>Also, homogeneous population. This is very important to guarantee the unity of a people.
Not what I asked you. Birth rate evidence please.
>NATO provides weapons, battle airplanes, trainers, and troops to Ukraine. Several Western soldiers have died in the battlefield.
Right, so it's cold war where opposing sides fund and support the enemies of their main enemy. It's not a direct conflict.
>I give more than you do.
Dude, you're a fucking nazi sympathiser. The Nazis tried to genocide slavs off the face of the planet. Go fuck yourself, fascist.
>Nope, Chinese tech products in Europe and all over the world. European car industries are alarmed by Chinese competition. They should lower their prices and at the same time protectionist measures must be taken, because otherwise everything will be in the hands of Chinese.
I am talking about their media culture and language, genius.
>Just take a look at recent blockbusters: sci-fi, action, animated fantasy, mystery crime, war, comedies etc. ALL kinds of movies. What heavy state censorship? Bullshit!
https://web.archive.org/web/20170710043709/http://www.cnsa.cn/2017/06/30/ARTI0Qg4cp7jtd1Z5o0RnfzM170630.shtml
Look at these restrictions here. They have much more sanitised content than the western world.
>They don't consume UK content all over the globe and if they do so, PROVIDE EVIDENCE!
Not to equal levels, sure. Someone in USA likely watches more UK content than someone in Brazil. The BBC has a global footprint. It was prominent, second to the USA, is the development of post-WW2 rock and pop music. Metal music comes from the UK. UK exports a ton of actors to perform in global TV shows and films and literature (TV shows and films with global reach). Punk mostly comes from the UK. UK TV/film brands/franchises like Doctor Who, James Bond, Mr. Bean, Sherlock, Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, Robin Hood, Charles Dickens, Jane Austen, Agatha Christie. Influential figures like George Orwell.
From where does football come from? UK. What is the most popular sport in the world? What is the most popular football league in the world?
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PSville (644)
2 months ago
> Not what I asked you. Birth rate evidence please.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_fertility_rate
> It's not a direct conflict.
It is because both sides are ACTIVELY fighting each other in the BATTLEFIELD! NATO soldiers vs Russians.
> Go fuck yourself, fascist.
No, you dirty hater of Slavs.
> I am talking about their media culture and language, genius.
Chinese language is spreading and more and more foreigners learn it. Chinese movie industry is rivaling Hollywood and as I said before we may see sooner or later Chinese movies at cinemas or on TV.
> They have much more sanitised content than the western world.
Your link is old and in Chinese! China has grown and changed a lot. The huge variety of movies attest the evolving culture. Moreover, the West represents a small percentage of the world population. Therefore, China's influence must be examined also from the outlook of all the others who aren't part of the West. To an Indonesian, the culture of Shanghai and Cantonese people may not seem very censored!
>From where does football come from?
From where does paper come from? From where come most android smartphones? UK's influence was no doubt big, but it is declining now. Sorry mate!
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Skavau (15993)
2 months ago
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_fertility_rate
China is listed here as having one of the worst fertility rates on earth. How does this back your claim up?
>It is because both sides are ACTIVELY fighting each other in the BATTLEFIELD! NATO soldiers vs Russians.
Provide evidence that NATO soldiers are actively fighting Russians.
>No, you dirty hater of Slavs.
And how am I a "dirty hater of Slavs"? I'm not the one who makes excuses for the Nazis. The Russian state would fucking arrest you if you expressed this shit in their country. Do you realise that?
>Chinese language is spreading and more and more foreigners learn it.
Provide evidence please that this is happening at an accelerated rate.
>Chinese movie industry is rivaling Hollywood
Based on what do you claim this?
>as I said before we may see sooner or later Chinese movies at cinemas or on TV.
You can already see Chinese TV shows on services like Netflix. It's just that, for the most part, the western world and most other parts of the world are not watching them. Why is this?
>Your link is old and in Chinese!
