A church in France is in flames
This church is from 1854 and survived two world wars. Now it has fallen to multiculturalism.
https://x.com/PeterSweden7/status/1830552210502996456
Was it arson? What do you think?
This church is from 1854 and survived two world wars. Now it has fallen to multiculturalism.
https://x.com/PeterSweden7/status/1830552210502996456
Was it arson? What do you think?
Yup, 800-1000 church fires in France during the last four years is no coincidence or an act of nature.
shareNot true! Try to fact check next time.
https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/map-shows-all-alleged-crimes-against-churches-france-not-just-fires-2024-07-25/
Yes, definitely an arson committed by the Religion of Peace. But the secular French State doesn’t care. It only protects mosques, synagogues and a few touristy Christian churches.
shareWhat the fuck are you talking about? France is well known to be an aggressively secular state, with hijab restrictions in public.
shareFrance protects mosques and welcomes Muslims. It is a Muslim-friendly country.
shareWhat do you mean it "protects mosques"? How does it specifically protect mosques?
>It is a Muslim-friendly country.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-66634890
https://time.com/7000437/france-sporting-hijab-ban-olympics/
As far as I'm concerned, you are socially way more pro-Islam than most westerners.
Mosques in France are protected by police officers or gendarmes. There are thousands of Muslim places of worship in France, a very Muslim-friendly State.
share>Mosques in France are protected by police officers or gendarmes.
Any evidence for this? Or, rather, any evidence that they are disproportionately protected?
>There are thousands of Muslim places of worship in France, a very Muslim-friendly State.
Going to comment on the hijab restrictions I referred to above?
"Any evidence for this? Or, rather, any evidence that they are disproportionately protected?"
I've been to France and remember seeing officers or military (gendarmes) outside mosques.
"Going to comment on the hijab restrictions I referred to above?"
The hijab restrictions are implemented in order to give Christians and all anti-Muslims persons the ILLUSION that the secular, religiously neutral (laique, as French say) government is preventing the islamization of the country. My opinion is that they should lift such restrictions and impose other truly effective restrictions, namely, deport many thousands of Muslims, punish severely all illegals and drastically limit the number of mosques / places of Muslim worship. Another reason they should cancel such restrictions is because according to the Bible women should wear headscarves. So, in this regard, Christianity and Islam are on terms.
>I've been to France and remember seeing officers or military (gendarmes) outside mosques.
So no, you have no evidence. I have zero reason to trust your anecdote.
>The hijab restrictions are implemented in order to give French Christians and anti-Muslims the ILLUSION that the secular, religiously neutral
And how is it supposedly not secular and religiously neutral? Provide examples please.
>Another reason they should cancel such restrictions is because according to the Bible women should wear headscarves. So, in this regard, Christianity and Islam are on terms.
France is aggressively secular. If you're oh so supportive, and in favour of French customs, culture and tradition you would respect that. But I already know that you're actually a theofascist who wants the state to impose orthodox christianity on people.
"So no, you have no evidence. I have zero reason to trust your anecdote."
Muslims burn churches, even Notre Dame in 2019, but the French State guards mosques, which are never a target of Christian attacks. French Christians don’t burn mosques.
'And how is it supposedly not secular and religiously neutral? Provide examples please.'
Provide examples that the French State is hostile to Muslim populations.
France is aggressively secular against Christians and has been a non-Christian land for many decades. It is very respectful of Islam and allows Islamic funding.
>Muslims burn churches, even Notre Dame in 2019, but the French State guards mosques, which are never a target of Christian attacks. French Christians don’t burn mosques.
https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/mosque-set-on-fire-in-france-amid-rising-hate-crimes-46477
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/fire-burns-down-mosque-in-northern-france-report/2676150
https://www.globalvillagespace.com/mosque-door-deliberately-set-on-fire-in-france/
https://www.dailysabah.com/politics/eu-affairs/ditib-run-mosque-set-on-fire-by-anti-muslim-attack-in-france
https://en.abna24.com/story/1429481
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/suspected-shotgun-fire-targets-mosque-in-northwestern-france/3187447
https://maktoobmedia.com/world/mosque-set-on-fire-in-france-amid-rising-islamophobia/
What the fuck are you talking about?
>Provide examples that the French State is hostile to Muslim populations.
Being aggressively secular doesn't mean you are hostile. How is it the French state is somehow more hostile to Christians than Muslims in France, would be the better phrasing?
>France is aggressively secular against Christians and has been a non-Christian land for many decades. It is very respectful of Islam and allows Islamic funding.
What do you mean "allows Islamic funding"?
You can't compare the weak attacks you linked to the devastating and brutal attacks on churches or Christians. The Christian church in today's video has been completely destroyed, burned. The French priest and the professor and many others (Bataclan, Nice etc.) were killed. Christians in France don’t kill Muslims and don’t attack them. The attacks you linked are weak and most probably false flags to put blame on Christians and to allow Muslims to claim more rights and protection (which they don’t need) due to "Islamophobia".
' How is it the French state is somehow more hostile to Christians than Muslims in France'
French politicians and statesmen aren't afraid of the tolerant Christians. They are afraid of the aggressive Muslims who are capable of beheading you if you insult their prophet. Christians are naïve, and politically correct and thus the French State can make fun of their religion in public to the eyes of millions (see opening ceremony in the Olympic Games) without facing consequences.
" What do you mean "allows Islamic funding"?
Arabs funding the creation and maintenance of mosques or entities (organizations) promoting Islamic culture.
>You can't compare the weak attacks you linked to the devastating and brutal attacks on churches or Christians.
You claimed it doesn't happen. It clearly fucking does. Also not only muslims attack churches.
> The Christian church in today's video has been completely destroyed, burned. The French priest and the professor and many others (Bataclan, Nice etc.) were killed..
What the fuck are you talking about? There's nothing about anyone being killed in this fire.
> Christians in France don’t kill Muslims and don’t attack them.
So who did those mosque attacks? How do you know it wasn't some christians?
>The attacks you linked are weak and most probably false flags to put blame on Christians and to allow Muslims to claim more rights and protection (which they don’t need) due to "Islamophobia".
Got any evidence whatsoever that they were "probably false flags" at all?
>French politicians and statesmen aren't afraid of the tolerant Christians. They are afraid of the aggressive Muslims who are capable of beheading you if you insult their prophet. Christians are naïve, and politically correct and thus the French State can make fun of their religion in public to the eyes of millions (see opening ceremony in the Olympic Games) without facing consequences.
This isn't an answer. I want legislation. How does French legislation preference Islam.
>Arabs funding the creation and maintenance of mosques or entities (organizations) promoting Islamic culture.
Does France have laws on the book that prevent private money funding religious institutions? They also allow private funding for churches and synagogues.
'What the fuck are you talking about? There's nothing about anyone being killed in this fire.'
No one died by the arson in the church. The killing of priest and of a professor are past incidents.
' So who did those mosque attacks? How do you know it wasn't some christians?'
What attacks? Acts of protest or intolerance perhaps, but not attacks. If you show me an incident of a mosque burned or looted, then I may change my mind.
'This isn't an answer. I want legislation. How does French legislation preference Islam.'
It allows thousands and millions of Muslims to live in France and practice their faith (Despite the fact that many of them, especially those from Maghreb, hate France because it colonized them). It chants the stupid mantra of 'equality, fraternity and freedom', it is very friendly to migrants and generous providing benefits and easily allowing the arrival of a migrant's relatives (see Regroupement familial https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_reunification). It implements a suicidal anti-white policy. Muslims killed at least 170 French in 2015 and 90 in 2016 (slaughter in Nice) and what was the French State's response? Did it restrict islamization, which was the least measure to take? No.
' Does France have laws on the book that prevent private money funding religious institutions?'
France is essentially a secular country. Arab funding of Islamic extremists and filling France with mosques pose a threat to one of France's basic principles, the laicite, secularism.
>No one died by the arson in the church. The killing of priest and of a professor are past incidents.
Right, but we're talking about church burnings here.
>What attacks? Acts of protest or intolerance perhaps, but not attacks. If you show me an incident of a mosque burned or looted, then I may change my mind.
I literally gave you a stream of acts of arson or attempted acts of arson on French mosques.
>It allows thousands and millions of Muslims to live in France and practice their faith (Despite the fact that many of them, especially those from Maghreb, hate France because it colonized them).
Is there there a law that specifically permits Muslims because of their religion to move and settle in France?
>. It chants the stupid mantra of 'equality, fraternity and freedom', it is very friendly to migrants and generous providing benefits and easily allowing the arrival of a migrant's relatives (see Regroupement familial https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_reunification).
Again, this isn't specifically for Muslims.
>It implements a suicidal anti-white policy. Muslims killed at least 170 French in 2015 and 90 in 2016 (slaughter in Nice) and what was the French State's response? Did it restrict islamization, which was the least measure to take? No.
What would you have had them do?
>France is essentially a secular country. Arab funding of Islamic extremists and filling France with mosques pose a threat to one of France's basic principles, the laicite, secularism.
That may be so, but you're suggesting here that France somehow allows funding for mosques, but forbids it for other religious institutions. This is just not true.
I'll also note you provided no evidence that attacks on mosques were false flag attacks, nor how you know every instance of church arson was caused by muslims.
' I literally gave you a stream of acts of arson or attempted acts of arson on French mosques.'
None of them serious, none having the intensity of Muslim attacks on Christians.
" Is there there a law that specifically permits Muslims because of their religion to move and settle in France?"
France's migratory policy is very lax. In the 60s De Gaulle allowed Maghreb migrants to settle in France. Since then, their number has increased and has been increasing.
"Again, this isn't specifically for Muslims."
It is a law that favors the country's islamization, a law that the Muslim population will do its best to safeguard.
' What would you have had them do?'
Execute the killers, deport or/and kill extreme imams and Fiches S (public enemies), close several mosques, limit or completely prohibit migration from Islamic countries etc. In other words, reasonable lax measures.
' France somehow allows funding for mosques, but forbids it for other religious institutions.'
The French Catholic Church is poor, receives minor funding and isn't a threat to society. Priests don’t preach killing or hurting nonbelievers in the name of God. Gulf Arabs on the other hand are filthy rich, conservative, pious, and finance the islamization of France, England etc. Sadly, a large part of that money backs extremists that want to bring the law of Sharia.
>None of them serious, none having the intensity of Muslim attacks on Christians.
Based on what?
https://www.dailysabah.com/politics/eu-affairs/ditib-run-mosque-set-on-fire-by-anti-muslim-attack-in-france
"The mosque suffered significant damage after three Molotov cocktails were placed on its walls by unidentified assailants and set alight."
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/fire-burns-down-mosque-in-northern-france-report/2676150
This mosque was literally burnt to the ground.
>France's migratory policy is very lax. In the 60s De Gaulle allowed Maghreb migrants to settle in France. Since then, their number has increased and has been increasing.
That's not what I asked you: I'll try again: Is there there a law that specifically permits Muslims because of their religion to move and settle in France?
>It is a law that favors the country's islamization, a law that the Muslim population will do its best to safeguard.
No, it's "friendly" to all migrants who would come in. Not specifically just muslims.
>The French Catholic Church is poor, receives minor funding and isn't a threat to society.
Does the French government fund mosques, but not fund churches?
>Priests don’t preach killing or hurting nonbelievers in the name of God. Gulf Arabs on the other hand are filthy rich, conservative, pious, and finance the islamization of France, England etc. Sadly, a large part of that money backs extremists that want to bring the law of Sharia.
Right, this is an issue with Gulf Arabs and not the French state. The French state is not funding Imams.
And I'll continue, because you STILL won't address this:
I'll also note you provided no evidence that attacks on mosques were false flag attacks, nor how you know every instance of church arson was caused by muslims.
"Fire burns down mosque in northern France: Report"
This is a Turkish website. Turkey doesn’t have good relations with France. The news may not be reliable and the building could have been something else, a simple shed. 🤣
"That's not what I asked you: I'll try again: Is there there a law that specifically permits Muslims because of their religion to move and settle in France?"
Unlike Hungary, Poland and other countries, the French State maintains a Muslim-friendly policy and allows them to settle in its territory.
"No, it's "friendly" to all migrants who would come in. Not specifically just muslims."
Did I say that it only favours Muslims and only lets them enter the country? Of course not, under the Kalergi plan, nonwhite of any origin and any religion is to be accepted.
"Does the French government fund mosques, but not fund churches?"
The French State's policies over the decades have de-Christianized the country (it became secular early in the 20th century) and promote atheism. France and other democratic countries don’t want Christian church to have power, a say in decisions. An atheist State shouldn't have been so tolerant of Islam.
"you provided no evidence that attacks on mosques were false flag attacks"
You did not provide any evidence that they were committed by Christians or anti-Muslims or that they were attacks. I cannot take seriously the Turkish website linked as source of reference.
>This is a Turkish website. Turkey doesn’t have good relations with France. The news may not be reliable and the building could have been something else, a simple shed. 🤣
Any evidence for this whatsoever? Or are you just assuming this based on fucking nothing?
>Unlike Hungary, Poland and other countries, the French State maintains a Muslim-friendly policy and allows them to settle in its territory.
NOT WHAT I ASKED YOU. Stop being such a piece of shit coward and answer the question.
Is there a law on french books that specifically grants muslims SPECIAL RIGHTS to move and settle in France that it does not grant anyone else?
Answer the question you fucking coward
>Did I say that it only favours Muslims and only lets them enter the country? Of course not, under the Kalergi plan, nonwhite of any origin and any religion is to be accepted.
