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Did feminism create the opposition women of itself??


Durring the last gradual increase of toxification of feminism, I have noticed the increase in women creating the exact opposite of feminist in accentuating the female parts:
- much much longer eye lashes
- much much bigger lips
- extreme defined eyebrows - there are kiosks in MALLS doing this now, where there never was before
- extreme amplifcation of ass, not just workouts and injections, but large padding inserts
- less and less clothing, also to the point of dressing like a whore being accepted and common
- breasts of course, but that was always a thing

I'm seeing more and more of women - EVEN LIVE, PERSONALLY IN PUBLIC AROUND ME - quadrupling up on these "additions" as a display of being even MORE FEMININE, and sort of working against the basics of feminism.

Is my summation accurate?

Is feminism working AGAINST females in the attraction of mate selection which is forcing this hand?

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Is feminism working AGAINST females in the attraction of mate selection which is forcing this hand?


I thought that feminism was partly not giving a fuck what men think about how we look? Feminism is about having equal rights and opportunities. That includes freedom of expression of sexuality. If it makes them feel more empowered, or beautiful, good for them. If they end up regretting them, that's a part of life.


But as to your point, I wouldn't think that any of the things you mentioned have anything to do with actual feminism. They are just current trends. Both men and women take part in current fashion trends. Like it, or don't like it. If you don't like women with what you mentioned, don't date one. It's pretty simple.

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As a man, I see the ramp up of over the top attraction additions, paralleling the ramp up of the over the top feminism.

As one camp barks out "WE don't NEED MEN at all, we're just as good and equal" (lie), the rest of females seem to be going, "that doesn't help my time limited narrative, so I have to misdirect away from that with MORE eye catchers" to recapture attentions turned off by the feminists.

At least that is what I, a man, am SEEING, personally. Online and locally.
Trends are one thing - she puts on longer eye lashes, therefore, "I" have to put on longer eye lashes to compete for views.... or "likes", whatever they think is important.
To me these lashes look very cartoony or clown like, UNLESS they are very subdued and look more natural.

And how is the trend working? If the stats I see are correct, there are more SINGLE women now than ever (we dont need men), and even more on mental meds to cope in life (because this way isn't making us happier).

I don't think this trend helps much.

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Any female who is shouting that "we don't need men at all" is sexist, not feminist.

Sslssg explained perfectly what feminism is.
Equal rights for all essentially.

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I do know what REAL feminism was (sort of still is) but it has mutated badly into this man hate crap.

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.... In America.

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that's fair. :)

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NO...IT ISN'T

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BULLSHIT...THAT'S LIKE SAYING CATHOLICISM HAS MUTATED INTO PEDOPHILIA...SMALL THOUGHTS,BUDDY.

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"If it makes them feel more empowered, or beautiful, good for them."

https://www.theonion.com/women-now-empowered-by-everything-a-woman-does-1819566746

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You know, as funny as that was, if the small little mundane things makes anyone feel more confident and empowered, I don't really see an issue. One's opinion of themselves is usually the harshest one out there.

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No, those women are just expressing themselves.

Many female actors will show up to events or do photo shoots in much more revealing things than they wore in some of their movies, but this is a choice. They should be able to express themselves without men "checking them out".

A woman's fashion choices are not an invitation for men to sexualize and objectify them!

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I actually love this answer.

It will make for a good discussion if continued on an adult level.

There are some indisputable commonalities that exist in this world, things like LIGHT and DARK, HOT and COLD, many others, and there is also SEXUAL and NOT SEXUAL.
Common sense dictates we have to operate on the same page for those. Except for one off, anecdotal personal interests*, there is a general concensus that showing MORE skin IS, in fact, sexual.

So, people and actors "expressing themselves" will be activating intrinsic instincts REGARLESS of whether they choose to believe it is sexual or not. Fashion doesn't matter when more skin turns guys on at a primal level, like it, admit it or not.
In my life experience, every woman that does that completely knows and understand that whether they admitted it or not... IE friend just EXPRESSING HERSELF, visited a bar with with the full intent of getting laid... but, she was just dressing to "Express herself" not to be sexy. Yeah... um, no. She knew what she was doing, saying the bullshit "I'm just expressing myself" was the opposite of her reality. And it worked, she knew it would, it was on purpose.

