answer, I appreciate it. You took the time to name instances where I can literally go to see your point. I can tell you're a real fan.
I saw "Speak" and remember telling my girlfriend that it was the best thing I had ever seen her in. I had no idea she was 13, that's impressive.
I've never heard of "The Safety of Objects", but I have always really liked Clarkson and Olyphant, so I'll definitely check it out. I did see "Panic Room" back when it came out. I honestly don't remember it well and have been thinking about watching it again. This gives me another reason to do so. I didn't remember who played Foster's daughter.
I've also never heard of "The Cake Eaters". It looks promising though. I'll definitely watch it.
Again, just once with "Into the Wild". Loved the movie. I was so focused on Hirsch that I don't remember her in it. Another one due for a re-watch.
I wasn't big on "Adventureland", but that could just be my thing with Jesse Eisenberg. I loved him in "Roger Dodger" and "The Squid and the Whale", but after that he just stopped clicking with me for some reason. I guess she was fine in it though, as I remember. I did like "Still Alice". I don't remember being "blown away" by anyone in it, but I do remember liking Moore, as usual. Stewart's role would have been a tough one to play. Haven't seen the others either.
I actually thought the first "Twilight" was decent for that type of genre. I remember not feeling the same after seeing the second one lol. I stopped after it.
Her attractiveness is subjective, of course. I'm not some fool who's going to argue who YOU should find attractive lol. Haven't heard of those either, but I'll research 'em.
"The Safety of Objects" is definitely coming first, followed by "Panic Room" and "The Cake Eaters". I'll really pay attention to her performances. You didn't waste your time giving an intelligent answer. They are getting so rare, I genuinely appreciate it.
I have similar views as CKid. Kristen isn't the high profile type or flashy actress, instead she's more the type who thrives on challenging roles. In depth characters, characters and story lines that are often more artistic or in depth. She's received a lot of hefty praise for so many of her roles and many of her films are shown at film festivals.
I first saw her when she was a kid in Panic Room alongside Jodie Foster. Kristen did so well, showed such maturity for one so young, about 12 yo, alongside such an accomplished actress like Jodie, that I kept her in mind for what she might do as she got older. That movie is a good drama, well acted by a small cast. Safety of Objects was an ensemble story of several families. She was younger, probably ten at the oldest, and also there she showed a lot of maturity and poise for one so young. I would think many actors who do well at a young age are more mature as todo well in that kind of work probably isn't for someone who is immature.
Other movies with troubled characters or those with issues and conflict. Speak, The Cake Eaters, Welcome to the Rileys, On the Road, Clouds of Sils Maria where she won a French Cesar award which is extremely rare for a non-French actor. And others. Not a lot of Big Tent type movies for her though she's had a few - Snow White and the Huntsman for one.
Adventureland, The Runaways and other movies were fun and where showed some good talent as in The Runaways she played Joan Jett complete with using guitar and singing, and did a great job at it. As did Dakota Fanning in that movie.
You may not like her after checking some of her movies and roles and that's ok. Everyone's tastes and views differ especially on something so subjective as actors, movies and roles. But I feel she has shown a lot of good talent in many good roles.
Well, she's got great fans. No doubt about that. I'm going to do you guys (and her) justice and watch more of her stuff. I'll report back what I think, in case you might be interested. If I see greatness, I'm open-minded enough to be converted.
shareThanks for your reply to my post, charliekelly.
Meanwhile, there were two films Kristen was in that I didn't mention that I probably should have, however considering your current feelings towards Jesse Eisenberg perhaps it's better I didn't. But I'm gonna take a chance and do so anyway.
You see, 'Adventureland' was only the first time that Kristen and Jesse worked together. Years later, the two would re-team for 'American Ultra,' a truly over-the-top Action/Comedy/Sci-Fi spoof, and then 'Cafe Society,' a film by Woody Allen.
Of the two, I would definitely recommend 'American Ultra,' because it's definitely good for some laughs despite the ultra-violence, and I thought that Jesse (and Kristen) were quite good in it.
From IMDb's storyline ...