Yes, you keep implying this.
Provide evidence that the "Kalergi Plan" is literally a part of French policy.
>The French State's policies over the decades have de-Christianized the country (it became secular early in the 20th century) and promote atheism. France and other democratic countries don’t want Christian church to have power, a say in decisions. An atheist State shouldn't have been so tolerant of Islam.
That's not a fucking answer. Does the French government FUND mosques and not fund churches? Yes or no?
>You did not provide any evidence that they were committed by Christians or anti-Muslims or that they were attacks. I cannot take seriously the Turkish website linked as source of reference.
I gave you a bunch of websites, and different sources. Many did not come from Turkey.
I'll also note that you have no fucking evidence that muslims specifically are responsible for all church burnings in france. You just assume that they are.
" Any evidence for this whatsoever? "
Does it look like a mosque to you? Its metallic skeleton is that of sheds used in open-air markets. After all, we can easily build a hut, label it "Christian place of worship", burn it and then accuse Muslims of arson.
" Is there a law on french books that specifically grants muslims
SPECIAL RIGHTS to move and settle in France that it does not grant anyone else?"
That's not needed to Islamize a country. Allowing millions of Muslim migrants to live in France and bring family members is enough to achieve the goal.
"Provide evidence that the "Kalergi Plan" is literally a part of French policy."
It is not officially part of any policy. No globalist statesman will ever say they implement the plan, even when they follow its instructions to the letter.
"Does the French government FUND mosques and not fund churches? Yes or no?"
Some municipalities may fund the maintenance of old historical places of worship, regardless of religion.
"muslims specifically are responsible for all church burnings in france. You just assume that they are."
The authorities are ordered to avoid publicizing the identity of arsonists, unless these are Christians or 'fascists'. However, if a Muslim attacks a synagogue, then yes, in this case, pictures of him will be posted online and every major news outlet will be required to denounce anti-Semitism on its home page. This is what happened after the recent FAILED attack on Grande-Motte synagogue (try to imagine what would have ensued if the synagogue was destroyed or damaged!).
>Does it look like a mosque to you? Its metallic skeleton is that of sheds used in open-air markets. After all, we can easily build a hut, label it "Christian place of worship", burn it and then accuse Muslims of arson.
https://www.newsflare.com/video/513909/mosque-burned-to-the-ground-in-paris-suburb-in-suspected-criminal-incident
Not all mosques or churches are large.
And small, or large, I'll await evidence that it was a false flag attack.
>That's not needed to Islamize a country. Allowing millions of Muslim migrants to live in France and bring family members is enough to achieve the goal.
Your original point was that France grants special rights to Muslims who want to come and move there. If they don't, are you going to withdraw your original claim?
>It is not officially part of any policy. No globalist statesman will ever say they implement the plan, even when they follow its instructions to the letter.
So am I right in hearing you have no fucking evidence here then?
>Some municipalities may fund the maintenance of old historical places of worship, regardless of religion.
Right, so France doesn't specifically promote Islam or fund Islam in a way it doesn't do so for Christianity.
>The authorities are ordered to avoid publicizing the identity of arsonists, unless these are Christians or 'fascists'.
Provide evidence for this claim please.
"Not all mosques or churches are large."
The outhouse burned may have been something different before conversion into a "mosque". It looks very cheap, simple, a shed, a structure of little value. Even if it was a mosque burned by nonbelievers, it has no historical value and its burning cannot be compared to that of Notre-Dame or the burned church built about 170 years ago.
" If they don't, are you going to withdraw your original claim?"
I don't remember writing that Asian or African Muslim migrants enjoy more rights than other migrants. They enjoy all the rights needed to Islamize a nation.
" So am I right in hearing you have no fucking evidence here then?"
Evidence? Their policies in the last decades and consequences are clear evidence.
" Right, so France doesn't specifically promote Islam or fund Islam in a way it doesn't do so for Christianity."
When Islamists with or without French citizenship kill Christians, the State is required to take measures to protect the Christian population. By not doing so, it favours expansion of Islam. If drug dealers commit crimes in your city and the police don’t stop them, then the State grants them carte blanche.
"Provide evidence for this claim please."
Evidence? Open your eyes and mind and you'll see all kinds of evidence. Many churches are targeted or burned, no picture of arsonist. ONE synagogue is attacked without damage, incident covered even on American media and publication of the attacker's face. In Germany about ten days ago, a Syrian adult killed at least three whites and yet it was very hard for me to find ONE picture of the killer! Don't you understand that some groups of people (Jews, Muslims, negroes, lgbt) are treated differently by the Fourth Estate at the expense of the majority?
>The outhouse burned may have been something different before conversion into a "mosque". It looks very cheap, simple, a shed, a structure of little value. Even if it was a mosque burned by nonbelievers, it has no historical value and its burning cannot be compared to that of Notre-Dame or the burned church built about 170 years ago.
Both of which you are assuming were burned by Muslims.
>I don't remember writing that Asian or African Muslim migrants enjoy more rights than other migrants. They enjoy all the rights needed to Islamize a nation.
Assuming this is the trajectory, it is incidental. The french government doesn't construct policy in favour for them.
>Evidence? Their policies in the last decades and consequences are clear evidence.
No, it's not. White people having less kids and increased immigration is not evidence of a state conspiracy to deliberately replace white people.
>When Islamists with or without French citizenship kill Christians, the State is required to take measures to protect the Christian population.
They do. They arrest the Islamists (or anyone). Are you saying that every time a member of a religion murders someone everyone else in that religion should be held responsible?
Also what about French atheists? Why do you keep saying Christians as if atheists aren't a huge part of French demographics?
>Evidence? Open your eyes and mind and you'll see all kinds of evidence. Many churches are targeted or burned, no picture of arsonist.
Except for the times where there ARE pictures or people named.
Update: https://www.lemonde.fr/en/france/article/2024/09/03/man-detained-after-church-fire-in-northern-france_6724571_7.html
A man has been arrested.
https://news.sky.com/story/france-suspected-nantes-cathedral-arsonist-arrested-over-dramatic-assassination-of-catholic-priest-12377401
https://cne.news/article/2466-french-police-arrest-suspected-church-arsonist
>ONE synagogue is attacked without damage, incident covered even on American media and publication of the attacker's face. In Germany about ten days ago, a Syrian adult killed at least three whites and yet it was very hard for me to find ONE picture of the killer!
Has the German state concealed the identity of the killer? Are you needing to specifically see them? Your claim was that French and German authorities hide who did it, yet you then point to events where they did no such thing.
>Don't you understand that some groups of people (Jews, Muslims, negroes, lgbt) are treated differently by the Fourth Estate at the expense of the majority?
No. You've presented no fucking evidence of this. There are plenty of incidents where the identity of the assailant, who may or may not be muslim or arabic in origin are revealed.
Although a quick google on this indicates that many French church burnings were not committed by Muslims.
No, it's not. White people having less kids and increased immigration is not evidence of a state conspiracy to deliberately replace white people.
The western States pass bills that impoverish people and sap traditional values. In the previous decade, both French and UK Cabinets voted in favor of same-sex wedding and allow Lgbt flags and signs even in city centres and same-sex or trans propaganda in schools. In Greece, the same bill was passed last year after the June 2023 elections and without the government announcing its intentions before! Instead of protecting family values, the leftist or even right-wing liberal governments work against the local indigenous population.
" They do. They arrest the Islamists (or anyone)."
So what? They detain or jail them for a while, feed them with Nutella, pizzas and then release them. Islamists aren't afraid of imprisonment in the West.
" A man has been arrested."
No picture or name of the criminal. This is suspicious.
"Has the German state concealed the identity of the killer? Are you needing to specifically see them?"
Yes, his face must be shown to the public in order for the public to help police in their manhunt and because if he were a white man, pictures of him would have been publicized on many sites. Double standards. Recently, a white man attacked a girl in central London, his face was shown again and again.
"There are plenty of incidents where the identity of the assailant, who may or may not be muslim or arabic in origin are revealed."
If the assailant is white straight, then his or her face must be shown. If he's trans, gay, brown, or black and of different religion, then the politically correct media often hesitate to publicize pictures and sometimes they blur pictures. Left's rules of inequality are different and depend on an assailant's and victim's race, gender, origin, sexual orientation and religion.
>The western States pass bills that impoverish people and sap traditional values.
What bills are these?
>In the previous decade, both French and UK Cabinets voted in favor of same-sex wedding and allow Lgbt flags and signs even in city centres and same-sex or trans propaganda in schools.
On the back of public support.
We've been through this in the thread you bitched out of like a coward. UK culture and western european culture is increasingly less religious. We see no reason to persecute LGBT people. Gay people existing doesn't have anything to do with straight people having less kids.
I know you are a piece of shit theofascist who wants the state to persecute LGBT people, but that's not how we are. Who the fuck are you to tell us how we should construct policy?
> In Greece, the same bill was passed last year after the June 2023 elections and without the government announcing its intentions before! Instead of protecting family values, the leftist or even right-wing liberal governments work against the local indigenous population.
https://www.ekathimerini.com/news/1229328/nearly-55-of-greeks-support-gay-marriage-and-53-adoption-poll-finds/
Most greeks support gay marriage and adoption.
>So what? They detain or jail them for a while, feed them with Nutella, pizzas and then release them. Islamists aren't afraid of imprisonment in the West.
They "detain and jail" anyone who commits a crime. I'll await evidence of an Islamist released after committing a murder.
>No picture or name of the criminal. This is suspicious.
It will come out.
>Yes, his face must be shown to the public in order for the public to help police in their manhunt and because if he were a white man, pictures of him would have been publicized on many sites.
You fucking moron. The German stabber HAS ALREADY BEEN CAUGHT. They have already revealed he was a refugee. What are they hiding?
>If the assailant is white straight, then his or her face must be shown. If he's trans, gay, brown, or black and of different religion, then the politically correct media often hesitate to publicize pictures and sometimes they blur pictures. Left's rules of inequality are different and depend on an assailant's and victim's race, gender, origin, sexual orientation and religion.
Zero evidence for this claim.
"What bills are these?"
Anti-farming policies, climate change tyranny, funding of the war industry and the Ukraine war, no investment on developing technologies and making the Western countries competitive and productive (most production is outsourced, millions of posts are given to non-Europeans, non-whites).
"On the back of public support."
On the back of a small minority backed by NGOs, lobbies and NWO. No referenda held on that matter.
" We see no reason to persecute LGBT people."
When you enter schools, kindergartens, paint avenues and streets with your flags, there is a plausible reason to hold lgbt back. We live in a society very tolerant of them and this must come to an end, lest we face dire consequences.
" Most greeks support gay marriage and adoption."
Don’t trust polls! Kathimerini is a right-wing paper, once conservative but now controlled by the globalist agenda.
" I'll await evidence of an Islamist released after committing a murder."
They don't need to release Islamist murderers to pass their agenda. Some Islamists will remain in lax prisons in order for the State to give us the illusion that it cares for us and protects us.
"The German stabber HAS ALREADY BEEN CAUGHT. They have already revealed he was a refugee. What are they hiding?"
Many media hid his face and motives. The fact that it was so difficult to find ONE picture of his face means a lot. I repeat if he were white, then tons of pictures online.
"Zero evidence for this claim."
Visit mass media and you'll find evidence.
>Anti-farming policies, climate change tyranny, funding of the war industry and the Ukraine war, no investment on developing technologies and making the Western countries competitive and productive (most production is outsourced, millions of posts are given to non-Europeans, non-whites).
How does this, specifically, sap "traditional values"?
Also, can I see specific policies you're referring to, and what "climate change tyranny" you're referring to? Stop speaking in generalities.
>On the back of a small minority backed by NGOs, lobbies and NWO. No referenda held on that matter.
I am in the UK. The vast majority of the country supports gay marriage, gay adoption and LGBT rights in general. Do not presume to dictate to me what the UK thinks. Is that clear, fuckface?
>When you enter schools, kindergartens, paint avenues and streets with your flags, there is a plausible reason to hold lgbt back.
And what does "hold LGBT back" look like, exactly?
What policies?
>We live in a society very tolerant of them and this must come to an end, lest we face dire consequences.
What consequences would these be?
>Don’t trust polls! Kathimerini is a right-wing paper, once conservative but now controlled by the globalist agenda.
And why the fuck should I trust you? You have a track record for regurgitating misinformation and lies.
>Many media hid his face and motives. The fact that it was so difficult to find ONE picture of his face means a lot. I repeat if he were white, then tons of pictures online.
>They don't need to release Islamist murderers to pass their agenda. Some Islamists will remain in lax prisons in order for the State to give us the illusion that it cares for us and protects us.
I'll await evidence that Islamists enjoy better prison conditions that any other inmate in UK or French or German jails.
He wasn't KNOWN until he was caught. Then he was dragged out of a building. There was never any public manhunt for him. He was caught within a day.
>Visit mass media and you'll find evidence.
Horseshit. You make claims, you back them up.
I consider you a lying piece of shit fascist, so I have zero reason to take anything you say seriously. You are already on record saying that you don't think I should have the right to be pro-liberal in public, and that you think liberals should be persecuted.
" How does this, specifically, sap "traditional values"?"
Promoting mass migration and homosexuality saps traditional values.
" Also, can I see specific policies you're referring to, and what "climate change tyranny" you're referring to? Stop speaking in generalities."