Women's fashion choices invite sexual objectification if those choices are dressing sexually. Tight red dress, instead of burlap sack. "I'm expressing myself" with my boobs hanging out. Yeah right. Pull the other one.


* personal interests or fetishes should be mentioned in a broad, general topic discussing a majority perspective.

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Men are allowed to "check women out" whenever they please. And yes if you dress a certain way we will objectify you and sexualize you. You will never stop this so don't even try. You will not control what we think and do.

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WOMEN TRYING TO LOOK NICE AND FEMINISM HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ONE ANOTHER....IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU SEE A LOT OF PRETTY LADIES THAT YOU DON'T TALK TO AND HAVE PUT FEMINISM IN THE BLAME CHAIR TO MAKE YOURSELF FEEL BETTER.

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YEAH...THAT MAKES ZERO SENSE,KIDDO...TRY HARDER.

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Ok , fag. I deleted that post. Happy now?

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NO...NOT REALLY.

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my god.
what does THIS "self expression" tell you? wow

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BZDA0NzM2YWEtZjgwZS00Y2YwLWE4ZjMtNjU1OGRkOGY4NDc2XkEyXkFqcGc@._V1_.jpg

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THAT YOU HAVE SOME PERSONAL ISSUES AND YOU HAVE TWISTED THEM INTO THE WORLD'S ISSUES.

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What the hell is that? Kowalski's mom no doubt.

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WE HAD HIGH HOPES FOR YOU...ENJOY THE CESSPOOL.

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Your Mom is ugly. We had high hopes. Who are we?

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YOU INSPIRE A LOT OF FACEPALMS.

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Dammit, I inspire face palms. I can't remember the last time I wasd 90'd

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Feminism is a public display of women shooting themselves in the foot.

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well put.

I'm all for equal opportunity and junk, but men and women will never be indentical.

I like the joke where a wife sees the husband come home after a hard 12 hours shift, beat down, tired, depressed, and she thinks, "I want THAT job!" :D

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Dude, anyone with minimal anatomical training will spot a tranny. Look for the line backer shoulders.

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It’s called fashion trends and the Kardashianization standard of beauty.

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Do you understand the link between fashion trends and sexuality?

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The unintended consequence of Feminism is men learning how to cook, be more house proud, iron clothes, and generally finding other interests other than women.

Feminism has put women out of business. Cue the "Where have all the good men gone" threads that pop up on social media.

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Feminism has put women out of business.



LMAO😂


SOMEBODY FORGOT TO TELL EVERYONE...EXCEPT YOU.

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I'm into future tech, and ran across those rubber sex robots, now with sensing and feedback AI. prices are dropping too, due to sales.

Things are about to get interesting.

But no crazy 4 inch length eye lashes, or HUGE ass implants will EVER turn me on enough to ever remotely look at them as a place to donate my seed. no thank you, sir! Their way over the top of reality just looks frighteningly stupid. Not even sexy. To me anyway. Looks clown gross.

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Cue the "Where have all the good men gone" threads that pop up on social media.


Ummmm....everything you mentioned is something that I would consider a trait of a good man.

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Sure but my point was that those things traditionally are the reasons men sought out relationships. My grandfather couldn't cook anything beyond an egg on toast probably and he wouldn't have known how to use the washing machine. It's like the reason women traditionally sought out men to provide for them.

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So now we can seek each other out because we actually like the person and want to spend our lives with them. Bummer.

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That doesn't seem to happen often though. Relationships and marriages don't last too long anymore. People just seek the physical aspect mostly.

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It's a shame those people don't find a deeper connection.

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I agree, the world doesn't seem wired like that anymore.

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I beleive this is new wiring from media and social, "YOU CAN DO BETTER" ism. don't you think?

