"Remorseless" child rapist, 16 years old at the time, who brutally murdered 6 year old girl is hospitalised after a prison beating which "left his front tooth through his lip".
Link: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10880305/amp/Remorseless-child-killer-Aaron-Campbell-20-hospitalised-brutal-attack-fellow-inmate.html
Yeah, these sorts of evil crimes should just get the full life sentence. I hope he gets punched out a few more times.
NO parole, NO second chance.
He walks into a cement box and gets carried out on a gurney in 60 years, cold as a brick in the winter.
To Hell with this trash.
Child rapist not worth tax payer money to keep alive fill the cell with ants that will eat him alive
shareI don’t think they have the death penalty over there. We have it here in certain American states but it’s rarely carried out or it just drags on for decades with appeals and such.
There’s no ideal answer for any of this stuff, just keep the dirtbag locked up until there’s nothing left of him but a husk to cremate.
I bet the death penalty will eventually phase out in the States. It seems more and more States are removing it as time goes on.
I'm generally against DP because of cases of innocent being wrongfully executed. But for a case like this and also the Parkland school shooter in Florida, I would make an exception.
I understand your point, I don’t think the death penalty should be employed casually at all.
Innocent men have been executed in the past so it’s not a casual matter.
We are civilized and we should be cautious about matters of justice.
In cases where all physical and scientific evidence points to a particular creep we should just put him down.
Give his lawyer 20 years to drag the whole thing out until the appeals run dry and then fry him.
That was in June.
Was he executed by now?
This is in the UK, which means he's more likely to be released by now than executed.
And good odds that his fellow prisoners will do a better job of delivering justice than the legal system.
Yep, I teased the OP who repeatedly ask(ed) for death penalty on different occasions.
I'm absolutely against death penalty!
So, be careful cause that doesn't make me a peaceful person.
Just started a wine war in the Hitler thread. ☺
Well there's no death penalty in the UK, our opinions on the matter are irrelevant.
But seriously, this guy got life in prison, but he has good odds of parole, and UK prisons are nicer than some places I've lived. Rough justice may be the only real justice available.
Justice isn't revenge...or leastwise shouldn't be revenge.
Otherwise people are hanged soon on the next tree again. ☻
Please, don't get me wrong.
Won't give that young murderer an honour medal either.
But we have to treat prisoners fairly cause (in my opinion) they're nearly never really responsible for the evil they did and often are victims themselves.
This young murderer would send for the rest of his life to mental hospital.
He'll not change, he'll stay a danger his whole life.
IMHO the common desire for revenge isn't an entirely bad thing. Sure, it's part sheer primitive brutality, and the more rational desire to remove a danger from society... plus the hope of making a criminal realize just how bad their actions were. If a person commits a violent act, maybe they will regret their actions if the same act is perpetrated on them, although that's doubtful in this case as the murderer is described as remorseless.
But as far as criminals not being responsible gor their actions, IMHO this is hardly ever true (only in cases of deep-end psychosis). If a criminal isn't responsible for their actions, who is? And if they aren't responsible for their own actions, and are swayed to criminal acts by forces beyond their control, doesn't that make them a permanent danger to society? And shouldnt permentnt dangers to society who cannot be responsible for their actions be removed from society?
Seriously, don't get me started. Poverty and abuse doesn't turn everyone who experiences into criminals, and believe me this is something I know from personal experience. And I'm no conservative, but I scofc at the Wokie belief that being nice to criminals will make them turn nicely law-abiding in return, that's not how humans work.
Hmmmm...basically we agree with each other.
Of course dangers for others need to be removed, permanently!
Therefore would send this young murderer finally to mental hospital.
Because he will not change.
But there are other cases who deserve a 2nd chance because they're able to change. Depends on the individual case, and I'm certainly not 'woke'.
About your statement of "being responsible" will think again.
It's nearly philosophically...what/who created us how we are?
For that need a good coffee.
And fitting to the topic will really rewatch now "Raise Ravens" (1977).
Okay, I'm glad that we agree that dangers to society should be removed so they can do no more harm. That's important. But I don't agree that there's any point to sending people like this child-rapist-and-murderer to a mental hospital, people who do things aren't necessarily mentally ill, that is, they do not have the kind of mental illnesses that the psychiatric professions can treat. FYI I've worked in the helping professions for a long time and have a reasonable idea of what mental health treatment can and can't do, and what they can't do is change someone who has an ingrained "clinical lack of empathy (no conscience or remorse)", or who likes harming others. All they can do with such people is teach them to behave more normally, which isn't necessarily beneficial to society. Mentals hospitals should be either from the intractably mentally ill, or for people who can be helped by their stay, and not as a dumping ground for the evil. The mentally ill have enough troubles without the irredeemably around.