They use the climate change hoax as a means to incriminate and control people: You are a burden on the planet, polluting and destroying it. As a result, they think world population must be greatly reduced (500 million? 1 billion?) and lgbt are perfect pawns serving this agenda. Climate change also serves the migration policy and killing of the white race: Afro-Asian invaders claim to be climate 'refugees', whose countries are damaged or destroyed by the bad West's impact on climate (rising of sea levels and temperatures) and therefore they have the right to settle in the bad West.
" And what does "hold LGBT back" look like, exactly?"
No lgbt prides or events, no propaganda in schools / colleges, no lgbt flags / signs in public, funding of medical research to find therapies etc. Note that I condemn use of violence on them.
"What consequences would these be?"
Domination of sexual perversion, materialism. A society of individualism, insanity and narcissism, death of nuclear family.
"And why the fuck should I trust you?"
Because I don't win anything from this debate with you! I mean I'm not paid to promote any ideology. Kathimerini and other venal media are funded by liberal agenda. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petsas_list Then in 2022 or last year the rightwing liberal government donated more millions to media.
"I'll await evidence that Islamists enjoy better prison conditions"
I never said Islamists enjoy better prison times. I meant that lax jail system in the European West is marred by liberalism, political correctness.
>Promoting mass migration and homosexuality saps traditional values.
How? Be specific.
>They use the climate change hoax as a means to incriminate and control people
And how are they doing that? How are people "incriminated" and controlled? And where is your evidence that it is a hoax?
> As a result, they think world population must be greatly reduced (500 million? 1 billion?) and lgbt are perfect pawns serving this agenda.
Who is "they" and how are they attempting to reduce the global population?
> Climate change also serves the migration policy and killing of the white race: Afro-Asian invaders claim to be climate 'refugees'
This is completely for the future. Give me examples of people, in large numbers, accepted on the grounds of climate.
>No lgbt prides or events, no propaganda in schools / colleges, no lgbt flags / signs in public, funding of medical research to find therapies etc.
So you continue to be a piece of shit fascist who hates free speech and wants to persecute LGBT people. What if LGBT people don't consent to therapies?
>Domination of sexual perversion, materialism. A society of individualism, insanity and narcissism, death of nuclear family.
Objectively define "perversion". Why is gay sex somehow inherently worse than heterosexual sex?
What is your objection, specifically to individualism? Plenty of people are still having kids in a mother-father association. The nuclear family has not died.
>Because I don't win anything from this debate with you!
What the fuck does that matter? You're on record for being a hateful lying piece of shit.
>I mean I'm not paid to promote any ideology. Kathimerini and other venal media are funded by liberal agenda. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petsas_list Then in 2022 or last year the rightwing liberal government donated more millions to media.
Still waiting for evidence that the polling here on LGBT rights in Greece was falsified. You have provided absolutely none.
>I never said Islamists enjoy better prison times. I meant that lax jail system in the European West is marred by liberalism, political correctness.
Right, so *everyone* "enjoys" decent prison conditions. You might as well be complaining about anyone being sent to jail for a long time.
"How? Be specific."
By accepting lgbt ideology, voting same-sex wedding, allowing gays to adopt children etc.
"Who is "they" and how are they attempting to reduce the global population?"
Globalists, WEF, liberal leaders, billionaires like S*ros, Blackrock, Vanguard. Methods to reduce population involve spread of lgbt propaganda, because those persons all share one common feature, they don't produce children. Others methods include pandemics, mass vaccination, wars (WWIII being more probable than ever before), destruction of the nuclear family, climate change hoax etc.
" How are people "incriminated" and controlled? "
Climate change is weaponized to control people. Governments levy taxes and charges on basic items and pass laws in the name of climate change: we need to pay for supermarket bags, a charge of 10 cents in Greece every time you buy coffee etc. In Denmark, cow farts will be taxed (animal methane tax)... They incriminate common people by instilling in their minds the guilt for pollution, high CO2 levels, ice melting, and by promoting carbon-free footprint (plane passengers harm Earth), veganism (Meat is crime, murder), gluten-free diet.
" Give me examples of people, in large numbers, accepted"
So far, not many Africans. Megacity Lagos is arguably threatened by rise of sea levels. A country in southeast Africa is also threatened. In the years to come, more and more will claim being victims of "climate change" caused by the evil West, as a way to gain the status of refugee among 'evil' men.
"What if LGBT people don't consent to therapies?"
Medical technology allows men to gain female appearance or vice versa, I think it can cure such men or women, can change their mind and annihilate their desire to change gender or identify themselves as asexual /non-binary.
>By accepting lgbt ideology, voting same-sex wedding, allowing gays to adopt children etc.
No, the people of the UK have accepted this.
>Globalists, WEF, liberal leaders, billionaires like S*ros, Blackrock, Vanguard. Methods to reduce population involve spread of lgbt propaganda, because those persons all share one common feature, they don't produce children.
They are not responsible for straight people refusing to have children. And why would they promote LGBT integration into child-rearing (adoption, surrogacy, sperm donation) if they're all about reducing the global population? Your argument makes no sense.
Not that you've provided a single piece of evidence that LGBT acceptance in the western world is due to those organisations.
>Others methods include pandemics, mass vaccination, wars (WWIII being more probable than ever before), destruction of the nuclear family, climate change hoax etc.
If that's so, then why don't these people just get the USA to directly attack Russia or China and kickstart WW3? Why don't they just get the USA to fire off nukes?
And the nuclear family hasn't been destroyed.
>Climate change is weaponized to control people. Governments levy taxes and charges on basic items and pass laws in the name of climate change: we need to pay for supermarket bags, a charge of 10 cents in Greece every time you buy coffee etc. In Denmark, cow farts will be taxed (animal methane tax)... They incriminate common people by instilling in their minds the guilt for pollution, high CO2 levels, ice melting, and by promoting carbon-free footprint (plane passengers harm Earth), veganism (Meat is crime, murder), gluten-free diet.
Governments tax all sorts of things to varying degrees.
No-one is forced to be vegan. No-one is forced to be vegetarian. Show me a single government that specifically promotes or pressures people to be either.
You have presented no evidence that climate change is a hoax.
>So far, not many Africans. Megacity Lagos is arguably threatened by rise of sea levels. A country in southeast Africa is also threatened. In the years to come, more and more will claim being victims of "climate change" caused by the evil West, as a way to gain the status of refugee among 'evil' men.
If climate change is a hoax, as you claim, then how could Lagos be threatened by rising ocean levels?
And predictions aren't evidence.
>Medical technology allows men to gain female appearance or vice versa, I think it can cure such men or women, can change their mind and annihilate their desire to change gender or identify themselves as asexual /non-binary.
That is not what I asked you, fuckface.
What if LGBT people do not consent to such medical experiments?
"No, the people of the UK have accepted this."
Provide evidence that the UK people have accepted this. Electoral results aren't evidence.
"And why would they promote LGBT integration into child-rearing (adoption, surrogacy, sperm donation) if they're all about reducing the global population?"
Lgbt don’t care about families, don’t want raising children. They want promotion, rights and domination over the straight majority. Have you seen pregnant lesbians, having sex with a man just for the sake of becoming a mother?
" Not that you've provided a single piece of evidence that LGBT acceptance in the western world is due to those organisations."
NGOs, entertainment industry and many mass media promote and support trans trash. Just look how many lesbians or trans play in Hollywood movies. Hollywood and TV series producers didn’t ask me and you whether we wanted lesbians in their movies. They just cast lesbians and gays, blacks in the roles of whites, because their target is white people, their aim to destroy family and white majority.
" Why don't they just get the USA to fire off nukes?"
Russia's nukes are more numerous and powerful. Globalists don’t want to die, they only want to see you and me dead. But I'm sure they’ll be glad to see Baltic and Eastern European lands nuked.
" No-one is forced to be vegan. No-one is forced to be vegetarian."
I didn't say there's a law making veganism mandatory. They try to spread guilt among us, if you eat meat and drink milk, you are evil or do harm to Earth etc. We should eat more vegetarian foods, but without completely excluding meat and dairies.
" how could Lagos be threatened by rising ocean levels?"
Lagos's not threatened, they want us to believe it is threatened.
"What if LGBT people do not consent to such medical experiments?"
If they refuse to participate in such experiments, they’ll be penalized, just like millions of anti-vaxxers were penalized during the COVID pandemic. I'm being lenient.
>Provide evidence that the UK people have accepted this. Electoral results aren't evidence.
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/trackers/support-for-marriage-of-same-sex-couple
We have mainstream comedians, actors, celebrities, musicians who are gay publicly. No-one fucking cares. Many of them are highly popular figures: Graham Norton, Stephen Fry, Ian McKellen, Alan Carr, Ryan Clark.
>Lgbt don’t care about families, don’t want raising children. They want promotion, rights and domination over the straight majority. Have you seen pregnant lesbians, having sex with a man just for the sake of becoming a mother?
You don't need to have sex with a man in order to get their sperm, genius.
>NGOs, entertainment industry and many mass media promote and support trans trash.
The entertainment industry happens to be made up of many Brits. Many NGOs are also British. They aren't organisations that exists independently of earth.
>Just look how many lesbians or trans play in Hollywood movies.
How many? Name them. There are some lesbians as characters in shows and films. I have no idea what world you're living on if you think trans-depictions are normal. They just are not.
>Hollywood and TV series producers didn’t ask me and you whether we wanted lesbians in their movies. They just cast lesbians and gays, blacks in the roles of whites, because their target is white people, their aim to destroy family and white majority.
You really are a vile piece of shit. Why would they need to "ask" anyone anything? Writers, producers, screenrunners can cast who they want for whatever they want. If you don't like that a gay person is in a show or film. Don't watch it. You don't get to dictate what media is made. Fascist scumbag. And there's zero reason to think that merely depicting a gay person constitutes a deliberate effort to "destroy family". That is your delusional conspiracy mentality.
>Russia's nukes are more numerous and powerful. Globalists don’t want to die, they only want to see you and me dead. But I'm sure they’ll be glad to see Baltic and Eastern European lands nuked.
It doesn't matter if Russia has more nukes if everywhere ends up a wasteland as a response.
And I'll await evidence that Russia's nukes are more powerful.
>I didn't say there's a law making veganism mandatory. They try to spread guilt among us, if you eat meat and drink milk, you are evil or do harm to Earth etc. We should eat more vegetarian foods, but without completely excluding meat and dairies.
Who is "they" that try to spread this guilt?
>Lagos's not threatened, they want us to believe it is threatened.
I'll await evidence from you on this.
>If they refuse to participate in such experiments, they’ll be penalized, just like millions of anti-vaxxers were penalized during the COVID pandemic. I'm being lenient.
No you're being a scumbag fascist piece of shit. You hate freedom of speech and want to control people's lives.
You would be despised in the UK, and if you were a public figure denied entry. You are as evil to me as a nazi. Why should I not view you as akin to that?
" There was never any public manhunt for him."
The killer ran away but was eventually caught after several hours.
"You are already on record saying that you don't think I should have the right to be pro-liberal in public, and that you think liberals should be persecuted."
What do you think about British government's persecution of patriots?
>What do you think about British government's persecution of patriots?
I think you're engaging in a false premise.
Provide evidence that the UK government is persecuting "patriots".
"Why is gay sex somehow inherently worse than heterosexual sex?"
Because it's inferior sex, as you don't generate children. It is sex made only for pleasure, for hedonistic reasons.
"Still waiting for evidence that the polling here on LGBT rights in Greece was falsified."
Your demand for evidence is overrated. Polls and surveys can easily be falsified and used for propaganda. Would you accept the result of a survey by an alt-right media, according to which 90% of Britons want lgbt gagged?
" You might as well be complaining about anyone being sent to jail for a long time."
If someone's jail time is very long, decades-long, it's better for both sides (prisoner and State/society) to have them killed.
" Provide evidence that the UK government is persecuting "patriots".
If you publicly disagree with the UK Cabinet on hot issues controlled by the globalists, you may end up in jail.
https://www.gmp.police.uk/news/greater-manchester/news/news/2024/august/three-men-sentenced-for-total-of-seven-years-eight-months-for-their-roles-in-disorder-across-greater-manchester/
An English mother of 6 is sent to jail for 2 years for throwing a brick at the police.
https://www.irishnews.com/news/uk/mother-of-six-who-threw-brick-at-police-during-violent-protest-jailed-7OI6KQWN2JM4ZGKMW3P6TXC2MI/
>Because it's inferior sex, as you don't generate children. It is sex made only for pleasure, for hedonistic reasons.
Plenty of straight people have sex for pleasure, and only pleasure. Who gives a fuck?
>Your demand for evidence is overrated.
I don't give a fuck. What you insist without evidence I can dismiss without evidence. I think you're a lying hateful fascist piece of shit and will never agree with anything you say if you present no evidence.
>Polls and surveys can easily be falsified and used for propaganda. Would you accept the result of a survey by an alt-right media, according to which 90% of Britons want lgbt gagged?
I would want to read how they got the data. I am awaiting evidence from you that all Yougov polling from the UK about LGBT people is false, and all polling from Greece about LGBT people is false.
As usual you are being a cowardly piece of shit and not providing anything.
>If someone's jail time is very long, decades-long, it's better for both sides (prisoner and State/society) to have them killed.
Okay, maybe or maybe not - but that's another discussion entirely.
>If you publicly disagree with the UK Cabinet on hot issues controlled by the globalists, you may end up in jail.
https://www.gmp.police.uk/news/greater-manchester/news/news/2024/august/three-men-sentenced-for-total-of-seven-years-eight-months-for-their-roles-in-disorder-across-greater-manchester/
They were rioting. Are you of the opinion that rioting is patriotic? Should the police do nothing about that?