Small-town stoner Mike Howell spends most of his time getting high and writing a graphic nover about a superhero monkey. What Mike doesn't know is that he was trained by the CIA to be a lethal killing machine. When the agency targets him for termination, his former handler activates his latent skills, turning the mild-mannered slacker into a deadly weapon. Now, the utterly surprised Mike must use his newfound abilities to save himself and his girlfriend from getting wasted by the failed test subjects that are sent after him by the CIA.
Topher Grace and Connie Britton play CIA agents and John Leguizamo plays a truly bizarre character named Rose.
I think you might like Jesse in this one, but I don't think the same holds true for his starring role in 'Cafe Society.' While I thought that Kristen was excellent in it, there was something about Jesse that was off-putting for me. I guess I should also mention that Kristen has received some grief about appearing in a Woody Allen film, considering the sexual allegation complaint regarding his fondling of Mia Farrow's adopted daughter, Dylan as well as the controversy about his sexual relationship with Soon-Yi Previn when she was nineteen. share
I almost watched "American Ultra" when it came out, not really knowing anything about it. It was one of those movies that I would strongly consider, but would always end up choosing something else. Having now read the synopsis, it sounds almost like "Pineapple Express" meets "The Bourne Identity". Sounds fun.
Whether it's an actor, director, producer etc., I don't really factor in any personal life business into my feelings towards a film. I'm not going to all of a sudden not like a film that I always have enjoyed just because it came out under Weinstein. It's not that I don't care. I just feel like the efforts of many, many different people go into each and every film, and those efforts shouldn't all of a sudden be worthless just because some other person made some mistakes in life.
Not on the topic of Kristen Stewart, but just thought I'd mention, I thought The Men Who Stare at Goats was a better take on a similar topic to American Ultra. (Would watch both of them again, though.)
shareI love that movie. Just the other day, I was comparing something to the "you had like the whole desert to drive in, Lyn" moment. So, that comparison in definitely encouraging.
share"Well, she's got great fans. No doubt about that. I'm going to do you guys (and her) justice and watch more of her stuff. I'll report back what I think, in case you might be interested. If I see greatness, I'm open-minded enough to be converted. "
Charlie, thanks for discussing intelligently and respectfully. So often with actors/actresses and fans it becomes a nasty-fest.
Also, as you mention it, I'm not trying to say Kristen is great, just that I like what she does and the roles she takes on and how well she does with the work. I could say similar about many actors but Kristen is well up there for me. :)
Charlie, thanks for discussing intelligently and respectfully. So often with actors/actresses and fans it becomes a nasty-fest.
Absolutely. Yeah, it sure does. I'm not one of those people that hate for sport. I just try to be 100% honest with my opinions regarding the film industry, even if they aren't very popular. share
What's so wrong about Kristen Stewart that people talk about ?
https://www.quora.com/Whats-so-wrong-about-Kristen-Stewart-that-people-talk-about/answer/Feifei-Wang-6
When I first started to read that article, I thought it very unfair that the author (or maybe she's just the interpreter, as that's what written after her name) focused only on the Twilight films. After all, Kristen has been in 42 films thus far, and this article only talks about Twilight. Excuse me, but what about the other 37 films?
But then I kept reading and came to this passage ...
Thirdly, Twilight's Bella is written in such a way that the character is so bland, so boring, so lack(ing) of any distinctive personality that any female reader could bring herself into the story, taking the shoes of Bella, and imagine it is themselves being the object of desire of Edward and Jacob. This is most likely due to Stephenie Meyer being a 3rd grade writer who wasn't capable of writing a good character.
This what I've been maintaining for years! Namely, the Twilight books sucked; thus the screenplays sucked; and then add in that with the exception of the final film, the directing was pretty bad as well, you get all the ingredients for disappointing films. Hey, I only liked the final 45 minutes of Breaking Dawn II, as I thought the battle was pretty cool.
I have been a fan of Kristen Stewart since I saw 'Speak' in 2005. My belief in her acting abilities then increased when I saw 'The Cake Eaters' at the 2007 Fort Lauderdale International Film Festival where TCE won the Audience Award for Best American Indie, largely because of Kristen's performance. The audience, which was mostly comprised of folks from the 'silver haired generation,' was quite taken with Kristen's performance, a fact which became evident during the Q&A session with TCE director Mary Stuart Masterson following the showing of the film.