But yeah, as far as responsibility goes, I'm no philosopher! I'm just old and had a lot of challenges of my own, and my work has put me in contact with people who've had to deal with absolutely horrendous difficulties and tragedies. And the fact that most people who have had to deal with the worst life has to offer aren't mean or unreasonably angry (just selfish because they have to be), they're just trying to live their lives and do no harm. That's given me less and less patience with those who say that their personal problems drove them to crime, I've seen others deal with worse and they haven't turned to crime!
Thank you, Otter. I imagine you remember the plaque President Harry Truman had on his desk in the Oval Office: “The Buck stops here.” I come from a family with a long history of abuse on my mother’s side of the family. I could have easily just passed that abuse along; but I literally would have rather died by my own hand, and I am a Christian who believes that suicides do not get into Heaven. Any one of us can make the Buck stop. All it takes is integrity, love (including self-love, without which there really can be no other love) and asking for help.
Specifically Re the Bozo who is the subject of this topic. I recall this dialog from Russell Crowe in LA Confidential, speaking to a recidivist wife-beater: “You’ll be out in 6 months. I’m gonna use that time to get real cozy with your parole officer. The next time you do this, I’m gonna have your ass violated back to Quentin on a kiddie-raper charge. You know what they do to kiddie rapers in Quentin, don’t you.”
Thanks, I hate to sound anything like the sort of conservative who goes around raving about "personal responsibility", since they misuse the phrase anyway (they mean imposing punishment), but yeah. Like I said above, I've spent the last few decades trying to help people who are dealing with the worst life has to offer, and it's incredibly rare for such a person to become cruel or abusive. Any of us, no matter how great our personal challenges, can deliberately strive to be the best person we can be, that we will not harm others the way we have been harmed.
I have no idea what makes a person grow up to be someone who will rape or murder a child, I just know that there is no known way to fix such a person. All we can do is remove them from society, and if someone inflicts a little suffering on them for revenge or justice or shits and giggles, well. I've got more important things to do that worry about the well-being of child murderers.
"On 21 March 2019, he was handed a life sentence with a minimum term of 27 years; subsequently reduced to 24 years on appeal." So I guess that's 2043 before they even consider releasing him - and if he's judged to still be a risk they'd keep him locked up.
shareWhy they reduced his sentence by 3 years is shocking. Is the UK "soft" on criminals like here in Canada?
shareI don't know why they reduced the sentence - I would guess the original sentence strayed outside some set of guide lines - I believe on some occasions appeals can result in an increase in a sentence and there is also a process where a sentence deemed to light can be appealed against and lengthened.
Too soft - I don't know. There are people in prison for whole life sentences - they are simply never coming out. For this guy he can't apply for release until 2043 and he may not get it then, for several years or possibly ever.
Child murderer and rapist is 20 now, and if he's released in his forties, he'll still be strong and able to do real damage, if I'm right about him.
There really should be life without possibility of parole for some people. You walk into that prison knowing you've done something that means you can never be trusted with freedom again, and you aren't leaving until you leave in a box.
I can't argue with that. But he was 16 at the time and may be a completely different person in 20 years time. Maybe he'll be judged able to be released on licence at some point in the future - maybe he'll spend his whole life in prison anyway.
shareWhat are the odds that he'll develop empathy, a conscience, or a sense of ethics in prison? I'd guess between zero and absolute impossibility!
If he's lever out, it should be when he's old and broken, not when he's 45 capable of doing more damage.
Good
shareSince parenting correctly is illegal now, society needs to make large examples of these consequences, VERY public to possibly determine future rapists.
We reap what we sow, people. WE create these monsters with our "anything goes" mentality.
Wow, you've got everything figured out !
shareSince parenting correctly is illegal now
EXPLAIN. NOEMOJI
Nothing will stop a pedosexual from fufilling thier sick Desiresthey always abusechildren, execution will not deter thm, they want sex and only children arouse them
Pedo sexualityis inthe brain they cannot be cured or rehabilitated
I don't have an "anything goes" mentality. Speak for yourself and don't try to put me on an unnecessary guilt trip over someone else's evil.🤨
shareArticle clearly says he's 20. So this is click bait.
shareHe was 16 when he did it.
“The fiend was reportedly an immediate target after being sent to the notorious institution for mercilessly snatching little Alesha MacPhail from her bed in July 2018.”
Ok, let’s break this down for you: -
Current year / year article published - 2022
Year crime committed - 2018
Difference = 4 years
Perpetrator’s current age = 20
20 - 4 = 16
Therefore, perpetrator was 16 when crime was committed
(Basic Maths and Comprehension Andy)
Title has been changed. They misrepresented the age of the person in question. The subject is his current assault, at age 20.
shareI clearly stated in the OP "16 years old at the time".
shareHe won't last.
sharegood. hope they do it again.
shareTbh I don't condone violence and it's pointless in deterring his actions, so I don't feel happy when I hear about someone being brutalized just because they "deserved" it. I'd prefer the system put an end to his life so he can't repeat his crime and that be the end of it.
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