What does rioting have to do with disagreeing or agreeing with the UK cabinet?
>An English mother of 6 is sent to jail for 2 years for throwing a brick at the police.
https://www.irishnews.com/news/uk/mother-of-six-who-threw-brick-at-police-during-violent-protest-jailed-7OI6KQWN2JM4ZGKMW3P6TXC2MI/
Are you implying it should be legal to throw bricks at police?
" Are you of the opinion that rioting is patriotic?"
I don't remember the police arresting blacks freaking out during the George Floyd incident and their riots were extremely devastating: massive looting of stores, supermarkets, pharmacies etc. Why do black people have that privilege?
" Are you implying it should be legal to throw bricks at police?"
Two years in jail for throwing one brick is too much, a sentence motivated by hate. If she were black or brown, they would simply detain the woman for a few hours or a couple of days.
If she were black or brown, they would simply detain the woman for a few hours or a couple of days
No, they aren't treated more harshly. That’s a myth. US officers kill or injure white men too, but media will only show blacks being shot by the police. We are supposed to care only for BLM, negroes, black thugs. Nope, that’s not something I accept.
sharehttps://www.ussc.gov/research/research-reports/2023-demographic-differences-federal-sentencing
He's talking about sentencing.
As they should be.
Act like a savage, get treated like a savage.
>I don't remember the police arresting blacks freaking out during the George Floyd incident and their riots were extremely devastating: massive looting of stores, supermarkets, pharmacies etc. Why do black people have that privilege?
Is the UK the USA now?
We're talking about the UK, you fucking moron.
>Two years in jail for throwing one brick is too much, a sentence motivated by hate. If she were black or brown, they would simply detain the woman for a few hours or a couple of days.
Not what I fucking asked you.
Should it be legal to throw bricks at the police? Does that sort of act constitute a "patriotic" response to government policy?
Also, stop FUCKING LYING.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0l8pk0964no
Non-white counter-rioters were jailed.
Stop talking about shit you know NOTHING about. Fucking scumbag.
"We're talking about the UK, you fucking moron."
Hundreds of pro-Palestine protests and pro-climate activists, have you ever seen the police stopping or imprisoning any of them? Whenever British patriots take to the streets, they are surrounded by police.
"Also, stop FUCKING LYING."
A woman throwing a brick is much less dangerous than driving in a reckless manner. The two offences are incomparable, of different category.
"Stop talking about shit you know NOTHING about."
I know very well. A mother of 6 is severely punished and the only thing you have to say is to insult me again and again and imply that your country's judicial system is fair!!
>Hundreds of pro-Palestine protests and pro-climate activists, have you ever seen the police stopping or imprisoning any of them?
Got any examples of pro-palestine activists throwing bricks at police, looting stores, smashing windows and trying to set buildings on fire?
>Whenever British patriots take to the streets, they are surrounded by police.
They were there to storm mosques or hotels.
Also, is it the mark of a "patriot" to lob bricks at police or try to smash windows and loot?
>A woman throwing a brick is much less dangerous than driving in a reckless manner.
What the fuck are you talking about? Are people being allowed to "drive in a reckless manner" or something?
>I know very well. A mother of 6 is severely punished and the only thing you have to say is to insult me again and again and imply that your country's judicial system is fair!!
I always insult fascists such as yourself. You don't think I should have the right to argue against you. Why the fuck should I be nice to you?
Everyone got harsh sentences for their participation in the riots. This happened in 2011 too. Punishments in this sense are relative.
" Got any examples of pro-palestine activists throwing bricks at police"
Countless of Palestine flags in the rallies, but when you have tens of British flags, then the police are bound to arrest some of those 'fascists' waving Union flags.
" They were there to storm mosques or hotels."
I'm talking about patriotic rallies in general. You are referring to the protests that occurred after the murder of three girls and are more or less justified.
>Countless of Palestine flags in the rallies, but when you have tens of British flags, then the police are bound to arrest some of those 'fascists' waving Union flags.
Not what I fucking asked you.
No-one was arrested for holding a British flag.
I asked you if any pro-palestine activists had smashed windows, looted stores and tried to attack the police. You haven't answered.
>I'm talking about patriotic rallies in general.
We have had many "patriotic rallies" in the past that had no arrests of note.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce4qd4e4e1vo
There was one literally in London before Tommy Robinson left.
>You are referring to the protests that occurred after the murder of three girls and are more or less justified.
No, I'm referring to RIOTS. And it's justified to smash up buildings, launch fireworks at police, throw bricks at police, and loot?
Is that what you're saying?
" No-one was arrested for holding a British flag."
https://youtu.be/Mz1fwd-lXn8
Palestinian flags are allowed, Union Flags not allowed.
"And it's justified to smash up buildings, launch fireworks at police, throw bricks at police, and loot?"
Yes, in this case I support the riots and wrath of British patriots who are fed up with their government's incapacity to contain immigration. They are 100% justified. Vox populi. I understand them in their desperate attempts to destroy a mosque, or when they storm into hotels accommodating migrants after three girls murdered by a migrant. Such riots are SADLY unavoidable when the State doesn’t take measures to safeguard the nation and allows millions of Africans and Asians to settle across the country.
If France was Muslim friendly, then their mosques wouldn't need gendarmes for protection.
shareWhat does France has to do to become friendly to Muslims? They have right to vote and be voted, right to practice all forms of their religion, create mosques and centers of Islamic studies, preach Islam and burn churches and kill Christians and still play the victim card.
shareWhat do you mean it "protects mosques"? How does it specifically protect mosques?
Looks like PSville is the latest knuckle dragging Neo Nazi to arrive at the site. I'm guessing by "protects" he means "Doesent persue me and my fellow racist's policy of persecution and violence"
Are you going to reply to my post here, or have you abandoned this thread like a bitch?
share"definitely an arson committed by the Religion of Peace."
How do you know when the French authorities don't?
The French authorities are ordered not to reveal the perpetrator(s) in this case. However, when a man dressed as a Palestinian patriot failed to burn a synagogue in broad daylight, then you know what happens. French media were obliged to cover the failed attack, show the wannabe attacker and decry once again anti-Semitism. Google Attaque de la synagogue de La Grande-Motte.
>The French authorities are ordered not to reveal the perpetrator(s) in this case.
Provide evidence for this claim.
>However, when a man dressed as a Palestinian patriot failed to burn a synagogue in broad daylight, then you know what happens.
That's a different incident.
"The French authorities are ordered not to reveal the perpetrator(s) in this case."
What delusional nonsense!
Google 40,000 dead Palestinians.
The French authorities did reveal the firebug. A white French guy with a history of setting fire to Catholic Churches because of pedophile priests.
Today you have egg on your face.
Yes, they revealed the perpetrator's ID because he's a WHITE man! If he were black, brown or Muslim, they wouldn't reveal his face or full name!
shareThen how come French news and authorities revealed the identities of previous perpetrators who weren't white?
shareWhen they can hide the perpetrators' IDs or race and religion, they’ll do so, unless the perpetrator(s) is/are white or Christian or when they attack Jewish targets. The IDs of those who burned Notre-Dame, the church in Paris' most central part, are still unknown 5 years after the fire. Isn't that suspicious?
shareI'll await evidence from you that this is an ordinary practice.
>The IDs of those who burned Notre-Dame, the church in Paris' most central part, are still unknown 5 years after the fire. Isn't that suspicious?
You are assuming that was arson. It's the conclusion that it was accidental. As usual, you assume your own conclusions.
" I'll await evidence from you that this is an ordinary practice."
When the perpetrator is white, authorities and mainstream media are VERY eager to show his face and id. When he's non-white, they’ll try hide it, when possible, to avoid stigmatizing minorities.
" It's the conclusion that it was accidental."
That’s your conclusion. As usual, you assume your own conclusions. There's no official conclusion. In my opinion, it was an arson. Architect Benjamin Mouton thinks it couldn’t have been the result of a short-circuit. Oak is a particularly resistant wood. A real starting heat load is needed to trigger such a disaster.
>When the perpetrator is white, authorities and mainstream media are VERY eager to show his face and id. When he's non-white, they’ll try hide it, when possible, to avoid stigmatizing minorities.
That's not evidence. You're just repeating your initial claim.
You assume they conceal the identity of non-white criminals, and base this on the Notre-dame cathedral, that you assume with no evidence was an act of arson. You have assumed your own conclusions.
>That’s your conclusion. As usual, you assume your own conclusions. There's no official conclusion.
https://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/where-paris-notre-dame-cathedral-stands-one-year-after-fire
"Investigators deemed the fire to have been started by either a cigarette or a short circuit in the electrical system."
> In my opinion, it was an arson. Architect Benjamin Mouton thinks it couldn’t have been the result of a short-circuit. Oak is a particularly resistant wood. A real starting heat load is needed to trigger such a disaster.
So you're suddenly an expert on the cause surrounding the Notre-dame fire, are you? I should believe you over all the actual investigators on-site.
" You assume they conceal the identity of non-white criminals"
When they can do so; they won't show the non-white perpetrator's face or publicize his whole name (I repeat unless the target was Jewish). they’ll report the half-truth about his ID or report vague information, like "man attacked" or "a person is suspected of".
"Investigators deemed the fire to have been started by either a cigarette or a short circuit in the electrical system."
Expert architect Benjamin Mouton and others exclude the short-circuit scenario.
" So you're suddenly an expert on the cause surrounding the Notre-dame fire, are you?"
I'm not architect Benjamin Mouton, you stupid civil servant.
>When they can do so; they won't show the non-white perpetrator's face or publicize his whole name (I repeat unless the target was Jewish). they’ll report the half-truth about his ID or report vague information, like "man attacked" or "a person is suspected of".
Again, you're just making more assumptions. No evidence whatsoever. No examples provides. Just baseless assertions.
>Expert architect Benjamin Mouton and others exclude the short-circuit scenario.
So Benjamin Mouton is right, and everyone else is wrong?
Lets assume it was arson. Have you considered that they just don't know who did it?
"No evidence whatsoever."
Mass media (such as BBC, CNN, Guardian) are called Fourth Estate for a good reason. They prioritize news to manipulate public opinion and exert their propaganda. They lie or conceal truths, report half-truths, avoid reporting, whenever possible, or post in small print events that rupture their globalist pro-NWO agenda. This is evidenced by browsing their home pages or watching their newscast. If perpetrator is white and the victim a member of a beloved minority, news in front page, if perpetrator is a member of a beloved minority and the victim white (male), news in the cellar's page.
"So Benjamin Mouton is right, and everyone else is wrong?"
Other experts who issue similar opinions are also right.
"Have you considered that they just don't know who did it?"
If it is an arson, then it must have been orchestrated by anti-Christians. Perhaps the foreign construction workers.
Mass media (such as BBC, CNN, Guardian) are called Fourth Estate for a good reason. They prioritize news to manipulate public opinion and exert their propaganda. They lie or conceal truths, report half-truths, avoid reporting, whenever possible, or post in small print events that rupture their globalist pro-NWO agenda.
I'm from Greece: there are some reliable Greek news site https://www.pronews.gr.
https://www.dimokratia.gr
Authoritative American sites:
https://www.unz.com
https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net
https://rumble.com
https://bigleaguepolitics.com
https://straightlinelogic.com
and others.
Those of the American sites I looked at are all right wing, some with a bent for conspiracy theory, others for misinformation. For instance straightlogic confidently tells us that
"The overclass has produced far less than it has taken and has destroyed far more than it has created. The overclass is the cohort in both government and ostensibly private enterprise who derive their sustenance directly or indirectly from government in exchange for goods or services. It consists of the relatively small group who rule" [the Jews, one wonders the tropes seem familiar?] as well as other things including peddling the widely discredited link between the Covid vaccine and autism, that did so much damage: "5 Scientific Findings Explain Link Between Vaccines and Autism "
Headlining at Rumble: 'Kamala Harris Becomes A Global Joke'
Occidental Observer is openly about 'white interests' etc Is that balanced?
None seem impartial, let alone authoritative. All of your objections against mainstream media can be levelled at them, with greater force.
>Mass media (such as BBC, CNN, Guardian) are called Fourth Estate for a good reason. They prioritize news to manipulate public opinion and exert their propaganda. They lie or conceal truths, report half-truths, avoid reporting, whenever possible, or post in small print events that rupture their globalist pro-NWO agenda. This is evidenced by browsing their home pages or watching their newscast. If perpetrator is white and the victim a member of a beloved minority, news in front page, if perpetrator is a member of a beloved minority and the victim white (male), news in the cellar's page.
Excuses, excuses, excuses. No actual evidence. You have provided no examples of them concealing the identity of a non-white killer, arsonist, or whoever.
>Other experts who issue similar opinions are also right.
And who are these?
>If it is an arson, then it must have been orchestrated by anti-Christians. Perhaps the foreign construction workers.
Are you of the opinion that only Islamists can be anti-christian?
"You have provided no examples of them concealing the identity of a non-white killer, arsonist, or whoever."
You ignore again what I wrote and repeat: that media and authorities will do their best to conceal the ID and race of a perpetrator when he/she is non-white. And when they must reveal their ID, they try not to show their face or full name (example, the recent murders in Germany and England, it was very difficult to find pictures of the killers), but do not apply the same strategy when a white person is the killer (example, the UNDERAGE shooter in Georgia a few days ago).
"And who are these?"
