I'm still not too worried, although various organizations have made good arguments as to why "lethal autonomous weapons" should be concerning. Perhaps I should care more as well, but it's hard to take seriously.
shareNo, I'm just worried about them overtaking too many jobs.
shareYeah, that's also an issue.
share"I'm just worried about them overtaking too many jobs."
I cant wait for that .
We are currently stuck in a world full of automation and yet we have not adjusted the money/work/live system to account for this .
So despite all the automation we currently have we still work all day nearly every day .
We need to get to the "robot monkey butlers handing us drinks on the beach" stage .
If told a farmer 100 year ago you had a 500 bhp tractor that could do the work of 100 men and plough a field in an hour - he'd be pretty dissapointed to learn that we have still found work to do dawn till dusk every day
While it would be great for us to have more time in our lives, less work means less money.
shareno it doesent , thats what got to change
if we lived in a world where robots did everything for us , including mainintaing and building robots ,
and there was literally zero work for anyone to do ...
then the work=money=food system would have to change yes?
so whilst we are no where near that and never will be , whatever those chnages are need to come in to compensate for the work robots and other machines are doing now .
I refer you again to my tractor example
Robots can't do all the jobs. No one is going to want to watch robot baseball players, have robot babysitters, robot food testers. Someone is going to have to buy robots to do the work too and there are going to want to make profit with them.
Here is a graph of human professions that are actually increasing:
https://assets.weforum.org/editor/Afzetdn6vGev4geJM8vKIVwWxRVEq7YDt04QBdGkHAs.jpeg
I never said they would , in fact i clearly said "we are no where near that and never will be"
The point is as a society we need to take rearrange the system so that we dont all work 40 hours per week - other wise whats the point of any kind of automation?
We're a pretty adaptable species.
People worried about disposable jobs many times in the past and we are still going.
Computers replacing accountants and adding machines... we adapted, everything's fine.
Fax and email taking over paper mail... which took over horse delivery. And we're fine.
The wheel and cars taking over horses, and were fine.
We adapt, adjust, the whiners slowly pass away, and the next generation is fine.
TV to over cinema, fine.
HD took over TV, all fine.
Streaming taking over theaters... well adjust.
Same with robots taking some jobs.
I've been reading in usa some big places are backing off self check out. Sometimes things don't work like we wish, we adapt adjust and still plod along fine.
I hope we can adapt, but companies will always be looking for the cheaper option.
shareI fully agree, but companies know they will close down fast if all of society is jobless and can't pay to buy their products. no paid employees, no money, no market no demand, game over. we'll sort it out when the time comes.
shareI'm sort of worried, but the robots might kill us in other ways, some say they already started.
In movies like The Terminator (1984) the AI robots are anthropomorphized into killer cyborgs/robots that function similar to how humans function, but the real threat may not be from machines that resemble humans. There is preliminary evidence suggesting that the robots which could harm us are already present in the form of industrial machinery in warehouses and factories. These machines are performing tasks traditionally done by humans, potentially leading to despair among the workforce.
The decline of manufacturing employment is frequently invoked as a key cause of worsening U.S. population health trends, including rising mortality due to “deaths of despair.” Increasing automation—the use of industrial robots to perform tasks previously done by human workers—is one structural force driving the decline of manufacturing jobs and wages....Disaggregating by cause, we find evidence that automation is associated with increases in drug overdose deaths, suicide, homicide, and cardiovascular mortality..."
Yeah, there should be some sort of thing to alleviate the effects of automation....maybe something like universal basic income?
shareAll the studies I've read on this topic — and I've read a lot — suggest that mitigating the adverse health effects and increased mortality due to structural economic changes caused by automation will necessitate some form of income support. This could involve expanding existing programs or implementing new ones, such as a universal basic income (UBI).
What's concerning is that it's already happening and will only intensify. We're going to see it get worse in our lifetimes.
or get better - if they sort the admin/econamoy/system-as-a-whole out .
Its amazing to me that we've managed to turn "machines doing our work for us" into a "bad thing"
I believe the end game is that robots do all the work and we can do whatever we want.
Who will fix the robots? Other robots and people like my friend who would love a life of fixing things like that.
No money needed. Robots make all the food, all the toys we like, and society restructures about helping people do things that bring purpose and happiness.
That would be great, and then we could all pursue our passion projects without worrying if we can make enough money to survive at it. I hope that's what happens, but I'm skeptical.
shareYeah. There's always down sides and change is usually not everyone's strong suit. But based on our evolutions over history, we'll get there.
Whatever it is, it will be normal and okay for the future people....
The same way having a communications computer in you pocket seemed like insane demonic witchcraft to people 300 years ago but is normal to us.
Yes. I want to see a future with Killbots.
Make Chopping Mall a reality.
I love that movie lol.
Have you seen these guys? They look so much like Chopping Mall. I'm pretty sure they're harmless.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQU5zcPTXOs
That thing would be so easy to tip over. Maybe it is weighed to bobble back up, you could tip, than roll it into your pickup truck
shareI want Rosey The Robot from The Jetsons, I'm tired of washing dishes, sweeping floors and dusting the mantles!
A Mossberg should be enough to handle Rosie if she gets any big ideas.
No, I’m relying on them to put down the zombie apocalypse.
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