In my opinion, the only positive thing that the Twilight films have done for Kristen is that they have made her quite well off financially. It is a shame that people still seem to focus on those films and forget all the others. Ditto for some reviewers. Fortunately, a large contingent of them have moved past Twilight, which counts for her very good reviews in films like The Clouds of Sils Maria (where she won the Cesar award, France's equivalent of an Oscar), The Runaways, Personal Shopper, On the Road, Welcome to the Rileys, American Ultra, Cafe Society, Lizzie, etc., etc., etc.
And now, I look forward to seeing her in JT LeRoy, Charlie's Angels and especially, Against All Enemies. share
Did you see her in "Zathura?" That was also a very lackluster performance on her part, but then again, she was a minor character in that. Her character in that spent most of her time sleeping, or being cryogenically frozen due to a move her brother made in the game.
shareWhile I'll agree with you that she did play a supporting role in this film, her performance even in a family friendly flick such as this, she still had a quiet intensity about her and noteworthy screen presence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zltFM--MhYo
shareFor me i admit the first thing i saw her in was twilight breaking dawn part 1 i am a fan of vampires so i liked it twilight aren't the best movies made but they are enjoyable.
But what truly made me like her so much was the type of roles she chooses to do after twilight and SWATH she could've done another big budget franchise but she focused to tell stories like Camp x Ray a movie that made me think or personal shopper a movie that is so differnet than anything i have ever seen, Clouds of sils maria and hold her own infront juliette and wone Cesar among other and still alice where you could identify with her character
But the movies that made me be her fan was Speak i remember when i saw it for first time i thought i would hate it but i loved it the emotions she captured as rape victim was unbelievable also the cake eaters which is a small movie where she play a girl with Friedreich's Ataxia she blew me away and she was so believable and at that time she wasn't known and people strated asking the director where did she find a girl with that disease and can act.
Another movie was Welcome to the rylies this movie is one of my fav for her at a young age of around 18 she read the script at 16 got cast at 17 and started filming at 18 she could portray that role perfectly and she made me cry the emotions she convey are amazing.
What i also admire about her is her dedication she loves what she is doing and she always do everything to get into the character.
As for the attractiveness part as you said in another comment it's subjective but yeah i find her really beautiful and she doesnt follow the Hollywood formula of you should be perfect 24/7 she isn't none of us is perfect.
As for the mentally part i have to disagree if you watch her interviews her answers are always smart she always know what to answer and the passion she show while talking about her movies is amaizng also she has anxiety thats why she is shy in interviews
Thanks for all the info and advice. I didn't know any of that.
And when I said I wasn't mentally attracted to her, it wasn't a shot at her intelligence. I don't know anything about her in that way. I just meant the way she acted and her body language, but maybe it was just some anxiety or something. I believe it was on Letterman, the time I remember most vividly. She just seemed like she couldn't stand him and would rather be anywhere else. I just thought that, even if she hated the guy, she could've toughed out an interview, but it may have just been anxiety.
"Thanks for all the info and advice. I didn't know any of that.
And when I said I wasn't mentally attracted to her, it wasn't a shot at her intelligence. I don't know anything about her in that way. I just meant the way she acted and her body language, but maybe it was just some anxiety or something. I believe it was on Letterman, the time I remember most vividly. She just seemed like she couldn't stand him and would rather be anywhere else. I just thought that, even if she hated the guy, she could've toughed out an interview, but it may have just been anxiety."
During the Twilight craze, which was wild for all the cast especially the main cast, it was hard for them to get a handle on the notoriety. I think we usually expect actors to be able to handle all kinds of publicity, but they're just like us in coping with things and learning from it.
Kristen especially had a big focus on her given her role, lots of pressure. She was very nervous about it and it took a while for her to really become comfortable with the huge attention and pressure on her. She has said as much. I can imagine the pressure on many of them in such a big franchise with a huge fan base to get things right. She tends to be more the shy type in some ways but also shows a lot of charisma when we see her especially when she's more comfortable.
If you see her interviews before and after Twilight she's a lot more comfortable and forth coming in them. I think on that Letterman interview which was early in the Twilight series she did have a lot of trouble with it.
