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Am I the only straight guy who is an ally of LGBTQ+?


I'm just wondering. It seems most of the straight allies of LGBTQ+ are women - in other words, it seems to me like straight men are more likely to be homophobic and transphobic.

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I support LGBTQ+ also. Live and let live is my motto.

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Great, that's awesome!

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You're a liar (proven). You hate conservatives, gun rights supporters and anyone who doesn't share your extreme, brainwashed, fringe kook leftist ideology. You're also an anti-Semite.

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What nonsense! You're unhinged.

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Why do you support wiping Israel off the map?

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*crickets*

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To be fair, that doesn't ring of the sentiment of "let live".

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An ally is someone who has the same political beliefs as the group. If you don’t share their beliefs, they are suggesting that people cut you off. So no I don’t support them or their far left agenda.

I do support people on an individual basis though.

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Perfectly said.

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Agreed.

Individuals.

Not groups.

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https://x.com/LibertyPillMeme/status/1865844666127565208/photo/1


Picture of the OP.

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If that's me, so what?

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If that is you it would explain a lot.

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Hey. aliens is a good person who adds value to this forum with his contributions whereas you are a shit-stirring troll who never posts anything but divisive political propaganda usually attacking a group of people you disagree with.

You should back off.

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LOL

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Homophobic and transphobic?

I don’t know a single person afraid of gays and trans.

But you should be asking why every liberal isn’t supporting the alphabet mafia.

Once you get them all onboard, then take a swing at the conservatives.

That should keep you off their backs for several years.

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Playing with the etymology of the 'phobic' part of the expression is deliberately misunderstanding and avoiding the question.
and you're not the first in the thread to use that cop out.

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Today the terms homophobic and transphobic are used as insults.

It’s like saying, “Why don’t you assholes support the gays?”

Asking a question with insults isn’t going to start a civil conversation.

If the OP had said, “…it seems to me like straight men are more likely to not support them” I’d be open to answering his question and having a discussion.

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Oh great, the “alphabet mafia” chestnut again. That never gets old either, does it?

Can you explain to me where this mafia is based, who is the Don, what crime rings they are specifically involved in and how they affect your life personally, if indeed this imaginary body actually existed?

You come here dismissing the validity of the term homophobia by countering it with alphabet mafia and what, there’s no acknowledgement of hypocrisy on your own part?

Fantastic.

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I support pretenders rights.

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Am I the only one who thinks maybe its not a black and white binary do you dont you issue?

Maybe some people support being gay but dont support being tranny

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I suppose so. I guess the user Rorikon might be one example.

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Given this thread, I think you're one of maybe four on this site and your supposition about straight men has been largely confirmed.

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Heh, perhaps.

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"it seems to me like straight men are more likely to be homophobic and transphobic."

I can only speak anecdotally (with a fair amount of lived experience though) but I haven't found this to be true. Of course in group situations, and especially in anonymous online forums such as this one, there can be a pack mentality with people who hold certain prejudices, but individually I haven't found straight guys to be more predisposed to hate. Although I'm gay I don't mix much in the "community" and most of my friends are straight, including my best friend who I have known since we were five years old. I believe that once someone gets to know you on an individual basis sexuality becomes so less important, when you think about it the gender of the type of person you're attracted to is such a small facet of your personality anyway.

The other point I'd make is that when you look at the straight male individuals who are vocal about being anti-gay, I think you'll find that it's not just lgbt people they have a problem with. Most times you will find they also have some pretty nasty views about all minorities, foreigners, different racial groups and even women. Which to me points to them being predisposed to bigotry in all its forms.

Finally I would say that I have found some women to be just as prejudiced as straight men towards gay people. In some cases they can be particularly caustic about it, and in others it may be microaggressions and insinuations that show they feel entirely uncomfortable with gay people. I mean, take a look at AmeriGirl's posting history here for example, she is by far one of the most vocal in her homophobia on MovieChat, she never misses an opportunity to paint us all as freaks and crazed militants. Her language towards gay people is as passionately violent as any straight guy I've seen here.

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Good posting.

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I agree with filmflaneur. Thank you for your input and contribution to this thread! You provided valuable insight.

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Thanks man, I appreciate that.


As an extra thought I’d also point out that from my experience gay men themselves are not immune to bigotry. I’ve known some gay guys who hold some fairly extreme prejudiced views themselves about straight people, trans people and other ethnic groups. You’d naturally assume that being part of a group that has historically been marginalised you might have more empathy towards others who face bigotry, but it’s not always the case.

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