Did sanctions ever solved anything???
Plus: Biden just enforced sanctions on the newly formed republics? Not on Russia???
Ok, this is by far the worse and the weakest US President ever. Even lower than Obama on the weak scale.
Later edit: looks like I was wrong (not necessarily about Biden) and the sanctions actually might work specially because the whole world is against Putin and it's doing something against the invasion.
Sanctions dont do anything, just look at Cuba. 70 years of sanctions hasnt helped the Cuban people at all.
shareThanks, exactly my point. Maybe my question was a bit too rhetorical :D
shareProbably because they aren't meant to help the Cuban people. The opposite in fact. Cuba loses billions a year due to those sanctions, which is a lot when compared to their GDP.
shareyeah, but it hasnt changed the ruling elites minds yet. they could care less about the sanctions and all have great lives compared to the commoners.
shareI guess you don’t remember Carter….that loser was a real wimp….but Biden is not much better
shareI don't know exactly what the sanctions are but my college professor does and he told me America is showing much strength thru these sanctions and Putin will be in serious trouble if he proceeds.
shareObama was one of the strongest. He once said 'if you extend your hand in friendship, I will shake it but if you extend your hand as a fist, I will give you a billion dollars in cash'.
shareI'm genuinely curious as to what response the MAGA crowd would prefer. Troops on the ground? Nothing at all?
shareFrom a personal point of view I'm split.
My country is very close to Ukraine and I wouldn't feel that safe with Russia at my borders so I would rather see them pushed back.
At the same time I would rather not see the world dragged in a global war.
Best solution would had been an UN peace mission in those 2 regions to defuse as much as possible the situation and to drive the Russian troops (that had been there since 2014) before Putin's invasion. Maybe even a NATO peace keeping mission since NATO and Russia signed both the Budapest accord of 1994 AND the Minsk accords.
But yeah, I think that in the end the best solution would had been troops on the ground IN ADVANCE of the invasion, at the request of the Ukrainian government - I highly doubt Putin would had attacked NATO or even UN troops stationed in the area ...
You advocate for UN intervention. Great, but that isn't on Biden. The US definitely has influence on UN decisions, but the US president sure as hell doesn't control that body.
Economic sanctions and political pressure are pretty much the most any president can do without going into full scale conflict.
UN or NATO.
In both USA has a BIG part to play and a strong hand.
"Economic sanctions and political pressure are pretty much the most any president can do without going into full scale conflict." - except that the one the does that first move can do it pretty safely.
Just how Putin did the first move, if NATO would have stationed troops in Ukraine then Putin would had been the one that would initiated a full scale conflict, and I doubt he would had done it ...
If we had a strong leader nothing would really have had to have been done aside from a strong warning or perhaps sending additional military armaments to the Ukrainian boarder. The United States has done that before in order to deter Russia from invading countries in the past. Instead Biden said "Oh, it''ll just be a minor incursion, and that Russia could invade at any time." The blundering fool straight up invited Putin to invade. After Biden's Afghanistan blunder the entire world knew that they were dealing with a clueless wimp, and that they could basically do anything that they wanted, and he wouldn't stop them. Say what you want about Trump, but he knew that the best way to show strength was simply to have the most powerful military on the planet, and also for the United States to be energy independent from rival nations. Biden came in and he took out our energy independence on day one. He gave Russia a great deal of power over The United States on his first day on the job! He left our own people behind in Afghanistan, and surrendered the nation to our enemies. He put more emphasis on political correctness than he did on actual leadership. He shook his senile old fist, and threatened American citizens who didn't want to get a vaccine. He's been decisive, weak, confused and arrogant from the start. He's a total and complete failure, and the blood of the citizen's of Ukraine is on his and his voters hands! I hope you're proud of yourself.
And I'm not MAGA. I'm just someone who sees what goes on in the world and will call out stupidity, arrogance, and evil when I see it.
"Say what you want about Trump, but he knew that the best way to show strength was simply to have the most powerful military on the planet"
We still have the strongest military on earth! Not a damn thing has changed in the year since Trump left and Biden has been in office. It's crazy that you view Trump as some sort of strongman, when he's only ever had(and still does today) nice things to say about Putin. Was his aura somehow enough to deter an authoritarian from attacking?
Well, the 4 years in which Putin didn't attack prove you wrong.
You can say nice things about someone before kicking his ass ... it only makes you look stronger, still you kicked someone that's strong ...
Have you ever seen some soccer European team being interviewed???
They always boast about how the team that they will play against are strong and play well and bla bla. That DOESN'T mean that they will not try to beat them ...
Well, the 4 years in which Putin didn't attack prove you wrong.
I believe that that statement ends the argument. Any further discourse about this IS pointless. Have a good day.
That's specious reasoning if I've ever heard it. Can you point to anything in particular that Trump did?
Because I'm pretty sure this complex geo-political issue is much broader than who ass happens to occupy the Oval office!
That's exactly what he did. Peace through strength. Biden is too much of a deranged pussy to do anything to anyone. Do you not get that? He surrendered Afghanistan like a weakling. He showed the entire world that he had no strength. Why would Putin not take Ukraine when he knew that no one would oppose him. If you don't get that, that it isn't my problem. You simply do not understand human nature, and the concept of peace through strength. You are so liberal that no matter what happens you will not blame Biden for anything. You are brainwashed. You ware what Stalin called a useful idiot. I do apologize for being so harsh, but if you can't see the difference between four years of no invasions to a year of desertion, death, and a country (Ukraine)begging the U.S. for help than nothing will open your eyes. The blood of those poor people is on your hands. You are a part of this. It was your blindness that added to this. People are dead, a country has been taken over as a result of your (YES YOU) actions. Welcome to my ignore list, and may God have mercy on you when it's your time to die.
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