Use google translation genius.
> China has grown and changed a lot. The huge variety of movies attest the evolving culture.
Based on what? Can Chinese people make TV shows and films that depict LGBT people? Can they make TV shows and films that negatively characterise and potray the CCP or PRC? Can they criticise Chinese social customs? Can they make fun of their politicians? Can they produce gore and violence and nudity in movies and TV series like the western world? Can they make 'gritty' content in the same way as the USA and the western world?
You do realise censorship tends to be more nefarious than just banning fantasy or sci-fi, right?
>Moreover, the West represents a small percentage of the world population.
There's no good evidence that most of the world consumes much Chinese content. It's heavily concentrated in East Asia.
>From where does paper come from? From where come most android smartphones? UK's influence was no doubt big, but it is declining now. Sorry mate!
Yes, UK influence is declining. I never claimed otherwise. But it's still big.
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PSville (644)
2 months ago
>How does this back your claim up?
Low birth rates in the West and at the same time in many lands shrinking of its native population and increase of outlanders-migrants. Chinese are homogeneous, more united and disciplined. I consider the average China man smarter than the average European or American.
>Provide evidence that NATO soldiers are actively fighting Russians.
Search videos on twitter and elsewhere. Sadly, I don't keep a record them and delete my history from time to time. I've seen French, American, Georgian soldiers beside Ukrainians. Many reports about Poles too. Today or yesterday, I read an article about an American trainer killed by Russians. His wife is very angry. https://x.com/ArthurM40330824/status/1839298697806684448
>Why is this?
Not enough promotion. I've never seen a commercial about Chinese movie in Greece or the West. Greeks won’t reject Chinese movies: non-English series have an important share in the TV market. The other major reason is that people from Latvia to Portugal and Brazil to Mexico identify more easily with Hollywood content: they remain in the Western sphere.
>Use google translation genius.
Old link, and not always accurate translation and besides assessment of a degree of censorship is arbitrary. Some may consider the UK to be a land where the State censors much or that doesn’t respect one's freedom. Censorship is a subjective matter.
>Can they make 'gritty' content in the same way as the USA and the western world?
The world doesn’t revolve around London and Washington. You prefer what your fellow men produce, Chinese and many others prefer what Chinese produce. Western culture is more dominant in most regions of the world; we'll see the results of the rivalry in the next years. I repeat it will take decades for Chinese culture to become number one in the West and most probably will never become. In any case, we are heading towards a multipolar world.
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Skavau (15993)
2 months ago
>Low birth rates in the West and at the same time in many lands shrinking of its native population and increase of outlanders-migrants. Chinese are homogeneous, more united and disciplined. I consider the average China man smarter than the average European or American.
I didn't say the west didn't have low birth rates. I said China has them too, and it's worse than many western countries.
>Search videos on twitter and elsewhere. Sadly, I don't keep a record them and delete my history from time to time. I've seen French, American, Georgian soldiers beside Ukrainians. Many reports about Poles too.
So you have no fucking evidence. As usual.
Volunteers aren't operating in any official capacity as NATO soldiers. Provide evidence that NATO is sending troops to fight on the Ukrainian frontlines.
>Today or yesterday, I read an article about an American trainer killed by Russians. His wife is very angry. https://x.com/ArthurM40330824/status/1839298697806684448
You are such a moron. A few posts down from that someone is commenting that this is fake news. There's zero evidence that this person even exists. It's just some dude supposedly called "Steven".
>Not enough promotion. I've never seen a commercial about Chinese movie in Greece or the West. Greeks won’t reject Chinese movies: non-English series have an important share in the TV market.
I've also never seen an advert about korean TV shows either. Guess what? People watch them.
>The other major reason is that people from Latvia to Portugal and Brazil to Mexico identify more easily with Hollywood content: they remain in the Western sphere.
Right, so there are unbreakable cultural barriers here.