Too many to mention, among others Anthony and Didier Dupuy, who had worked in the burned cathedral.
"Are you of the opinion that only Islamists can be anti-christian?"
Are you of the opinion that Islamists in Christian European countries have good intentions? Do they come to you for your own good or to serve their interests?
>You ignore again what I wrote and repeat: that media and authorities will do their best to conceal the ID and race of a perpetrator when he/she is non-white.
You can repeat it all you like until the end of time, fuckface.
You have provided no evidence for it, and given that I consider you a lying piece of shit I accept nothing but citations.
> And when they must reveal their ID, they try not to show their face or full name (example, the recent murders in Germany and England, it was very difficult to find pictures of the killers)
You are a fucking moron. The killer in the UK was under-18. They can't release pictures by law. And we do not allow courtroom photography.
Secondly, both the German and British killers were caught and their identities released. What the fuck does a mugshot matter?
>but do not apply the same strategy when a white person is the killer (example, the UNDERAGE shooter in Georgia a few days ago).
USA laws are completely different to UK and Germany. And no, I'll await for evidence that the media in the USA withholds the identity of a killer as a rule purely because they're black.
>Too many to mention, among others Anthony and Didier Dupuy, who had worked in the burned cathedral.
I see nothing from those two about the cathedral.
>Are you of the opinion that Islamists in Christian European countries have good intentions? Do they come to you for your own good or to serve their interests?
Not answering my question, fuckwit. Are you of the opinion that only Islamists can be anti-christian?
"You are a fucking moron. The killer in the UK was under-18."
The shooter in the USA was underage, 14, many pictures of him circulate online. Double standards. Very few pictures of the Arab and black murderers.
" What the fuck does a mugshot matter?"
It matters to the media when the mugshots show white thugs. They take much delight in spreading such mugshots.
" USA laws are completely different to UK and Germany."
UK papers showing the white shooter's face: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/colt-gray-georgia-school-shooting-dad-gun-b2608193.html
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/30295320/colt-gray-apalachee-high-school-shooting-court/
" media in the USA withholds the identity of a killer as a rule purely because they're black."
Media in the USA will prioritize crimes or instances of violence committed by white. For example the recent Georgia shooting. They give much gravity to the incident to serve their purposes (help Democrats win), but they won't report or won’t give much importance to crimes committed by Negros against whites or East Asians.
https://www.unz.com/article/black-on-white-homicides-august-2024/
https://www.unz.com/article/june-2024-black-on-white-homicide-report/
" Are you of the opinion that only Islamists can be anti-christian?"
You are a non-Islamic antichristian.
>The shooter in the USA was underage, 14, many pictures of him circulate online. Double standards. Very few pictures of the Arab and black murderers.
UK Law is not USA law, you fucking imbecile. The UK media WAS NOT GIVEN THE SOUTHPORT STABBERS IDENTITY BY LAW because HE WAS A MINOR. Not until the judge lifted it, which they did.
The identity of criminals under 18 cannot be released and thus shared by the media until a judge announces it in the UK. Plenty of rioters under 18, who are white, are still having their identities withheld and there are no pictures of them.
>It matters to the media when the mugshots show white thugs. They take much delight in spreading such mugshots.
Not an answer. Why does it fucking matter? We know who the German and Southport stabbers are.
>UK papers showing the white shooter's face: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/colt-gray-georgia-school-shooting-dad-gun-b2608193.html
UK Papers are free to report on crimes FROM ABROAD. They are not free, and are not given information about the identity of minors who commit crimes WITHIN THE UK.
Just like Icelandic newspapers can report on the identity of celebrities who put out injunctions as they are not bound by UK law. You are genuinely a fucking moron who knows nothing about UK law.
>Media in the USA will prioritize crimes or instances of violence committed by white. for example the Floyd incident. They gave much gravity to the incident to serve their evil purposes, but they won't report or won’t give much importance to crimes committed by Negros against whites or East Asians.
The Floyd incident was because they died in police custody. Those are always big news.
>You are a non-Islamic antichristian.
Right then, so it's quite possible for anti-christians to be non-islamic and thus potentially commit arson on churches. Historically, many church burners have been SATANIC.
"Why does it fucking matter? We know who the German and Southport stabbers are."
It matters, because if perpetrators were white, more images of the killers would have been posted and more news time devoted to the killings.
"They are not free, and are not given information about the identity of minors who commit crimes WITHIN THE UK."
But when the foreign killer is an underage black, they won't show his face.
"The Floyd incident was because they died in police custody. Those are always big news."
Not big news when the person dying in police custody is a white man (unless he's gay and active lgbt member). I linked two UNZ pages of black-on-white crimes: don’t expect BBC to report them. Another page of black subhuman business: https://www.unz.com/article/about-38-black-on-white-homicides-including-a-white-man-trying-to-apologize-to-a-black-women-for-minor-fender-bender/
"it's quite possible for anti-christians to be non-islamic and thus potentially commit arson on churches. "
You see how anti-Christian migrants and invaders contribute to a country's cultural heritage? They destroy monuments and masterpieces of superior civilisation.
>It matters, because if perpetrators were white, more images of the killers would have been posted and more news time devoted to the killings.
No reason to believe this. The Southport killers picture wasn't everywhere because he was a minor. So are many of the under 18 rioters in the UK whose identities haven't been disclosed. Going to comment on that little factoid?
>But when the foreign killer is an underage black, they won't show his face.
You are genuinely a fucking moron. How many times do I have to spell this out to you?
UK media outlets are governed by UK LAW. If an under 18 commits a crime IN THE UK their identity cannot be revealed by the press. THAT IS LAW. If, however an under 18 in the USA commits a crime their identity can be shared by the UK press because that is USA law regarding the identity of minors.
How is it you are not getting this?
>Not big news when the person dying in police custody is a white man (unless he's gay and active lgbt member). I linked two UNZ pages of black-on-white crimes: don’t expect BBC to report them. Another page of black subhuman business: https://www.unz.com/article/about-38-black-on-white-homicides-including-a-white-man-trying-to-apologize-to-a-black-women-for-minor-fender-bender/
Are you of the opinion that UK media should put, as frontpage news, every single murder or violent crime by a black person in the USA?
>You see how anti-Christian migrants and invaders contribute to a country's cultural heritage? They destroy monuments and masterpieces of superior civilisation.
Who said anything about would-be church burners necessarily being migrants? They aren't in many cases at all.
You are a fucking idiot.
>They destroy monuments and masterpieces of superior civilisation.
Your social views make think you should admire Islam.
"Are you of the opinion that UK media should put, as frontpage news, every single murder or violent crime by a black person in the USA?"
That's not possible, because the murders are too many. I think they should dedicate more space of their front pages /home pages to murders committed by blacks in the USA or elsewhere.
" Who said anything about would-be church burners necessarily being migrants? "
There are exceptions to the norm, like the white who burned the church recently and whose face and ID are well-publicized for all to see.
" Your social views make think you should admire Islam."
Why? The only things I share with Islamists is that we both dislike lgbt, feminism, democracy and alcohol. I don't want implementation of Sharia law or Muslims to become majority in our lands.
>That's not possible, because the murders are too many. I think they should dedicate more space of their front pages /home pages to murders committed by blacks in the USA or elsewhere.
Why? Why would a UK website focus disproportionate reporting space on US murders?
>There are exceptions to the norm, like the white who burned the church recently and whose face and ID are well-publicized for all to see.
And historically church burnings in France, Uk, USA etc have been done by satanists.
Exceptions to the norm? It wasn't "well-publicised". That entire church burning wasn't big news anywhere full stop.
>Why? The only things I share with Islamists is that we both dislike lgbt, feminism, democracy and alcohol. I don't want implementation of Sharia law or Muslims to become majority in our lands.
What do you and Muslims disagree on exactly? You both hold traditionalist viewpoints about culture, women. From my perspective you are not different. You may have different theologies, but why should I view you as any different from a Saudi cleric, or an Iranian Mullah?
"Why? Why would a UK website focus disproportionate reporting space on US murders?"
To boost racism across Great Britain and other lands infested by negroes, as it has been low in recent years. To reveal the truth about Western blacks, and make them appear like beasts, monsters to the public. To increase distrust in them, urge Britons to avoid interactions with black individuals! This sounds more racist than it truly is; blacks outperform whites in some fields, white are better than blacks in other areas. It is wiser to live apart.
"why should I view you as any different from a Saudi cleric, or an Iranian Mullah?"
Firstly, I take back what I said about alcohol: I drink beer, wine and other low-alcohol drinks, but not often. Secondly, I respect the choice of others to follow the religion(s) they prefer. While the New Testament professes 'love each other', the Quran professes violent repression of nonbelievers:
Quran (8:12)"I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" (8:67) "It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land"
(9:14)"Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them." (9:73)"O Prophet! strive hard against unbelievers and hypocrites, be harsh against them, their abode is hell, and evil is the destination." Quran (9:123) "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness." (48:29) "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are severe against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves"
Thirdly, I disapprove of the mandatory use of headscarf or burkini by women, of the conservative rule to hide every inch of their bodies, and their exclusively homebound role (I may accept female politicians, always in moderation). Fourthly, to me, Jesus is the prophet, not the warlord Mohamed who owned slaves and killed innocents.
>To boost racism across Great Britain and other lands infested by negroes, as it has been low in recent years.
So you want the BBC to take an overtly racist slant by overreporting on specific non-UK news. Why the fuck would they do this?
> To reveal the truth about Western blacks, and make them appear like beasts, monsters to the public. To increase distrust in them, urge Britons to avoid interactions with black individuals! This sounds more racist than it truly is; blacks outperform whites in some fields, white are better than blacks in other areas. It is wiser to live apart.
And you continue to reveal how much of a hateful psychotic piece of shit you are. Some of our most revered and well-respected public figures are black. Many politicians in frontline roles are black. The next leader of the opposition may well be a black woman. You are true human scum and you do not dictate our culture. Is that clear, fuckface?
>Firstly, I take back what I said about alcohol: I drink beer, wine and other low-alcohol drinks, but not often. Secondly, I respect the choice of others to follow the religion(s) they prefer. While the New Testament professes 'love each other', the Quran professes violent repression of nonbelievers:
You do not respect the rights of LGBT people to be themselves. You have suggested I should be censored because of my liberal viewpoints. Should I be allowed to legally express anti-religious, pro-secular viewpoints in a public setting?
>Thirdly, I disapprove of the mandatory use of headscarf or burkini by women, of the conservative rule to hide every inch of their bodies, and their exclusively homebound role (I may accept female politicians, always in moderation). Fourthly, to me, Jesus is the prophet, not the warlord Mohamed who owned slaves and killed innocents.
What do you mean "always in moderation" here? What restrictions are you implying?
And I don't give a fuck about your theological differences. Completely irrelevant to me.
"I'll await evidence from you that this is an ordinary practice."
I dont have any peer reviewed studies but i've noticed this most of my life and I've been watching headlines from the news since i can remember. I was born watching the news. Right out of my Mamas vag.
This shit does happen like this. Are you suggesting it doesnt happen or you havent noticed yet? Im Not saying is 100% all the time (thats silly), but it happens enough to notice. No conspiracy, just good'ol boring observation.
I regard it as right-wing mythos. It's that simple. Suspects identities are withheld due to legal reasons in most cases.
share>https://youtu.be/Mz1fwd-lXn8
Palestinian flags are allowed, Union Flags not allowed.
I do not trust this commentator at all. Provide me an actual news article.
And if British flags are banned, why didn't all the people at the Tommy Robinson rally get arrested? Don't bitch out and hide from the question. Answer it.
>Yes, in this case I support the riots and wrath of British patriots who are fed up with their government's incapacity to contain immigration
So you are a violent hateful fascist thug who endorses the murder of non-white people and the attack of police and other members of the public.
You truly are an evil piece of shit.
https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/50257-the-public-reaction-to-the-2024-riots
The rioters in the UK were heavily despised. You are an anti-British, anti-western fascist piece of shit who justifies political violence. Words fail me as to how low I view you.
> They are 100% justified. Vox populi. I understand them in their desperate attempts to destroy a mosque
They were not murdered by a migrant, you lying piece of shit. They were murdered by the child of immigrants. The kid was born here. They were almost certainly a British citizen.
>or when they storm into hotels accommodating migrants after three girls murdered by a migrant.
What should they have done if they encountered a migrant in the hotel?
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>He's British of foreign origin, but a patriot. Other very good channels related to UK matters https://www.youtube.com/@HistoryDebunkedsimonwebb
https://www.youtube.com/@JeffTaylor
Not what I asked for. Provide me for actual news articles of that man SUPPOSEDLY being arrested for holding a British flag.
And you continue to be a cowardly piece of shit and run away from answering this: If British flags are banned, why didn't all the people at the Tommy Robinson rally get arrested? Don't bitch out and hide from the question. Answer it.
>You are a violent hateful liberal thug who endorses the murder of white people and the attack of police and other members of the public.
When have I endorsed the murder of white people, and attacks on police?
>A anti-west liberal who wants deaths of nations and diversity.
When have I called for the death of nations and diversity? What makes me anti-west?
> It's unbelievable how much you advocate for the African who murdered girls, for the blacks and browns who murdered whites.
And when did I advocate for the Southport murderer?
>The killer is AFRICAN genetically, of black skin and the fact that he is registered in British records doesn’t make him lose his connection with Africa. He's the dark product of black migrants.
And he was BORN IN THE UK. He is NOT a fucking migrant.
