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I find it difficult to believe Amber Heard lied.


And I'm all for men's rights and against this ridiculous notion that women never lie about sexual abuse or domestic violence.

But this just doesn't pass the smell test. She couldn't have invented all that testimony. It looked legit to me and Depp's lawyers used badgering and legal gimmicks to confuse her.

This is another case of wealth and celebrity privilege trumping justice.

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Do I think Heard lied? Yes. I don't think someone who has/had substance abuse issues can always recall things clearly. But I don't believe everything she said was a lie; I don't think anyone would go to court and lie about every single event that occurred, especially considering how humiliating some of the things she revealed were.

Do I think Depp assaulted her? Yes. It's odd because I remember there being a fair amount of photographic evidence in 2020 of her many bruises when the UK case was still ongoing. But whether or not they came forward, Depp's abuse of his former partners was one of those known but rarely discussed secrets. For example, Kate Moss denies that Depp ever assaulted her; yet he paid $10,000 in "criminal mischief" charges relating to an incident where he allegedly pushed her down a flight of stairs. If he was innocent, as Moss claimed, I don't understand what exactly he was paying for.

Do I think Heard retaliated? Yes. I even believe that she instigated some of their fights. If you've ever known two drug addicts who were in a relationship, you know that abuse becomes the norm for both, whoever the dominant abuser is. What's interesting to me is how most of her attacks took place at a distance - in that she threw things at him. And according to Ellen Barkin, Depp was also prone to throwing things at her. So at the very least, we can conclude they likely attacked each other in the same way.

I don't know who is more guilty, I just know that all of this information suggests neither is innocent.

I partly agree that this is a case of wealth and celebrity privilege trumping justice. But more than that, I think the entire US case was a popularity contest, since people were rooting for Depp's exoneration from the beginning. The fact it was televised heavily fed into that.

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Ellen Barkin testified on video that Johnny Depp was arguing with "his people", NOT her, and during that argument he threw a wine bottle across the room that landed in her vicinity. That's what she said, on video, for the judge and the jury to hear, a taped deposition. She is the only female that Johnny has fucked that has said anything negative against him that I've known of. Don't know why she even bothered unless it's because she was bitter that he dumped her.

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You can be bitter about a relationship and still be honest about the details of that relationship - a lot of people are bitter about how things turn out at the end of a relationship. If I was in a marriage where my partner left me for a younger woman/man or cheated on me, I'd be bitter as hell, but that bitterness wouldn't make them less of a cheater.

And also, what do you think drives a person to throw a bottle across a room? Would it potentially be anger? Was he potentially still trying to make Barkin feel threatened? Wouldn't anyone feel scared if someone threw a bottle across a room in a fit of rage while they were alone with you? Whether it had anything or nothing to do with Barkin doesn't matter. And like I said, just because she was the only one who opened up about his bad behaviour, doesn't mean she was the only one who experienced it. Kate Moss took a tumble down the stairs and Depp paid for that with thousands of dollars, despite Moss claiming he was innocent. Doesn't add up.

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She didn't invent all of her testimony. Just large chunks of it

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The funny pattern I’ve noticed is that those that defend Heard barely watched the Trial, if they watched it at all.

Those that did watch it know that Heard was a serial abuser and a sociopathic liar.

Yes, Heard made the whole thing up. She has borderline personality disorder as confirmed by the psychiatrist that evaluated her and testified. Heard showed no signs of PTSD and all the signs of being a sociopath.

In the end, Depp had everything going against him. The media certainly was against him as they rode the Metoo wave.

It was only until Heard’s allegations were finally scrutinized and people were allowed to see the process for themselves that public opinion quickly turned to Depps favor.

He won and won big.

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I think they are as bad as each other and provoked one another to get the worst aspects of each other's personalities.

That said I love how the media and the SJW's think that just because a woman makes an accusation it has to be true.

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But SJW's were torn on this one because Depp is an SJW himself. They don't stand on their own principles when one of their darlings is involved. I just sensed a media smear against Heard. If this hadn't have been Depp they would have supported Heard.

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Probably although Heard really didn't come off well in court. It would take a lot to bring Depp down. Someone a lot more popular than Heard.

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So yeah, it's like a popularity contest. The whole trial was a media scam. That's why I have no respect for the verdict.

Maybe Heard is the real abuser. Maybe it's Depp. I just don't buy the circus. Why was that trial even public?

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That's why I have no respect for the verdict

So you have no respect for the jurors who made the decision based on the evidence at hand. It is a good job no one cares what you think isn't it.

Why was that trial even public

If you had watched the trial and the build up you would know why it was televised. The Judge allowed it, Depp wanted it so everyone could see the truth. We all did and saw how terrible Amber Heard was, we all heard the tapes, we heard what was said and the right verdict was given.

You seem to have an issue with men defending themselves against an abuser. Why is that.

And I'm all for men's rights and against this ridiculous notion that women never lie about sexual abuse or domestic violence.

But this just doesn't pass the smell test. She couldn't have invented all that testimony

This is from your opening post. How can you say that women can lie and then say she couldn't have made it up. Why couldn't she have done so. Women lie for financial gain all the time. It happens in all apsects of life from the very rich to the bottom of the ladder fighting over child custody. Her stories didn't match testimonies and evidence so the only conclusion is she lied and fabricated details. She was found in the wrong for defamation and rightly so, what is wrong with that. The more men speak out the better.

A woman can ruin a mans life and never ever lift a finger.

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Again, I have no dog in this fight. I honestly do not care about these self-entitled celebrities and their love lives. I think they're both guilty. 🤣

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And yet you made a thread. lol

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Because I hate celebrity worship. And Amber Heard may be the bitch from hell. But no way I think this Depp character is any better than Amber Heard because fools swoon over him.

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Women making shit up during divorce are destroying themselves. No wonder men don't believe in marriage anymore. Why get married when your wife could financially destroy you after divorce?

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Amber Heard lied a lot, but I'm sure some of what she said was true. She's still a POS

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I think thats a fair assertion. I would like to also know if you have ever known a woman? Because as everyone knows they are the truthiest ppl ever. 😹

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https://twitter.com/cocainecross/status/1553506807766663169?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1553506807766663169%7Ctwgr%5Ec56292cb52ef4b9a0eab1f548221b074e94a4673%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fimdb2.freeforums.net%2Fthread%2F307941%2Fdepp-unseal-court-immediately-regret
https://news.yahoo.com/unsealed-johnny-depp-v-amber-153241949.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

The gist of it:

* Johnny's got a limp dick.

* Johnny submitted manipulated photographs of his “injuries” with altered metadata.

* Johnny manipulated audio tapes of arguments between him and Amber, and refused to provide recordings that weren’t edited or altered.

* Johnny hid evidence of his lawyer, Adam Waldman, intimidating a witness into signing a pre-written declaration that she never saw any injuries on Amber.

* Johnny blocked a declaration from his former agent, Tracey Jacobs, which stated his “drunk and stoned” behavior during the filming of Pirates 5 infuriated Disney executives and that they vowed to no longer put up with him.

* Johnny attempted to have sealed his declaration that Amber Heard did NOT cause him any “specific physical or mental injury”.

* Johnny blocked testimony from his own expert witness that concluded Amber Heard’s photos of her injuries were NOT edited and had accurate metadata. Instead he focused on 2 differently colored versions of the same image to imply she faked them.

* Johnny (who owns a private island) had evidence sealed of him being sued for various labor violations by his own employees.

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None of that really changes anything. A lot of that is just speculation. Others are simply not relevant.

The article is actually not as bad as the way you portray it in the bullet points.

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