>Old link, and not always accurate translation and besides assessment of a degree of censorship is arbitrary. Some may consider the UK to be a land where the State censors much or that doesn’t respect one's freedom. Censorship is a subjective matter.
Based on what? Provide evidence that UK has anywhere near comparable levels of social and media censorship as the PRC. As I said: Can Chinese people make TV shows and films that depict LGBT people? Can they make TV shows and films that negatively characterise and potray the CCP or PRC? Can they criticise Chinese social customs? Can they make fun of their politicians? Can they produce gore and violence and nudity in movies and TV series like the western world? Can they make 'gritty' content in the same way as the USA and the western world?
>The world doesn’t revolve around London and Washington. You prefer what your fellow men produce, Chinese and many others prefer what Chinese produce.
I didn't say they couldn't. But that that Chinese filmmakers, directors, screenwriters literally cannot broach certain topics by law. This is not the case in most western countries.
>estern culture is more dominant in most regions of the world; we'll see the results of the rivalry in the next years. I repeat it will take decades for Chinese culture to become number one in the West and most probably will never become. In any case, we are heading towards a multipolar world.
So you've retracted your initial claim that it will supplant the west here.
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PSville (644)
2 months ago
> I said China has them too, and it's worse than many western countries.
In terms of demographics, we are worse than them! No invaders in China or massive immigration of non-Asian origin.
> Provide evidence that NATO is sending troops to fight on the Ukrainian frontlines.
Search videos. There's no need for me to lie. I've seen videos of Americans speaking in the battlefield. They can't be fake. We are in war with Russia and bickering about who has sent NATO troops or not or who will press the nuclear button won’t benefit anyone.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65245065
> You are such a moron.
You are the moron and a gullible one supporting the war of globalists.
https://x.com/i/status/1580089524503613441
> Guess what? People watch them.
Because South Korea is a major USA ally. That's a very important factor to consider, while China is a rival that must be stopped.
>Right, so there are unbreakable cultural barriers here.
Not unbreakable. Don’t forget that the USA is becoming more Asianized and less Anglo-Saxon every year. Hollywood's presence may decline in lands that prefer Anglo-Saxon or European culture.
>Provide evidence that UK has anywhere near comparable levels of social and media censorship as the PRC
I repeat censorship is arbitrary. Someone from the USA or elsewhere may consider the UK a land of censorship. Why? Ask them!
>So you've retracted your initial claim that it will supplant the west here.
China will be number one, the most powerful country. It doesn't have to be popular at the movies or on our TVs to become number one power. you focus on movies because it is your strong point, but there are many other aspects to be taken into account: public debt, population (the USA is home to 330 million and acts as world policeman, why can't China with more than 1 billion and a very strong army act likewise?), alliances (BRICS getting bigger and threatening the SWIFT system), natural resources etc.
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Skavau (15993)
2 months ago
>In terms of demographics, we are worse than them! No invaders in China or massive immigration of non-Asian origin.
We're talking about birth rates you fucking moron. China has worse birth rates.
>Search videos. There's no need for me to lie. I've seen videos of Americans speaking in the battlefield. They can't be fake. We are in war with Russia and bickering about who has sent NATO troops or not or who will press the nuclear button won’t benefit anyone.
Dude, you are a habitual liar. You lie about everything. You make shit up. I instinctively think you're bullshitting about almost everything. You lied about Norway being pro-Nazi. You lied about Denmark being pro-Nazi.
There are no NATO troops fighting in Ukraine. Stop running away from your blatant fucking lie, you lying piece of shit.
>You are the moron and a gullible one supporting the war of globalists.
The war that Russia started? Any reason you fall for fake news nonsense?
>Because South Korea is a major USA ally. That's a very important factor to consider, while China is a rival that must be stopped.
So is Taiwan a major US ally, yet its cultural content isn't prominent in the same way. Chinese content is just as accessible to western audiences as Korean, or Japanese, or many other countries.