>They could cause property damage. Destroy rooms with migrants, steal or break items, etc. But even if they have killed a migrant (of dark skin by preference), I wouldn't condemn it, and rightfully so!
So are outright openly in favour of murdering immigrants. Can you put that down in writing?
You think the rioters should have been allowed to kill non-white people. Can you put that down in writing?
You are a nazi piece of shit.
> Israeli genociders have the right to SLAY THOUSANDS of kids, women, men. Why don't British, Greeks, Europeans and Americans have the right to kill migrants-invaders?? We must have it: eye for eye, tooth for tooth. An African killed three girls, then killing him and his parents shouldn't be condemnable. Since Israel can kill thousands (99% civilians, 30% kids) and lead to starvation 2 million
No, they don't. I mean they can due to the power difference - but that is not considered a valid response. Would it have been acceptable in WW2 for American or Russian troops to start murdering random German kids as they broke into Germany? The comparison with Hamas here is also utterly absurd. Hamas is a terrorist organisation that controls the strip that engaged in a hostile co-ordinated invasion of Israel. The southport killer is some random dude who acted on behalf of no-one to stab 3 kids.
>we must have the right to kill invaders (mostly adults) who refuse to return where they came from.
Who is "we"? Apparently not the UK state but a small percentage of UK white adults who do not represent the majority of the UK issuing out mob justice. How can they force these people to return from where they came from in the halls of a hotel in the UK?
"Provide me for actual news articles of that man SUPPOSEDLY being arrested for holding a British flag."
You can see his Union Flag on a chair. I guess the police arrested him, the white Briton, to prevent a clash between him and the Arab protesters.
"If British flags are banned, why didn't all the people at the Tommy Robinson rally get arrested?"
In the linked video's pro-Palestine rally, UK flags were not allowed. In the Tommy Robinson rally they were allowed by the authorities in order to keep up appearances.
"When have I endorsed the murder of white people, and attacks on police?"
Do you want the State to deport many thousands of migrants, contain Muslim /Asian population and stop ALL boats by force or through threatening warnings? If you say no, then you endorse murder of white people and attacks on police.
"When have I called for the death of nations and diversity? What makes me anti-west?"
You want West to be filled with migrants from Asia, Africa, non-whites or non-Christians. France, USA, Canada, Belgium etc. have been melting pots for years. However, in a few decades whites will be a minority, and by the end of the century, a small minority. Where's diversity? Blondes and gingers, already a tiny minority, will become a microscopic minority group.
"And when did I advocate for the Southport murderer?"
Today, yesterday, and in our previous debate.
"He is NOT a fucking migrant."
You defend him. The fact that he has British passport or certificates doesn’t make him British in society. He may be British before the State, but not a Briton before fellow citizens. He's African genetically, physically and mentally.
>You can see his Union Flag on a chair. I guess the police arrested him, the white Briton, to prevent a clash between him and the Arab protesters.
No, that he's being arrested doesn't mean he was arrested because he was holding a British flag. You have not provided any evidence for him being arrested for that reason. You're just assuming he was because you saw the British flag.
You constantly fall for fake news, so I instinctively think you're a dumbass or a lying piece of shit. Pick one.
>In the linked video's pro-Palestine rally, UK flags were not allowed. In the Tommy Robinson rally they were allowed by the authorities in order to keep up appearances.
So they'll arrest individuals, apparently, for holding a British flag but then allowa rally in London with thousands of people, and thus thousands of flags?
https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2024/07/AP24187452469276.jpg
You can literally see union jacks here. Why is this?
>Do you want the State to deport many thousands of migrants, and stop ALL boats by force or through threatening warnings? If you say no, then you endorse murder of white people and attacks on police.
Yes, I do. I've been on record for wanting immigration reduced and stopping the boats. So has Labour.
>contain Muslim /Asian population
What are you meaning here? What does this mean?
>You want West to be filled with migrants from Asia, Africa, non-whites or non-Christians.
I AM A FUCKING NON-CHRISTIAN. Most people in the UK aren't Christian. Shove your religious orthodoxy up your ass. We are a post-christian nation. We aren't religious.
As for your other point, no, I don't want the west to be "filled with migrants from Asia, Africa"
>Today, yesterday, and in our previous debate.
Quote me, fuckface. Provide evidence for this claim.
Murderous fascist.
>You defend him. The fact that he has British passport or certificates doesn’t make him British in society. He may be British before the State, but not a Briton before fellow citizens. He's African genetically, physically and mentally.
I have no idea about his political or social beliefs. And no, I don't defend him. He should rot in jail for the rest of his life.
Going to stop being a lying scumbag? Ever?
"You have not provided any evidence for him being arrested for that reason."
Then tell me why he was arrested. Why was he so dangerous that he required handcuffs? He was only carrying a flag.
"You can literally see union jacks here. Why is this?"
They can't arrest hundreds of people waving UK flags, and besides simultaneously to that rally were held two liberal rallies. It would be very provocative to stop the patriotic and allow the two liberal rallies.
"Yes, I do. I've been on record for wanting immigration reduced and stopping the boats. So has Labour."
Provide evidence that you and Labour truly want to reduce immigration. Why do boats keep coming? It shows the government is weak and unwilling to bring a solution to the issue.
"We aren't religious."
Speak for yourself. There are Millions of Christians and Muslims in the UK. Plus, Hinduists and other religious groups.
"Quote me, fuckface. Provide evidence for this claim."
You support the African killer again and again.
"Murderous fascist."
I'm MUCH LESS murderous than your Israeli masters.
"He should rot in jail for the rest of his life."
If you truly believe that then stop claiming he's British. He does not fit in British society, he's dangerous, a threat to English communities. The UK State gave him citizenship, and the ingrate African returned the favor by killing girls.
>Then tell me why he was arrested. Why was he so dangerous that he required handcuffs? He was only carrying a flag.
I don't know. That's why I asked you for a news article regarding the arrest. He could've just got into a violent spat with someone in the crowd. You have no idea. What we do know is that there are many protests where the British flags are viewable and publicly so. And nothing happens.
>They can't arrest hundreds of people waving UK flags, and besides simultaneously to that rally were held two liberal rallies. It would be very provocative to stop the patriotic and allow the two liberal rallies.
So all you've got is a single incident where a British person was being arrested, you see a British flag, and you just assume that they were arrested for that reason?
And all I have is the THOUSANDS OF EXAMPLES where people are holding British flags and they are not arrested?
>Provide evidence that you and Labour truly want to reduce immigration. Why do boats keep coming? It shows the government is weak and unwilling to bring a solution to the issue.
How is it Labour are supposed to stop boats when they don't happen in our borders? Do you think Keir Starmer has some magic wand?
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/home-secretary-announces-new-measures-to-boost-britains-border-security
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/hundreds-of-rogue-employers-targeted-in-illegal-working-crackdown
https://www.gbnews.com/politics/migrant-crisis-yvette-cooper-immigration-blitz-raids-car-washes-nail-bars
https://www.thenational.scot/news/24515178.keir-starmer-italian-pm-discussed-europol-illegal-migration-plan/
>Speak for yourself. There are Millions of Christians and Muslims in the UK. Plus, Hinduists and other religious groups.
As a whole, we're simply not that religious. Most Christians here just flat out aren't Christian. They just tick it on the census box.
>You support the African killer again and again.
Quote me where I've done that, fuckface.
>I'm MUCH LESS murderous than your Israeli masters.
How are Israel my masters?
And no, you are a would-be terrorist. You openly justify the random murder of non-white people.
>If you truly believe that then stop claiming he's British. He does not fit in British society, he's dangerous, a threat to English communities. The UK State gave him citizenship, and the ingrate African returned the favor by killing girls.
Whether or not he's British doesn't change anything to whether or not he should or should not rot in jail. It's based on what he did.
"So are outright openly in favour of murdering immigrants. Can you put that down in writing?"
I'm openly in favour of killing invaders. If Israel has the right to KILL THOUSANDS OF CIVILIANS, then my country's authorities should have the human right to protect its indigenous people. But if they do so, then suddenly human rights NGOs will condemn the slaughter of "refugees" and NWO will do its best to topple the prime minister. Israel is the only State with the right to commit massacres. No sanctions or bans on Israel, no embargoes or expulsions from organisations.
"Hamas is a terrorist organisation that controls the strip that engaged in a hostile co-ordinated invasion of Israel."
Nothing justifies the killing of 60,000 civilians and bombing of cities, hospitals, schools, and churches by Israeli forces, even if Hamas killed 1300 on October 7, a questionable number in my opinion. In fact, it is likely that IDF orchestrated the October 7 attacks (false flags) to justify the ongoing slaughter and complete occupation of Gaza and West Bank.
"Who is "we"?"
By "we" I'm referring to South Europeans, Britons, Americans, Germans, Scandinavians, etc., namely, people living in Western lands invaded by waves of foreigners.
"How can they force these people to return from where they came from in the halls of a hotel in the UK?"
Ask Israeli authorities, they’ll propose one or more ways. But don’t say you're British.
>I'm openly in favour of killing invaders. If Israel has the right to KILL THOUSANDS OF CIVILIANS, then my country's authorities should have the human right to protect its indigenous people.
They aren't "invaders". They weren't replled at the borders by the military. They were put into process and put into hotels. What happens to them, and future people coming in depends on government policy. It is not down to mobs who do not represent the country.
>But if they do so, then suddenly human rights NGOs will condemn the slaughter of "refugees" and NWO will do its best to topple the prime minister. Only Israel has the right to commit massacres.
Murdering people who haven't actually done anything is what it is, scumbag.
You continue to be a fascist piece of shit.
>By "we" I'm referring to South Europeans, Britons, Americans, Germans, Scandinavians, etc., namely, people living in Western lands invaded by waves of foreigners.
Most people in the UK condemned the riots. A minority of murderous scumbags don't get to dictate government policy.
>Ask Israeli authorities, they’ll propose one or more ways. But don’t say you're British.
Israel isn't doing that. Israel is going into Gaza and slaughtering people not officially on territory they govern.
Again, you claimed that the rioters should have burst into the hotels and forced an ultimatum on the people in the hotel: leave or die. Given that most of the rioters were unemployed, career criminals and all had zero local or government or civil service positions - what power did they have to actually enforce such a demand?
"They aren't "invaders".
Provide evidence that they aren't invaders. Provide evidence that they came to the UK legally. And even if they came legally, did the State ask the UK people's permission to install so many foreigners? A BIG NO.
"Murdering people who haven't actually done anything is what it is, scumbag."
Israel is the State murdering people who haven't actually done anything.
"You continue to be a fascist piece of shit."
Good. Not being fascist today is a sign of weakness.
"Most people in the UK condemned the riots."
Provide evidence that most people in the UK condemned the riots.
"Israel isn't doing that."
Go defend your Israeli masters. You like them so much.
"Again, you claimed that the rioters should have burst into the hotels and forced an ultimatum on the people in the hotel: leave or die."
Since the UK State (and other States) are ruled by useless spineless politicians, it is up to the people to try to take control of the situation and bring a change. Bringing changes will require sacrifices, some will die or be injured. Revolution, rebellion, this is what happens when you are ruled for years or decades by traitors.
>Provide evidence that they aren't invaders. Provide evidence that they came to the UK legally. And even if they came legally, did the State ask the UK people's permission to install so many foreigners? A BIG NO.
That's not the definition of invasion here. Individuals trying to run to a country for economic reasons (or in some cases, as actual refugees) is not the definition of invasion.
>Israel is the State murdering people who haven't actually done anything.
And when Israeli soldiers shoot random Palestinians dead, that's murder.
>Good. Not being fascist today is a sign of weakness.
Why should I not view as any less evil than Adolf Hitler? You do realise that you would not be allowed to enter the UK if you were more well known, right?
>Provide evidence that most people in the UK condemned the riots.
I know you're an idiot and a moron, but I've actually provided evidence for this multiple times. Since you're too thick to notice the links I've provided, I'll post it AGAIN:
https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/50257-the-public-reaction-to-the-2024-riots
>Go defend your Israeli masters. You like them so much.
That wasn't a defence of Israel. I pointed out that the situation is fundamentally different. Israel isn't slaughtering Arabs already living on Israel (about 20% of their population), but invading the strip.
>Since the UK State (and other States) are ruled by useless spineless politicians, it is up to the people to try to take control of the situation and bring a change. Bringing changes will require sacrifices, some will die or be injured. Revolution, rebellion, this is what happens when you are ruled for years or decades by traitors.
Not what I asked you. How could they make them leave? The rioters that broke into the hotels (or tried) have no power. They aren't part of the government, and hold no office of relevance. How is it do you imagine that they should force them to leave the country?
So you are openly in favour of a minority of people enforcing and imposing a totalitarian state on the rest of us. You really are an evil nazi piece of shit.
"He could've just got into a violent spat with someone in the crowd."
The video shows officers holding a handcuffed man, with a flag beside him. If there was a violent spat with someone in the crowd, why arrest only the patriot?
"Do you think Keir Starmer has some magic wand?"
No need for magic wands. If we don't use force, like most nations in the world do, then we can't expect the boats and hordes of invaders to end.
"Quote me where I've done that, fuckface."
If you were a reporter, I'm sure you'd say "girls killed by a British teenager" in order to prevent stigmatizing black community and to give Britons a bad name.
"How are Israel my masters?"
They have killed thousands, I call for killing some invaders and it is me whom you insult and call a murderous piece of shit again and again. Are Algerians fascists when they KILL UNarmed persons illegally entering their territory??
