Why do people whine about electric vehicles? hear me out...

true, I agree with the forced part, but we are hypocritically avoiding the point, when we all drive gas cars, many own private jets, we buy food in throw away plastic containers, and Ferraris exist. As does Lotus, Bugatti (man, those things get horrible mileage!) Koenigegg, etc etc ... not for everybody. Neither is the electric car. Yet.

I'm literally neither for or against electric cars, but I bet in 50 years everyone prefers them. After they are mass produced and improved, faster, quiter, great range, cheaper to maintain... by progressive kids that are smarter than us.

Now that I think about it... everyone bitched about buying new HD 1080 televisions too. Now, here we are. :) And now most TVs are 4K and nobody whines about it. We adapt and move forward. :)

Dont your new bulbs use a lot less power (and therefore money) though ?

Call me crazy, but I actually prefer the yellow tint it would give off in my house from the older bulbs.

I'm not into silly conspiracy stuff, but there has been electric push back for decades. I know a few people who ride that narrative wave for all they can, never doing any research for themselves on the topic, just parrotting what they are told - all the down sides, none of the good... like my post mentions COMPLETELY IGNORING the way normal cars operate right now, and thier negative impact on life.

If yu were an investor, and one team made you quadtrillions, and the other that could take that down, makes 10s of hundreds, which would you bank on and try to keep alive? Obviously the quadtrillion making one. Drop seeds of fail into the open heads of moron public who eats and parrots everything... propaganda complete.
Like I said, I personally know people who help to push the nonesense for investment profits.

Forcing on people: happens all the time and will continue.
Currently, my town is FORCING regulations of fireworks. There's a tiny loud minority that wants to blow them up now, anytime they feel like it. THEY don't want to be forced. It pisses the rest of us off, trying to sleep, getting up early for jobs ETC.... the QUIET MAJORITY pushes for less time frame to do fireworks.....

who is right and who is wrong? The Majority will push government to FORCE those people to stop it. Or pay dearly for it.
What is the option? Go KILL whomever is firing off fire works?? Is that a good solution?
Force Happens.

Agreed

I'm all for moving away from burning fossil fuels eventually but I don't think EV's as they currently exist are a viable alternative.

Those are real problems and they will be eventually solved. Remember what cell phones and computers were like 20 years ago? Now imagine what electric cars will be like 20 years from now.

I know several people who own Teslas and other EV's - they certainly aren't in the very rich category.

bottom line is society WILL control you. does already now for the greater good of everyone. we've put in restrictions for pollution, laws for speeding and lines on roads, littering laws, cali has a NO TOP OFF gas law, Vegas has NO DUST DRIVING days.... all these things, LIKE IT OR NOT, are for the betterment of everyone, GENERALLY decided by everyone via elected officials.

not saying gov is the best, but GENERALLY, it works ok and there is not a better system or it would have taken over by now.
And I am not political. I hate politics, but recognize the utility.

Also not an elec owner, nor care, but they have way less parts to break, are faster, quieter - its all still too new so there are growing pains.
TV replaced the live stage play, Microwave replaced open fire, car replaced horse, etc etc things evolve when they are better.

prices will drop with acceptace. it always works like that,

so, it's more about the forcing, not whether ECars are good or bad?
Then, why isn't that the gripe, and not this or that feature or shortcoming of eCars?

no one can FORCE you to buy something you can't afford. they can't sell these cars to everyone, until they are affordable.
maybe stations will swap out battery or hydrogen cell instead of fill up, and only take 9 seconds. I don't know.

NOW I read some are vandelizing charging stations???? What the hell is wrong with people?

“Because most people can't afford electric cars.”

Most cars in the UK are about 20K 🤷‍♂️

Ironically, I’m not a fan (yet).

I was going to say the same in my response. This 100% should have been posted in the politics board.

They are good enough in colder climates. Busses are in such a minority that they should not be mentioned. The EV capital of the world is Oslo. A cold city that has days with less than 0 degrees Fahrenheit within a year. Much colder cities and towns like Tromso and Alta also has a lot of Electric cars.