>Don’t forget that the USA is becoming more Asianized and less Anglo-Saxon every year.
Any evidence for this?
>Hollywood's presence may decline in lands that prefer Anglo-Saxon or European culture.
Hollywoods presence is declining because it is competing more and more with more capable entertainment industries from Europe, South America, India and Korea and Japan. To an extent China too, but its only one of many players there.
>I repeat censorship is arbitrary. Someone from the USA or elsewhere may consider the UK a land of censorship. Why? Ask them!
So you can't. As usual. You're just playing the old "its all the same" Russian-style propaganda nonsense they use to excuse their own censorship. The USA does have more civil liberties than the UK in many areas. You can actually compare these things.
>China will be number one, the most powerful country. It doesn't have to be popular at the movies or on our TVs to become number one power. you focus on movies because it is your strong point, but there are many other aspects to be taken into account: public debt, population (the USA is home to 330 million and acts as world policeman, why can't China with more than 1 billion and a very strong army act likewise?)
Chinas population is collapsing. I made this point to you many times and you have not adequately addressed it.
BRICs is a meme economic alliance where half of its members hate each other.
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PSville (644)
2 months ago
> China has worse birth rates.
The West has bad birth rates and horrible demographic problem with migrants, many of whom hate or dislike the lands they settle in.
>There are no NATO troops fighting in Ukraine.
The USA and the EU have officially sent $$$$ and tons of weapons and vehicles to Ukraine and yet you doubt the presence of troops in Ukraine. The world is burning down and the asshole is still wanking. Prove to me that there are no NATO soldiers fighting for Ukraine.
>The war that Russia started?
Started by the globalists you praise and support incessantly. Jewish licker.
>Any evidence for this?
Demographic data. Many Asian (Indian, Chinese etc.) migrants. Less births among whites, less whites moving to the US: Italian community in NYC has shrunk, while the Chinatown is big and strong. Also, more and more Latinos, which explains the rise of soccer popularity.
>Hollywoods presence is declining
GOOD. 😀
> they use to excuse their own censorship.
Instead of trying to correct them (because you think they have to be corrected), why don't you correct your country? China outdoes the UK and its allies: What are you doing?
>Chinas population is collapsing.
Instead of taking pleasure in your rival's defect again and again, why don't you focus on your country's or the West's merits and on rectifying its mistakes and neutralizing its flaws??? How will your master, the USA, return to number 1 (UK has long left the top five; if it is in the top 20 in 20 years it will be thanks to its nuclear bombs)? Wars?
>BRICs is a meme economic alliance where half of its members hate each other.
Hate each other? prove it. Hate is a strong word. If they hate something, it is the West. It is a GIGANTIC bloc formed to counter American $ and its allies. Moreover, many people living in NATO territory hate NATO and the USA (its politics, not the average Yankee). Strong anti-NATO sentiment in Greece and in other lands of our decadent warlike alliance. 😃
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Skavau (15993)
2 months ago
>The West has bad birth rates and horrible demographic problem with migrants, many of whom hate or dislike the lands they settle in.
Depends on the migrants country of origin, in addition they help offset the wests current birth rate problem.
>The USA and the EU have officially sent $$$$ and tons of weapons and vehicles to Ukraine and yet you doubt the presence of troops in Ukraine. The world is burning down and the asshole is still wanking. Prove to me that there are no NATO soldiers fighting for Ukraine.
Sending equipment and weapons isn't sending troops to die. Dude, you think the UK, USA etc could somehow cover up soldiers on the frontline? Thousands would have died by now, but you can't provide a single credible example of a single US, UK, French, German etc soldier who has died fighting for Ukraine under the NATO banner. You are full of shit.
>Started by the globalists you praise and support incessantly. Jewish licker.
Who forced Russia to invade?
Piece of shit nazi.
