"Sticks and stones may break my bones, but WORDS will never hurt me"
to:
"words are mentally equal to physical violence"
in what insane uni-meta-multi-verse does that make any sense???
WORDS hurt you? My god. What a bunch of pussies.
Some one says, "Oh, you are UGLY!" and you fall apart? Why even care about others opinions?
It's time to reverse this all and get back to the real world.
Sticks and stones FACTUALLY COULD break your bones and hurt you... but words only do whatever YOU CHOOSE to allow them to. Why are people so dumb to ALLOW words to hurt?
Words hurt though. When I was a freshman in highschool, there was a guy who everyday, just outside the building of my first hour class, yelled in front ofeveryone, that I was gay in a vulgar way I refuse to repeat. That hurt. It wasn't even true. I am straight but nobody likes people making up lies about them. Then there's my last year of highschool where 2 guys in my math called me stupid and gay everyday and a bunch of guys in my PE class intentionally annoyed me by saying all superheroes were homosexuals. And they all did it because they were a bunch stupid jerks.
... because no one taught you growing up that you dont have to allow words to hurt you.
Shame they didn't stress "sticks and stones" much earlier on you. It may have had much less impact to you.
which is exactly the point of my post.
Now, we avoid that phrase, and look at all the problems it is causing.
instead of training people to endure and not enable, we created entitled crybabies about everything.
how are we going to protect everyone from the bad people on Earth? ask them to not be bad? We KNOW that isn't going to ever work, so we need to toughen up on OUR side.
Political correctness, failing laws (has crime ever stopped because of law? no), social justice warroring does not, and will not work.
We need to bring back the Sticks and Stones agility.
Well I try not to let words hurt me. But at the same time when people act like jerks to you, it's hard not to react to it. Especially if it happens in person. It's hard to shut down your emotions as you say.
So I was thinking about this a little more, and your take on it. I decided to look into the legalities of verbal abuse. Of course these will vary depending on where one lives, but it appears that there is a consensus in western society that:
Uttering threats is illegal.
Harassment is illegal.
So the law acknowledges that there are situations where words are harmful. In some places when it comes to children the laws are even more stringent as what is considered emotional abuse.
yep. I get it, and fully back what you are saying, and thank you for replying.
I think everyone agrees don't pick on children, it's kind of common sense adult/parenting knowledge.... which some parents still don't follow... just like laws. Laws are great and work well for most people, we understand laws are setup by us to help us all get along, but laws don't always work.
By that I mean we have LAWS against crimes, yet crimes still happen. I don't want to depend upon laws to protect my fragile psyche against some bad people who WILL break these laws by calling me names. Nor do I want us to HAVE TO setup laws that repress free speech. if someone wants to call me a dickhead, I fully support his right to do so. In that case, it is on me to have thick skin and not let this name calling bother me. 10% what happens to you, 90% how you react.
With "sticks and stones" going by the wayside, we've opened up a generation of thin skinned people, who will now chase down LAWS to protect them from bad people... that will never work, because bad people will always happen, laws or not.
This was the reasoning behind my post: WE need to deal with it, not put it on others. We're becoming unrealistically sensitive (because bad people will happen, laws or not) and becoming triggered cry babies over our spilled milk.
Oh! There's a RELATED phrase that applies also: "Don't cry over spilled milk"
Which means stop standing there fretting over it, clean it up, and move on.
Perhaps there is too much crying over little things. But society has always swung on a pendulum and this will change at some point as well. You seem to think that it's people should have thicker skin.
I ask you, why do people think that they are entitled to say nasty things about others. Haven't you ever heard the old saying "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all" ?
Can we agree that regardless of how we WISH people acted in society, it doesn't act that way?
Personally, I blame horrid parenting for ALL OF IT, crime too, but that is a whole other barrel of worms discussion to go there.
So, if people DO say bad things to us (because they will), should we just stand there and take it, mentally absorb it and let it hurt us? Because they are not acting like we WISH they would?
Can you just turn off your feelings? Has no one ever said anything to you that hurt? Really, what I see happening today, and maybe it has gone too far, maybe it hasn't, is just that people are calling out people who say shitty things. If you can't walk up to someone and slap them (unless you are Will Smith), then why should you be allowed to verbally slap someone? Emotional pain can hurt just as much as physical.
If you think that people have really moved the line on what is and isn't acceptable to say, I will agree with that. The line has moved. Younger generations than mine don't seem to see the same things as funny. Are they wrong? Are we wrong? I don't know. I really, really try not to say anything to hurt people, because I don't want to hurt people. If you are upset that you can't say things that will hurt people then I don't know what else I can say to you.
this isn't about me at all. I don't WANT to say things to hurt people, I want people to know they don't have to be hurt. they've grown up with out "sticks and stones", and learned to whole heartedly accept people saying bad things as having the ability to hurt them.
We will never stop people being jerks, but WE can reduce their jerk intention abilities to affect us.
Also, as a side effect, thanks to internet and awful parenting, people ARE being more vocal.
"Sticks and stones will break your bones, but words DON'T HAVE TO hurt you."
I grew up with that saying, and you know what? Words still hurt. Yeah, maybe not from a stranger on the internet, but words have always and will always hurt. The pen is mightier than the sword is another idiom that implies the same thing.
The words themselves don't have to hurt, but the intent behind them sure can.
i never said anything close about me wanting to say the N word,
I've talked totally against doing so, proving it to be an offensive word (not hurting, OFFENSIVE - if you don't understand the difference in our discussion here, that's not my problem)
You TELL me I want to say the N word, which I have zero interest in doing, have stated it several times, and shown why offensive words should never be used by anyone
but you tell me I should say it.
I guess you lost me with all that. hahahahhaha seems kind of a dumb track
It is but there are too many groups out there now who tell people they should get upset about everything. Well, not everything, just select sanctioned things.
In the 80's and early 90's it was Conservative Parents wanting to Censor Entertainment Medium Art not because they were offended but because they didn't want their kids to become little school shooters. Fast Foward to now and its Liberal Parents wanting to Censor Entertainment Medium art not for their kids sake but because they themselves can't handle it.
And to them such words may not be harmFUL but are still frustrating, uncomfortable, maybe a little insulting and upsetting too. Some people can't stand criticism.
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