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As Christianity fades, so does societal structures

posted a year ago by Ticketsplease (4024)
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1950s culture was the following:

Get married young
Have children whose parents are legally wed
Work Monday-Friday, keep Saturday free and make Sunday religious with a church visit and family meal

Society had a structure, basically built around Christian morals and obligations.

The 1960s saw the start of this being chipped away at.

Marriage started to decline, children born out of wedlock increased, particularly in the black community.

The weekend got chipped away at as well, as retail trading hours increased, eventually seeing Sunday trading becoming common place, pushing more people out of the home and into their job.

As working hours spread over basically a 7 day roster, families become more fragmented.

The Sunday gatherings become less doable.

The homosexuals further chipped away with the notion of marriage as well, saying that they can refine the union to have no biological structure at all.

Now marriage is not based on a biological union.

Weddings are just a big "let's make it official" party, often with offspring in attendance.

Add quick, no fault divorce to the proposition, and legacy rules like men having to pay "spousal support" to a cheating wife, and the proposition is less and less appealing, especially to men.

Now we have ended up with younger generations who either don't want to get married and have kids, or simply can't afford to, given the emphasis on economic growth instead of societal protectionism.

I argue that Christianity didn't create social confines, more like social structure, and strength, allowing people to blossom.

[–] [deleted] a year ago

I don't think it's Christianity. I do think a society without a dominant culture may be doomed. You don't find many of the problems we have in the U.S. and Europe in countries where there is one, overwhelmingly dominant culture.

[–] AndyKing1967 (39852) a year ago

Well done for successfully including racism, homophobia, sexism and misogyny in one thread, however, I have to deduct points for not mentioning trans people or shoe horning politics into it - 7.5/10

[–] moviechatterer (16326) a year ago

i'd give it 6 , he missed the whole "woke" thing with associated buzzwords .
I barely half filled my "ranting idiot phrases" bingo card

[–] AndyKing1967 (39852) a year ago

I was caught in a good mood.

[–] Ticketsplease (4024) a year ago

Yes, the fall in Christianity has allowed groups, previously considered to be perverts, to speak their voices and normalize their behavior.

It went from "we just want to be treated equally" to "if you don't use my preferred pronouns you should be fired and possibly charged with a hate crime."

The trans movement has caused so much problems for society, particularly schools and female sports.

All due to people rejecting Judeo-Christian beliefs of gender and gender roles.

[–] moviechatterer (16326) a year ago

googled it :

The term Judeo-Christian is used to group Christianity and Judaism together, either in reference to Christianity's derivation from Judaism, Christianity's recognition of Jewish scripture to constitute the "Old Testament" of the Christian Bible, or due to the parallels or commonalities in Judaeo-Christian ethics shared by the two religions.

Wow thats some hardcore Old Testament stuff.
plagues of frogs , human sacrifice .

What are the gender roles ? Women stay in the bedroom under a sheet or they get the birch ?
just curious

The trans movement has caused so much problems for society, particularly schools and female sports.
this is a tiny tiny issue (head count wise) that conservatives like to imagine is the bifggest problem facing them.

Especially the sports bit . there are virtually no trannies competing as women , and nobody supports them doing it.

[–] moviechatterer (16326) a year ago

I'm confused , are you saying this is a good or a bad thing?

[–] 123Guy (7840) a year ago

what drives ALL these changes? someone makes a PROFIT, more than before.

"Family LAW" is not about making families work, it's about breaking them apart for more profit.
(No, I have not been remotely close to this personally, but it is easy to see as an outsider)

[–] OnanTheBarbarian (13171) a year ago

A strong argument can be made that Christianity caused the decline and fall of the Roman Empire. I mean we've all heard of the orgies and debauchery of ancient Rome. That was before Christianity became the official religion of course.

In 312 AD Emperor Constantine converted the Roman Empire to Christianity. It had been strong for centuries before, first as a Republic. And then as Imperial Rome in 27 BC.

476 AD is regarded as the Fall of the Roman Empire. Christianity killed it.

[–] R_Kane (15828) a year ago

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[–] 123Guy (7840) a year ago

it's so cute when people claim it's all for the better.
when it is, quite clearly, and obviously the opposite.
people are becoming intolerably dumb.

still hoping Gates perfects his "sterlize the stupid" virus functional before I die.

[–] Furienna (3377) a year ago

While I partly agree with you, let's remember that everybody in your idealized version of the 1950s wasn't happy.
Both my parents were bullied in their school buses and had mothers who were hospitalized for depression.
And then, we have to think about the kids and women who were abused and got less help than they would today.
And if the parents did divorce, that would be stigmatizing for the kids as well.

We have no such thing as alimony in Sweden, so I don't get how it still exists in the US in the 21rst century.
Over here, we simply get a job or go on wellfare and don't even dream about that an ex-husband will support us.
Really, it is maybe fair if the man wants the divorce and his wife has been a faithful stay-at-home-mum.
But it's mad that American women can act however they like and still be supported by an ex-husband in 2023.