>Demographic data. Many Asian (Indian, Chinese etc.) migrants. Less births among whites, less whites moving to the US: Italian community in NYC has shrunk, while the Chinatown is big and strong. Also, more and more Latinos, which explains the rise of soccer popularity.
The USA is becoming more hispanic than it is Asian, you cretinous moron.
In addition, football although popular in the Spanish-speaking world is popular quite a bit beyond that.
>GOOD. 😀
Which has nothing to do with China.
>Instead of trying to correct them (because you think they have to be corrected), why don't you correct your country?
And how should my country be corrected, specifically?
And all I do is point out that China has garbage civil liberties in discussions. Because it does.
>China outdoes the UK and its allies: What are you doing?
In what way?
>Instead of taking pleasure in your rival's defect again and again, why don't you focus on your country's or the West's merits and on rectifying its mistakes and neutralizing its flaws??? How will your master, the USA, return to number 1 (UK has long left the top five; if it is in the top 20 in 20 years it will be thanks to its nuclear bombs)? Wars?
Pointing out that China's population is collapsing isn't taking pleasure in it. It's just an observable reality.
>Hate each other? prove it. Hate is a strong word. If they hate something, it is the West. It is a GIGANTIC bloc formed to counter American $ and its allies.
India and China. Iran and UAE. What are the meaningful ties between South Africa and Ethiopia and Russia?
>Moreover, many people living in NATO territory hate NATO and the USA (its politics, not the average Yankee). Strong anti-NATO sentiment in Greece and in other lands of our decadent warlike alliance. 😃
Most NATO countries enjoy popular support. Greece is one of the few who opposes it. However, opinion on China:
https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2023/07/27/views-of-china/
Is even worse
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PSville (644)
2 months ago
>And how should my country be corrected, specifically
You are the one who will answer.
> In what way?
Stronger country and an independent one, not a servant to Jewish interests. Richer, more united and disciplined people, with many natural resources. It has everything. If we stop importing wares from China we are in big trouble! What are you doing??
> Pointing out that China's population is collapsing isn't taking pleasure in it. It's just an observable reality.
What are you doing to rival China, which is no pushover? You didn't answer.
>https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2023/07/27/views-of-china/
Haha let's say the data are correct. imagine how bigger and stronger China will be, when favorable percentages get higher! 🤣😂
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Skavau (15993)
2 months ago
>You are the one who will answer.
To what? UK has plenty of problems. I never denied this.
>Stronger country and an independent one, not a servant to Jewish interests.
How is the UK forced to serve "Jewish interests"?
How do you objectively verify that they are more disciplined?
China is much bigger than the UK, so of course it has more natural resources. What do you propose the UK do about that?
>What are you doing to rival China, which is no pushover? You didn't answer.
The UK can't rival China in raw numbers. It's much smaller.
>Haha let's say the data are correct. imagine how bigger and stronger China will be, when favorable percentages get higher! 🤣😂
On what basis do you assume the data is a lie?
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PSville (644)
2 months ago
>How is the UK forced to serve "Jewish interests"?
It serves Jewish interests in the Middle East and elsewhere. Labor or Tories, British support to Israel. The West (USA above all and then Germany perhaps) is servant to the "Chosen" People.
> How do you objectively verify that they are more disciplined?
Less freedom makes the people more prone to obey the authority. China has not big alcoholic or drug problems (in the West many alcoholics and junkies). Its society isn't divided between green, red and blue citizens etc.: no religious or sports conflicts, or clashes between political parties or between political partisans or persons of different ideologies, no Democrats vs Republicans shows/battles there, no anarchists vs leftists vs centrists vs etc., they are UNITED against you and me. Chinese are hardworking people of much different mindset and work for their nation's benefit.
>What do you propose the UK do about that?
Admit its loss of prestige & global influence and the rival's superiority.
>The UK can't rival China in raw numbers. It's much smaller.
I commend your humbleness.
>On what basis do you assume the data is a lie?