She's as wooden as a board in every movie she makes. Seen one KStew film you'v seen'em all. She's hot though. I'd happily impregnate her.
shareWow, full on reproduction. I respect a man who means business. Though, I'm not sure how she would feel about you after your opinion of her work.
shareI honestly don't think she even cares herself about her work.
shareWhenever someone tries to make the argument that Kristen is talentless, or "useless" as you mentioned in your OP, I always bring up the point that in 2015, she won more critical acclaim via awards from the most prestigious film critic groups in the world for her Cesar winning performance in Clouds of Sils Maria (i.e., New York Film Critics Circle, National Society of Film Critics, Boston Society of Film Critics, Los Angeles Film Critics Association) than any actor that year! Winning awards from these prestigious critics groups, especially from the New York Film Critics Circle, which is the most prestigious film critics group of them all, used to be a precursor to winning an Oscar before politics have become a major factor in determining who wins an Academy Award nowadays.
So my argument is that even if she hasn't been nominated for an Oscar, politics aside, Kristen should have won an Oscar for COSM based on being the critics darling as well as the first American actress to have even won a Cesar award, France's equivalent to the Oscar. And that's the thing, it appears she is getting more respect from top film critics and on the international stage as evidenced by her being recently chosen to be one of the judges at the 71st Annual Cannes Film Festival, instead of from her peers working in Hollywood. Hopefully, one day members of the actors' branch of the Academy recognize the talent that she is.
I like her. She's the depressing weird girl I always wanted to date in High School.
shareI like her. She's a better actress than people realise. All they want to talk about is Twilight. But nobody ever talk about the good ones.
shareAgreed. I caught her recently on the cable in the film where she is raped in high school. She does it fine there in a plot that's been done a thousand times. I was cruising thru the channels when I fell on it. I was going to stay for just a second and wound up watching it all.
shareI'm not a big of her offscreen, but she's a solid actress and has made some interesting choices. I think she get's crapped on for the Twilight Films but take them out and you have a decent film career.
For me personally her best work, Personal Shopper, Panic Room, Into The Wild, On The Road (tough to follow a famous book, but still better then many give it credit for), Adventureland, Clouds of Sil Maria, The Runaways, Still Alice, Camp X Ray, Welcome to the Rileys, Speak, Certain Women, The Safety of Objects. The Cake Eaters, Cafe Society and The Yellow Handkerchief.
Not everything she's done is great, stuff like Lizzie, Equals, American Ultra, The Messengers, Anesthesia and Twilight Films. I can understand why she went for stuff like Billy Lynn's Halftime Walk, it's directed by Ang Lee. It didn't work but she's not bad in it.
I think she's missing what her ex and co star of Twilight franchise Robert Pattinson, that stand out career defining role like he put in with Good Time (how he never got a Oscar nod for that I never know). A role that made him a must watch actor, to be fair to him he's chosen great art house directors and hasn't touch a commercial film since Twilight Films. Something Kristen hasn't done, a lot of her worse work are from those films.
I'm not a big of her offscreen, but she's a solid actress and has made some interesting choices. I think she get's crapped on for the Twilight Films but take them out and you have a decent film career.
I compiled clips from all of Kristen's feature film performances up to 2018 and put them into one video to put her entire career in a nutshell and entitled this edit, Kristen Stewart - Versatile Actress: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afA-_SmdwoI
This particular video has 97 likes and only 1 dislike, showing that YouTube members in general recognize acting talent when they see it, as a 97-to-1 like/dislike ratio is a testament to that.
Another video I uploaded I did similarly, compiling clips from all her feature film performances up to Personal Shopper and posed the very straightforward question, Is Kristen Stewart a Monotone Actress?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNIEHHEZF3U This video currently has 902 likes and 41 dislikes, still a darned good ratio, by any stretch.
In my opinion, Kristen is one of the most versatile actresses working in Hollywood as the aforementioned clips demonstrate. And her onscreen chemistry with those who star opposite her is off the charts. If only more mainstream moviegoers would give her a chance, by watching her stellar performances in indies, like you and others on this thread have previously pointed out.
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She peaked in Panic Room. lol
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