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Are women really that disadvantaged?


Aside from a few minor areas they have a huge advantage over men in almost every department.

The feminists will say the threat of sexual assault and harassment are a major issue, and in some ways they are but how many women do you know who have to deal with that with any sort of regularity? Being hit on a lot does not qualify as harassment unless the guy proceeds past “no.”

So basically women now have the majority of the world convinced that they are lifelong victims who suffer at the hands of a patriarchal chauvinistic society, but let’s be realistic. Women have it pretty damn good overall.

They receive special treatment in almost every area aside from some lingering inequality in the workplace and even that has mostly been amended. They are almost always immediately favored in any social debate, they have an extreme upper hand when it comes to dating up to about 40 and even then they still have an edge, and in divorces they still get the benefit of nearly every doubt.

The fact is that most men do not harass or assault women, but actually grovel at their feet treating them like queens and themselves as mere peasants honored to be in their presence, even with absolutely no intention or promise of getting any of this respect or a romantic opportunity with them in return. They have us walking on egg shells now because a handful of obscenely powerful and wealthy men have committed crimes that most men wouldn’t think twice of committing no matter how desperate they got.

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I grew up in what I imagine was a bubble. As an adult, I'm disheartened by how many women - and as children - I have met who were molested. The % of childhood female molestation I'm sure is way too high. Not an area of study for me, but I think for every healthy family there is probably one that hasn't been so fortunate.

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Or the bubble you grew up in was because you have not been brainwashed into believing that men are as predatory (and otherwise evil) as many women would like to believe in order to substantiate their self=perceived "2nd class" victimized- status, the trend these days.

More precisely, we all know that a man who even innocently touches a woman can be now be used ($$) to claim molestation, and ruining a man's life in many cases. I find that very dishearteningly, to say the least.

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I was molested as a child. Good luck getting most men to admit that. Yes, men are more likely to be molesters, probably a lot more likely, but there are physical reasons for that. After I was molested(pressured into sucking a dick), I tried it on other kids in my neighborhood, not because I was trying to victimize them, but because I wanted to see what it felt like too. It didn't really work, since I'm not aroused by children, but I'm sure both of those people today are carrying emotional baggage from it. The girl will probably go on to be a statistic and share her experiences in a network of support, and the guy will probably be insecure about it forever, may have gone on to become an abuser himself and have that be another source of shame, and will instantly lose status in the public eye if anyone were to find out. The only reason I can admit this is there's nothing to salvage, people have always rejected me, eventually I rejected them as well in favor of accepting myself.

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It depends on the country. In America and much of western Europe, they're treated a whole lot better than in many parts of the world. In places like Canada, Australia, and Latin America, it's a case of "Your Mileage May Vary."

In the Middle-East, Africa, and parts of Asia, they're still treated like crap, and yet you never hear a word about it from the feminazis. They're too cowardly to try to push for women's rights in places where it's truly needed in this present day. It's easier to fight for a cause that no longer exists here in America, because they know nobody will arrest or shoot them. That, and now they are being threatened by the trans "women." (And I use that term very loosely for them).

For the record, I have yet to be sexually harassed by anybody outside of high school, and even then it was rare. I also have never been talked down to or told I couldn't do something "because I am a girl." However, I did learn that there are some things society still sees as taboo for women to do, and it's understandable why:

- cussing and swearing (they say only lowlife, low-class women with no self-respect or manners do that)
- telling sex jokes openly (same explanation as above)
- delivering friendly insults with sexual undertones (people look at you weird if you're not a guy or a soldier doing it)
- burping loudly to impress people (it seems only men and certain nameless groups from nameless domiciles or drivers of nameless vehicles can use burping as a second language)
- fighting physically at school (apparently girls who do that are seen as freaks)

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I don't know if you mean necessarily in mixed company, but these things are considered (by as many men vs. not) as low-class and not impressionable for grown men also:
- cussing and swearing
- telling sex jokes openly
- delivering friendly insults with sexual undertones
- burping loudly to impress people
- fighting physically at school

However, I disagree that cussing and swearing is seen as particularity taboo and lowlife for females. And much of the above is also due to a sign of the times, unfortunately.


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Just because college students, movie stars, and people on tv say the F word in every sentence, doesn't mean everyone likes to hear it, or respects people who talk that way.

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You misunderstand: I HATE to hear it also from both young men/women in public. I find it extremely rude, but it's normal for them.

My point is that women use foul language in their personal life, and it's not as stigmatized anymore. It also depends on the woman: a female teacher (not high-school,etc.) I had used the F-word, though she was middle-aged and it didn't "sound" so offensive, and because she wasn't a stranger. Just pointing out the different nuances.

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I meant in public where everyone can hear them, even children and elderly. I don't care if it's "normal" for some people, I'd prefer not to associate with people like that. What people do at home is very different than public.

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Yes, I also meant in public. Now, didn't I say that? We agree!
Btw, are you, you know..more concerned about the rest of what I said about the ''disadvantages'' of women in that specific post than the swearing matter? C'mon..you can tell me.

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I already made it clear what my viewpoint was in my very first entry. Women are not all that disadvantaged in countries like the US and western Europe, but their advantages are much more limited in certain areas of the world, despite us living in the 21st century.

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I know your viewpoint in general, but was referring to my last "entry" regarding the rest of what I said, which included the swearing item. It's copied below:

"I don't know if you mean necessarily in mixed company, but these things are considered (by as many men vs. not) as low-class and not impressionable for grown men also:"
- cussing and swearing
- telling sex jokes openly
- delivering friendly insults with sexual undertones
- burping loudly to impress people
- fighting physically at school

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It depends where you are.

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In Australia we have;

* Female only gyms.
* Female only business clubs, even though all the men's only social clubs were shut down.
* Various female only groups.
* A minister for women.
* Various quotas, a mistruth about gender pay gap.
* Various programs to support them in different ways.

And men have....

Ummmm....

Sure sounds like women are disadvantaged to me.

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Sweetie, who told you we were disadvantaged?

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Jesus man, you have to know not to present a logical dissenting viewpoint to the angry feminists.

Keep letting them think they live in the dirt, are treated like garbage, and have no rights...that's how they want it. They want to be victims. Nothing gives people more purpose than CONSTANTLY letting people know how bad they have it.

If you try to let them know their lives aren't as bad as they are making it out to be...they'll eat you alive! There is nothing more brutally annoying than an angry feminist. Much like The Terminator...they will never stop. Haha.

Best of luck to you! Lol.

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The Terminator, you say? He'll be back. As a woman.

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