I don't. I HOPE IT IS TRUE. When percentages get higher, China will take a higher lead in the global race to hegemony. Let them be 1, they deserve the place. This will be better for us too: Every cloud has a silver lining.
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Skavau (15993)
2 months ago
>It serves Jewish interests in the Middle East and elsewhere. Labor or Tories, British support to Israel. The West (USA above all and then Germany perhaps) is servant to the "Chosen" People.
That's not an argument for the UK being FORCED to hold that position.
>Less freedom makes the people more prone to obey the authority. China has not big alcoholic or drug problems (in the West many alcoholics and junkies). Its society isn't divided between green, red and blue citizens etc.: no religious or sports conflicts, or clashes between political parties or between political partisans or persons of different ideologies, no Democrats vs Republicans shows/battles there, no anarchists vs leftists vs centrists vs etc., they are UNITED against you and me. Chinese are hardworking people of much different mindset and work for their nation's benefit.
This is why Chinese cultural and media power is so garbage. Censorship is toxic to art. It's why the USSR never had any impact culturally and the USA/west did.
Pod people society. I know you hate freedom, and hate people having the right to make choices and having some say in their governance. I know you're a repulsive fascist piece of shit. Why don't you fuck off to an authoritarian one-party dictatorship if you like it so much?
Is this your ideal society: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iz_9ZR-BuhY&ab_channel=Daya%27sCorner
And have you consider that the PRC, ever concerned with any public press, actively suppressed any negative aspects of their public life in a way that western democracies simply do not?
>Admit its loss of prestige & global influence and the rival's superiority.
China is just much more populated. It's not superior.
>I commend your humbleness.
Is Iceland somehow "inferior" to Spain? It's much smaller.
>I don't. I HOPE IT IS TRUE. When percentages get higher, China will take a higher lead in the global race to hegemony. Let them be 1, they deserve the place. This will be better for us too: Every cloud has a silver lining.
And how will it be better, you fascist hateful piece of shit?
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PSville (644)
2 months ago
>Is Iceland somehow "inferior" to Spain? It's much smaller.
Yes, it is inferior. There is absolutely no equality between nations. We live in a world where the UN, NGOs and others keep parroting about the stupid and nonsensical equality between human beings, but there's no such thing among countries, no lessons delivered about equality between ALL STATES. Inequality was, is and will be the norm. Some are much more powerful than others and control them: UK more powerful and influential than Peru, Peru superior to Paraguay, etc.
> And how will it be better, you fascist hateful piece of shit?
A more peaceful world. Chinese aren't wrong when they claim that War is the only thing not Made in China (at least not in modern China). They are smart and don’t need to start wars to remain in the top.
We need to admit our mistakes and flaws, gain self-knowledge, change policies, mindsets and bad habits. Boost our primary and industrial sectors. Relocate our industries, bring them back. The West is dependent too much on the tertiary sector.
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Skavau (15993)
2 months ago
>Yes, it is inferior. There is absolutely no equality between nations. We live in a world where the UN, NGOs and others keep parroting about the stupid and nonsensical equality between human beings, but there's no such thing among countries, no lessons delivered about equality between ALL STATES. Inequality was, is and will be the norm. Some are much more powerful than others and control them: UK more powerful and influential than Peru, Peru superior to Paraguay, etc.
What makes Iceland inferior? Are you purely going by population size?
>A more peaceful world. Chinese aren't wrong when they claim that War is the only thing not Made in China (at least not in modern China). They are smart and don’t need to start wars to remain in the top.
And how will this world look exactly? How will people be governed? Is your only metric for quality of life the presence of regional conflicts?
And what makes you think China, if the sole global power, wouldn't become aggressive?
>We need to admit our mistakes and flaws, gain self-knowledge, change policies, mindsets and bad habits. Boost our primary and industrial sectors. Relocate our industries, bring them back. The West is dependent too much on the tertiary sector.
Not sure what this has to do with China specifically, and how they govern themselves.
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