"Individuals trying to run to a country for economic reasons (or in some cases, as actual refugees) is not the definition of invasion."
It is an invasion when they come illegally or there are many thousands of them or when they aren't filtered. Why should the UK or other countries accept them? Why don't they go to rich Arab lands? Will they be of benefit to society or act like parasites at the expense of majority? Most of the African /Asian migrants coming to Europe have no diplomas, aren't educated. Some come here and are exploited by capitalists for cheap manual labor. We should help rebuild their countries and only admit a few migrants after strict filtering.
>The video shows officers holding a handcuffed man, with a flag beside him. If there was a violent spat with someone in the crowd, why arrest only the patriot?
How the fuck do you know that there isn't an arrest off-camera?
>No need for magic wands. If we don't use force, like most nations in the world do, then we can't expect the boats and hordes of invaders to end.
What "force" are you proposing?
And are you going to comment on the links I gave you about what the Labour administration has been planning to do?
>If you were a reporter, I'm sure you'd say "girls killed by a British teenager" in order to prevent stigmatizing black community and to give Britons a bad name.
No, I'd say "British teenager" because that is accurate to the assailant. That's what they are legally.
>They have killed thousands, I call for killing some invaders and it is me whom you insult and call a murderous piece of shit again and again. Are Algerians fascists when they KILL UNarmed persons illegally entering their territory??
I'll try again: How are Israel my masters?
And show me a specific situation you're referring to regarding Algeria.
>It is an invasion when they come illegally or there are many thousands of them or when they aren't filtered. Why should the UK or other countries accept them?
They shouldn't necessarily. But this is a matter of legislation.
I actually regard you now as the most evil piece of shit on this forum. You are a bloodthirsty, murderous fascist who wants to dictate to British people how we may govern ourselves. You think you should have more say over how we conduct our affairs than British people do.
share"And when Israeli soldiers shoot random Palestinians dead, that's murder."
Israeli authorities kill innocent Palestinians, no sanctions on Israel. When western authorities kill ONE thug of foreign origin, then bedlam ensues. When French police killed ONE Algerian outlaw who drove without driver's license, this was met with riots from parasitic minorities, Muslims accusing France of racism. We have LOST the BASIC HUMAN RIGHT to protect our nations.
"Why should I not view as any less evil than Adolf Hitler?"
If Hitler had won the war, Europe would have been whiter now and more prosperous. Unfortunately, Hitler and his men made several critical mistakes, overestimated their power and lost.
"https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/50257-the-public-reaction-to-the-2024-riots"
I repeat, don’t trust the results of polls and surveys, especially when they come from NGOs, liberal media and the government.
"That wasn't a defence of Israel."
Yes, it is. A killing of 60,000 civilians is a SLAUGHTER wherever it takes place, in or outside Israeli territory.
"How could they make them leave?"
If the State doesn’t help, then the people can reverse the situation through terrorism, looting, by making the life of migrants a hell on Earth. Sadly, as I said before this would require sacrifices and result in deaths. Pogroms, and lynching are common words met in pages of history.
"You really are an evil nazi piece of shit."
My right to choose and prefer something over something else doesn’t make me evil. I don't want big numbers of blacks or browns in Europe or America. I'm not being evil or too demanding.
>Israeli authorities kill innocent Palestinians, no sanctions on Israel. When western authorities kill ONE thug of foreign origin, then bedlam ensues.
What western authorities are you referring to here who have done this? Give some examples please.
And are you implying Israel has had no international blowback whatsoever for their actions in Palestine? Even if we exclude it solely to protests and boycotts abroad?
>When French police killed ONE Algerian outlaw who drove without driver's license, this was met with riots from parasitic minorities, Muslims accusing France of racism. We have LOST the BASIC HUMAN RIGHT to protect our nations.
When did they do this? Source please.
>If Hitler had won the war, Europe would have been whiter now and more prosperous. Unfortunately, Hitler and his men made several critical mistakes, overestimated their power and lost.
And Slavics wouldn't exist. Fucking hell, Greeks might not even exist.
Was Hitler right to attempt to genocide all Jews, Slavs and other undesirables? Is that where you're getting to now?
>I repeat, don’t trust the results of polls and surveys, especially when they come from NGOs, liberal media and the government.
Go fuck yourself. Provide evidence that Yougov are lying with their polling here. I trust them 1000 times more than I trust Nazi scumbags such as yourself. You want me jailed. Why the fuck would I trust you on anything?
>Yes, it is. A killing of 60,000 civilians is a SLAUGHTER wherever it takes place, in or outside Israeli territory.
No. You're just too much of a moron to understand the point I was making. The dynamics of Israel-Gaza have nothing in common with the issue of immigration into European countries.
>If the State doesn’t help, then the people can reverse the situation through terrorism, looting, by making the life of migrants a hell on Earth. Sadly, as I said before this would require sacrifices and result in deaths. Pogroms, and lynching are common words met in pages of history.
Why should a minority of people get to dictate state policy?
So are you openly justifying and calling for the mass murder of non-white people in the UK?
>My right to choose and prefer something over something else doesn’t make me evil. I don't want big numbers of blacks or browns in Europe or America. I'm not being evil or too demanding.
You are calling for the mass murder of all non-white because your desired state doesn't exist. You are true scum. An evil hateful murderous would-be terrorist.
"What western authorities are you referring to here who have done this? Give some examples please."
I mentioned the French incident as an example (see link below). Other examples include arrests of individuals of color. Israel has been murdering again and again now and before October 7 and yet mass media will paint bad pictures of western police killing or arresting POC. I've seen on Greek TV many videos of US police shooting blacks, but very few videos of Israelis shooting or bombing Palestinians. Why? Because most TV networks are controlled by Jews!
"And are you implying Israel has had no international blowback whatsoever for their actions in Palestine?"
Millions protested but the governments don’t sanction or expulse Israel. If France kills hundreds of migrants in a migrant camp, then the head of state wouldn't last for long. Western countries have lost the right to defend themselves.
"When did they do this? Source please."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Nahel_Merzouk
The pathetic MPs respected a minute of silence in his memory.
"And Slavics wouldn't exist. Fucking hell, Greeks might not even exist."
No, they would still exist and be fine.
"Was Hitler right to attempt to genocide all Jews, Slavs and other undesirables?"
There was no plan to genocide Jews or Slavs. That's a myth. Nazis' plan for Jews was the Madagascar Plan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madagascar_Plan.
"Go fuck yourself. Provide evidence that Yougov are lying with their polling here."
Go lick your traitorous government's boots and ass.
"No. You're just too much of a moron to understand the point I was making."
What dynamics? Israel kills, burns thousands, destroys houses and buildings and we are labelled as killers and fascists etc. when we want to kill the invaders coming to our lands?
>I mentioned the French incident as an example (see link below). Other examples include arrests of individuals of color. Israel has been murdering again and again now and before October 7 and yet mass media will paint bad pictures of western police killing or arresting POC. I've seen on Greek TV many videos of US police shooting blacks, but very few videos of Israelis shooting or bombing Palestinians. Why? Because most TV networks are controlled by Jews!
Are you genuinely of the impression that there has been no pushback to the actions of Israel since October 7th? Didn't you specifically highlight pro-palestine protests in the UK to me?
>Millions protested but the governments don’t sanction or expulse Israel.
And what governments sanction the USA or France or wherever over arrests and police killings of black people?
>If France kills hundreds of migrants in a migrant camp, then the head of state wouldn't last for long. Western countries have lost the right to defend themselves.
That would be down to the French people if so.
And again, your comparison here makes no sense.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Nahel_Merzouk
The pathetic MPs respected a minute of silence in his memory.
Okay, and was France sanctioned by the international community for this?
And a police officer killed him unjustifiably. The French state didn't order him dead. This comparison makes NO SENSE.
>No, they would still exist and be fine.
Based on fucking what? The Germans had a plan to mass slaughter as many Slavic people as possible, or use them for slave labour.
>There was no plan to genocide Jews or Slavs. That's a myth. Nazis' plan for Jews was the Madagascar Plan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madagascar_Plan.
https://www.ushmm.org/antisemitism/holocaust-denial-and-distortion/evidence-documentation-holocaust
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/documenting-numbers-of-victims-of-the-holocaust-and-nazi-persecution
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/combating-holocaust-denial-evidence-of-the-holocaust-presented-at-nuremberg
https://www.hdot.org/debunking-denial/ezg6-mass-graves/
As I expected, you're a piece of shit holocaust denier.
>Go lick your traitorous government's boots and ass.
So as usual you have no fucking evidence. You continue to be a compulsive liar.
What you insist without evidence, I can dismiss without evidence. I like in the UK. I know my country much better than you. Is that understood, fuckface?
>What dynamics? Israel kills, burns thousands, destroys houses and buildings and we are labelled as killers and fascists etc. when we want to kill the invaders coming to our lands?
Israel was directly attacked by the governing authority of Gaza. If the IRA was the government of Ireland, and the smashed through the Northern Ireland border and slaughtered up to 1,000 protestants and took hundreds of hostages - you bet the UK military would be bombing Ireland. That is a better analogy to your Israel point.
"Why should a minority of people get to dictate state policy?"
Why should the lgbt minority get to dictate state policy? Patriots or anti-immigration citizens in the UK and other lands are waking up and becoming more and more numerous. They are no longer a minority and fight for the benefit of their nation, unlike lgbt who dictate state policy only to satisfy their sexual fantasies and bigheaded Ego.
"So are you openly justifying and calling for the mass murder of non-white people in the UK?"
No, stop distorting what I write. I don't call for mass murder, I call for deportation and killing those who try to get in illegally and ignore warnings. In Asia and Africa, border guards don’t laugh and you can't play with them. Invaders dare to trespass in the West's banana republics, because they know they get protection from so-called "human rights".
"You are calling for the mass murder of all non-white because your desired state doesn't exist. "
No, I'm calling for the right to choose with whom I want to live, a human right not respected by you, UN, EU, and many other liberal anti-white entities.
>Why should the lgbt minority get to dictate state policy?
They don't "dictate" state policy. We hold elections. Dude, if LGBT people dictated UK state policy then Wes Streeting wouldn't be the Minister of Health. Tell me you know NOTHING about UK policy here without telling me. Wanker.
> Patriots or anti-immigration citizens in the UK and other lands are waking up and becoming more and more numerous.
I'll await evidence for this claim in the context of the UK.
> They are no longer a minority and fight for the benefit of their nation, unlike lgbt who dictate state policy only to satisfy their sexual fantasies and bigheaded Ego.
I'll await evidence for this claim that "patriots" in the UK are no longer a minority.
We just had an election, and the combined results of Labour, Lib Dems, and the Greens was over 50%. Not to mention regional parties like Plaid Cymru, SNP and many different types of independent candidates. How do you explain that?
>No, stop distorting what I write. I don't call for mass murder, I call for deportation and killing those who try to get in illegally and ignore warnings.
It is not state policy to allow the mass slaughter of people who enter the country.
There is no support for this being state policy.
>In Asia and Africa, border guards don’t laugh and you can't play with them. Invaders dare to trespass in the West's banana republics, because they know they get protection from so-called "human rights".
I'd like to think we have better standards than developing nations with comedy levels of institutional corruption.
>No, I'm calling for the right to choose with whom I want to live, a human right not respected by you, UN, EU, and many other liberal anti-white entities.
You don't get the right to just "choose" to live in an ethnostate. Other people around you disagree. Most people in the UK disagree. There are millions of mixed-raced people in the UK. Non-white actors, comedians, celebrities, musicians comprise much of our contemporary entertainment landscape. There is no support for an ethnostate and you do NOT dictate our policy here.
Is that understood, shithead?
"Didn't you specifically highlight pro-palestine protests in the UK to me?"
Although people protested and demanded ceasefire, the reaction of governments and multinational companies has been weak. The demoNcrats don’t give half a penny about popular demands. The USA in particular announced more billions of aid to Israel and huge warships stand by Israel. Jewish (Zionist) lobbies govern the US's foreign policy, while European governments are cowardly towards Israel.
"And what governments sanction the USA or France or wherever over arrests and police killings of black people?"
None, but if France, USA, western powers start killing a few invaders, the mass media that have condoned Israel's crimes would immediately decry the killings of invaders. WAKE UP, rich Jews control mainstream media.
"And a police officer killed him unjustifiably."
The Algerian brat drove without license once again and had a history of offences. He could have killed people. He paid his life with disobedience. Good riddance!
"As I expected, you're a piece of shit holocaust denier."
Yes, I am. The 6 million number figure is the biggest historical LIE. The number of Jews that died in camps is much lower and most of them died of typhus. No gas chambers, that's a myth. Watch Europa Last Battle. https://rumble.com/search/all?q=europa%20last%20battle
" I know my country much better than you."
I think it is silly to swallow the results of a government's survey. A liberal government may publicize a survey according to which 40% of Americans are non-binaries. Would you believe them??
>Although people protested and demanded ceasefire, the reaction of governments and multinational companies has been weak.
And what are the reactions of these same governments and multinational companies to US police shootings, or French shooting - for comparisons sake?
>The demoNcrats don’t give half a penny about popular demands.
"Popular demands"? What popular demands are these?
>The USA in particular announced more billions of aid to Israel and huge warships stand by Israel. Jewish (Zionist) lobbies govern the US's foreign policy, while European governments are cowardly towards Israel.
Both parties in the USA are prominently pro-Israel. This has been the case for decades.