People used to be content, not worry about the greener grass... now that grass is shoved at our eyes 24/7 on our phone. All women want the 1%, houses, boats, cars, protection, all men want porn stars. Generalizing, of course.

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That goes back to the whole Feminism discussion. Men and women are different but Feminism (originally) stated that women are equal to men. Now Feminism says women are superior to men. Men and women compete for work now whereas in the past they did not, each sex played their own role in a marriage.

Also doesn't help that people (especially women) go into marriages with the thought if it doesn't work they can get divorced - never enter a contract where one person is rewarded for breaking it.

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following this same parallel line... I'm reading more women than ever before.... like a full 1/5 or 1/4, are on mental health medications?

if so, is this all really panning out well for them? seems like no.

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For decades now there have been women saying they just want the traditional life, marriage and stay home and look after the kids. The problem is when women entered the workforce in large numbers and took on male roles they also drove wages down due to the increase in supply to the labour market.

So the days of an average working man being able to support his wife and kids plus pay off a decent house are long gone. Women now have to work to support their husbands and they put the kids in day care which costs even more.

How many own goals can these ladies kick?!

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but.... they are happier now, right? Isn't this what they wanted?


I love that joke:

Women watch men work 10-12 shifts every day, come home beat, and drained, and the women say, "I want THAT work!" :D

Well, here you go! Enjoy! :D

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So the days of an average working man being able to support his wife and kids plus pay off a decent house are long gone. Women now have to work to support their husbands and they put the kids in day care which costs even more.


So you blame women for that, and not things like the deregulation of the finance industry, money going CEOs and shareholders over workers, union density, or outsourcing?

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What if all the social revolutions really just decimated the old ways and allowed all the greed and corruption you speak of?

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If you can explain how I'd be happy to listen.

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he did that in the above paragraphs

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Um no. He did not explain how women joining the workforce were responsible for any of the examples I provided, or explained how they could have prevented in a workforce of only men.

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ah I see. you ae seeking specific answers to related items, and not global gneralities of the overall space changes.

i forget what that is called

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Women have always been in the workforce. So I'm still waiting for examples.

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the thread died so that only proves we are wrong.

or got bored and moved on :P :D

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I don’t really know what you’re getting at. Beauty standards in society have always been toxic but that doesn’t negate feminist ideals.

All I can say is that the women in my life are exceptional people and the Andrew Tate routine is disrespectful to them and just a bit boring now.

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the parrallel activity line of pronounced feminism, along side the "fashion" of looking more like a porn star/whore over just sexy.

as "we dont need men" femism ramps up, so did the ho look.

one camp turning off men, makes the other camp scramble working harder to attract them even more (whore look).

It's super obvious to me. Wondered if others have also noticed. Seems not.

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I think you’re drawing an incredibly long bow there. Fashion has been slutty since Madonna masturbated her way into our hearts onstage in the 80s. Anyway, isn’t there a strong argument to be made that dressing as provocatively as you like is the absolute definition of fuck-you feminism? Many people find it empowering to celebrate their sexuality without consideration of those who judge you or call you a whore for it. Personally, I hate the injected lip guppy fish mouth look that seems popular these days, but that’s a fad and if I don’t like, I don’t partake, simple as that. If it makes a beautiful girl happy to show her body off on socials then I’m certainly not objecting, nor am I thinking she doesn’t deserve to be respected or paid the same wage as me because I might think her photo is sexy.

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Thank you for replying.
"isn’t there a strong argument to be made that dressing as provocatively as you like is the absolute definition of fuck-you feminism? "

yes, from THAT SIDE of the group. But, what I am driving at is that modern feminism on the one side, is driving the other side to over compensate. What I am seeing anyway.

I don't mean FEMENISTS are dressing out and injecting everything, overhyping sexual, I mean they are causing the over compesation on the other side to make up for what feminism is destroying: female sexuality "WE WANT TO BE MEN" (although no one knows WHY they want to be men...just BE "men" if you want to... another current trend... but what a sad low to want to sink to be men :D )

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