>Following your logic, we couldnāt take action against foreign agents leaking our secrets to their governments, as theyād merely be āexpressing themselves.ā
Free speech even within the USA is not absolute, even though it's by far the most expansive.
But I'm not even sure at this point what you consider a violation of free speech. It's not arresting people for what they say, or how they express themselves, or for their identity. It seems you just excuse any restrictions you support as somehow magically not counting.
>Even worse, if they're doing it privately, then targeting them would be an invasion of their privacy and an attack on their personal freedom. By the same standard, we wouldnāt be able to stop communist infiltrators who, as foreign agents, spread propaganda to destabilize our society and undermine our institutions. They, too, would simply be expressing their views.
You're not saying anything daring. State intrusion into people's private chats and interactions is indeed met with a lot of concern by lots of civil rights organisations.
And you referring back to the McCarthyism moral panic era as if it actually isn't something scrutinised now is quite strange.
>Thatās partly true. I love the Western world as it was ā especially in the ā90s and earlier.
No, you hate it even then. You hate the post-war western world. People weren't being rounded up and arrested en mass in the 1990s for being considered too progressive, or 'woke' or liberal.
>I hate it. It's deteriorated to the point where the very fabric of society is unraveling. Here I am persuaded by Alexander Dugin's argument against liberalism where he argues that liberalism, while initially valuable for freeing individuals from oppressive structures, has an inherent drive to push boundaries endlessly, and this ultimately destabilizes society. Liberalism, by constantly liberating people from every tradition, value, and even biological identity like gender, eventually leads to a kind of emptiness or nihilism, and as result we end up with a fractured society (This is what we see today). And this
Alexander Dugin is possibly the worst fucking person you could name here to somehow back up your point. Dude hated the western world in the 1990s. Dude fucking hates the western world now and fantasises about Russian dominance over Europe. He's basically the ideologist for Rashism. Your rejection of liberalism in itself is fundamentally a rejection of the western world. You hate free speech.
I reiterate you have more in common with Iranian Mullahs, and Saudi Arabian clerics. You are ideologically closer to the Islamists who can't integrate into the UK that you are any native born European or American.
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