>None, but if France, USA, western powers start killing a few invaders, the mass media that have condoned Israel's crimes would immediately decry the killings of invaders. WAKE UP, rich Jews control mainstream media.
Oh wow. People would "decry" them. And nothing would happen. Just like with Israel. What is your fucking point? It would be no different.
>The Algerian brat drove without license once again and had a history of offences. He could have killed people. He paid his life with disobedience. Good riddance!
So driving without licence means that the police should have the right to shoot you without a trial?
>Yes, I am. The 6 million number figure is the biggest historical LIE. The number of Jews that died in camps is much lower and most of them died of typhus. No gas chambers, that's a myth. Watch Europa Last Battle. https://rumble.com/search/all?q=europa%20last%20battle
https://www.ushmm.org/antisemitism/holocaust-denial-and-distortion/evidence-documentation-holocaust
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/documenting-numbers-of-victims-of-the-holocaust-and-nazi-persecution
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/combating-holocaust-denial-evidence-of-the-holocaust-presented-at-nuremberg
https://www.hdot.org/debunking-denial/ezg6-mass-graves/
No. Shove it up your ass. Go read actual historical data about it.
Tosser.
>I think it is silly to swallow the results of a government's survey. A liberal government may publicize a survey according to which 40% of Americans are non-binaries. Would you believe them??
It's not a "government's survey". Provide evidence that it is supposedly so.
And show me a survey that claims that 40% of Americans are non-binary
"Israel was directly attacked by the governing authority of Gaza."
Don't exclude the scenario of Israel attacking itself to justify the ongoing slaughter. I repeat don’t trust them, they are untrustworthy! Don't you remember the mediatized lies / front pages of papers about the 40 babies killed by Hamas in October 2023?? LIARS! Where are videos and pictures of 1300 massacred in Israel, why so much focus on the concert? Where are videos of Israelis killing 1000 Hamas fighters? WAKE UP! Didn't you see the Israeli Defense Minister ordering "no food, no water, no electricity"? Isn't that pure evil? You describe me as evil fascist for not wanting hordes of Asians/Africans in my land, but in reality my wish isn't evil at all.
"They don't "dictate" state policy."
Yes, they do, by demanding acceptance, pro-lgbt bills and policies from the State. Gays and trans have their lobbies too.
"I'll await evidence for this claim that "patriots" in the UK are no longer a minority."
I'll await evidence that most British tolerate lgbt madness.
"It is not state policy to allow the mass slaughter of people who enter the country."
The armed forces, coast guard are responsible for protecting a country from attacks; invasion by illegals has been a form of attack for millennia. If they refrain from protecting their country, then they should be defunded, hand their weapons and let people take control.
"I'd like to think we have better standards than developing nations "
Trust me, today we are the JOKE. The West is the dying comedy. Mark my words!
"You don't get the right to just "choose" to live in an ethnostate."
So you claim we, the indigenous people, don't have the right to choose who to live with, but invaders have the right to choose where to live? That they have right to occupy our territories and resources without our consent? No, we had, have and will always have the right and will keep fighting for it! You are too coward to join the fight, go suck gay and black penises.
>Although people protested and demanded ceasefire, the reaction of governments and multinational companies has been weak.
And what are the reactions of these same governments and multinational companies to US police shootings, or French shooting - for comparisons sake?
>The demoNcrats don’t give half a penny about popular demands.
"Popular demands"? What popular demands are these?
>The USA in particular announced more billions of aid to Israel and huge warships stand by Israel. Jewish (Zionist) lobbies govern the US's foreign policy, while European governments are cowardly towards Israel.
Both parties in the USA are prominently pro-Israel. This has been the case for decades.
>None, but if France, USA, western powers start killing a few invaders, the mass media that have condoned Israel's crimes would immediately decry the killings of invaders. WAKE UP, rich Jews control mainstream media.
Oh wow. People would "decry" them. And nothing would happen. Just like with Israel. What is your fucking point? It would be no different.
>The Algerian brat drove without license once again and had a history of offences. He could have killed people. He paid his life with disobedience. Good riddance!
>Don't exclude the scenario of Israel attacking itself to justify the ongoing slaughter. I repeat don’t trust them, they are untrustworthy!
Provide evidence for this claim. For starters, EVERY SINGLE PUBLIC FIGURE OF NOTE IN HAMAS HAS OPENLY SAID THAT THEY DID IT. If Israel attacked themselves, why in the fuck would Hamas play along?
>Don't you remember the mediatized lies / front pages of papers about the 40 babies killed by Hamas in October 2023?? LIARS! Where are videos and pictures of 1300 massacred in Israel, why so much focus on the concert?
Sorry, are you claiming that 1000+ Israelis didn't die in the attack? There were videos at the time all over google of Hamas attacking Israel.
>Where are videos of Israelis killing 1000 Hamas fighters? WAKE UP! Didn't you see the Israeli Defense Minister ordering "no food, no water, no electricity"? Isn't that pure evil?
Have you actually bothered to look for any of this data oyurself?
> You describe me as evil fascist for not wanting hordes of Asians/Africans in my land, but in reality my wish isn't evil at all.
No, you're an evil fascist because you want to overthrow the democratically elected UK government by force, persecute LGBT people and liberals and mass deport all non-white people. You are a vile bloodthirsty scumbag.
>Yes, they do, by demanding acceptance, pro-lgbt bills and policies from the State. Gays and trans have their lobbies too.
Then explain why this is happening:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/15/wes-streeting-defends-puberty-blocker-ban-decision-after-labour-criticism
If the LGBT lobby dictated policy, why is this the path of the new Labour administration?
>I'll await evidence that most British tolerate lgbt madness.
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/trackers/support-for-marriage-of-same-sex-couple
And no, this is NOT run by the government.
And in terms of culture, Heartstopper is a gay teen romance TV show. It was the most-watched TV show on Netflix in the UK. Can you tell me why this is if we all really don't like gay people?
>The armed forces, coast guard are responsible for protecting a country from attacks; invasion by illegals has been a form of attack for millennia. If they refrain from protecting their country, then they should be defunded, hand their weapons and let people take control.
And they have NOT been given permission to fire on migrants in boats. It is as simple as that. They don't get to just change their orders because they want to be a bloodthirsty fascist piece of shit like yourself.
>So you claim we, the indigenous people, don't have the right to choose who to live with, but invaders have the right to choose where to live?
There is no support for the UK being an ethnostate. Even people in the UK who want less immigration do NOT want the UK to be an ethnostate. If you are a minority in wanting to live in an ethnostate, then that is tough fucking luck. You don't get to impose it on everyone else around you. I know you are anti-western, anti-democratic hateful piece of shit who thinks you should dictate everything to everyone else - but that is NOT how western democratic countries work. Is that clear, fuckbrains?
You want to convert my country, by force, into an authoritarian totalitarian dictatorship. You want to censor me, by force. You don't think I should have any right to argue against you. You think the state should stop me. You think that the British people should be subjugated by force into a totalitarian state.
Why the fuck should I not consider you genuine pond scum?
"And what are the reactions of these same governments and multinational companies to US police shootings, or French shooting"
Don't you remember the reaction in 2020 when criminal George Floyd died, not by police but by overdose? The whole Globalist Empire accused Trump of racism, etc. Don’t you see that DemoNcrats staged the whole incident, spread chaos, mayhem and destruction in order to prevent Trump's election?
"Popular demands"? What popular demands are these?"
To stop helping Israel and demand a CEASEFIRE.
"Both parties in the USA are prominently pro-Israel. This has been the case for decades."
For decades Zionists have controlled the country's foreign policy.
"What is your fucking point?"
If a Netanyahu-like leader is elected in Europe, namely, a leader ordering killing Muslims, and invaders, the EU and other forces will try to remove him from power ASAP. Israel enjoys the right to have nationalists in power and to KILL. Europe doesn’t have that right.
" If Israel attacked themselves, why in the fuck would Hamas play along?"
They let Hamas and undercover Israeli Arabs attack, Mossad being aware of the assault, which is used to justify the massacres.
" Sorry, are you claiming that 1000+ Israelis didn't die in the attack?"
The number may be much smaller. Not 1300 but 300.
" Have you actually bothered to look for any of this data oyurself?"
If their numbers were real, they would show more footages of death. why did they focus on the fake story of 40 babies killed and on the rave concert? Where are videos of hamas killing 1300 Jews or IDF killing 1000 Hamas?
" No, you're an evil fascist because you want to overthrow the democratically elected UK government."
You are crazy. I'm PSVILLE, user of moviechat. I can't and don’t try to overthrow your stupid liberal government.
>Don't you remember the reaction in 2020 when criminal George Floyd died, not by police but by overdose? The whole Globalist Empire accused Trump of racism, etc. Don’t you see that DemoNcrats staged the whole incident, spread chaos, mayhem and destruction in order to prevent Trump's election?
Right, and what did this mean in practice? Did the world sanction the USA? No.
And I'll await evidence that the Democrats somehow "staged" the George Floyd incident.
>To stop helping Israel and demand a CEASEFIRE.
I'll await evidence that most Americans want the USA to stop supporting Israel.
>If a Netanyahu-like leader is elected in Europe, namely, a leader ordering killing Muslims, and invaders, the EU and other forces will try to remove him from power ASAP.
There is no country that has a comparable situation like Israel has. In order to do what you'd do, an elected government in Europe would have to start massacring Muslims within its borders. Israel is mass-bombing a region it did not control.
>They let Hamas and undercover Israeli Arabs attack, Mossad being aware of the assault, which is used to justify the massacres.
I'll await evidence that Israel let Hamas in.
I'll await evidence that "undercover Israeli Arabs" were involved.
>The number may be much smaller. Not 1300 but 300.
Any evidence for this whatsoever?
>If their numbers were real, they would show more footages of death. why did they focus on the fake story of 40 babies killed and on the rave concert? Where are videos of hamas killing 1300 Jews or IDF killing 1000 Hamas?
You can probably go to watchpeopledie and find all the gruesome videos you like. Most social media sites scrub extreme violence. I recall seeing a lot of video pouring out of Israel a day after the attack.
>You are crazy. I'm PSVILLE, user of moviechat. I can't and don’t try to overthrow your stupid liberal government.
But you want to. You would do so if you could.
"And I'll await evidence that the Democrats somehow "staged" the George Floyd incident."
They staged it to serve political purposes. It is no wonder it happened a few months before the election and that media lied about the criminal's cause of death: the junkie died of overdose and the full video shows him saying "I can't breathe x10" minutes before being dropped by the officer.
"I'll await evidence that most Americans want the USA to stop supporting Israel."
As an ANTI-democrat, I only serve and respect the will of the majority only if I deem it to be beneficial to society. In the case of the Gaza war, the US should demand ceasefire, stop funding the IDF.
"There is no country that has a comparable situation like Israel has."
So what? Does that mean they can kill 60,000?
"I'll await evidence that Israel let Hamas in."
Israel has one of the strongest intelligence agencies, Mossad and is a very well-guarded country. Look how fast they killed Hamas officials and Iran's president. You are a fool if you think they were caught by surprise.
" Any evidence for this whatsoever?"
The constant Israeli lies and lack of evidence.
" You can probably go to watchpeopledie and find all the gruesome videos you like."
Mass media like to show blurred gruesome videos. Why did they not show the supposed massacre committed by Hamas? The only videos I saw were those at the concert, the attack on an outpost, pictures of blood in a kibbutz. This doesn’t seem to me a massacre of 1300 people, and no video of IDF exterminating 1,000 Hamas inside Israel.
" But you want to. You would do so if you could."
Only if I had magic voodoo powers, but unlike your fellow liberals I wouldn't kill 8 billion to drop the world population to 500 million.
" Why is Wes Streeting the health minister"
I don't see him biting lgbt. At the end of the day I'm sure he'd drink teas with them.
>They staged it to serve political purposes. It is no wonder it happened a few months before the election and that media lied about the criminal's cause of death: the junkie died of overdose and the full video shows him saying "I can't breathe x10" minutes before being dropped by the officer.
Not evidence, fuckwit.
Provide evidence that the Democrats somehow staged the George Floyd incident.
>As an ANTI-democrat, I only serve and respect the will of the majority only if I deem it to be beneficial to society. In the case of the Gaza war, the US should demand ceasefire, stop funding the IDF.
So you have no evidence. You claimed most Americans want the USA to stop supporting Israel. Are you going to admit you were, as usual, making shit up?
>So what? Does that mean they can kill 60,000?
I'm simply pointing out that you can't really invent a similar situation to Israel unless like you invent a european country attacking its neighbour and then the other european country responding harshly. You also have to compact the country down into a tiny territory smaller than Luxembourg to maximise civilian casualties.
>Israel has one of the strongest intelligence agencies, Mossad and is a very well-guarded country. Look how fast they killed Hamas officials and Iran's president. You are a fool if you think they were caught by surprise.
NOT AN ARGUMENT. Provide evidence for your claim, fuckface.
>The constant Israeli lies and lack of evidence.
Lies about what?
>Mass media like to show blurred gruesome videos. Why did they not show the supposed massacre committed by Hamas?
They DID. I remember seeing them. They were blurred out, and only the peak of the iceberg, Why don't you go to the many gore websites that exist and look at them?
>The only videos I saw were those at the concert, the attack on an outpost, pictures of blood in a kibbutz. This doesn’t seem to me a massacre of 1300 people, and no video of IDF exterminating 1,000 Hamas inside Israel.
So what happened to all the people killed?
https://www.gov.il/en/pages/swords-of-iron-civilian-casualties
What happened to all these people?
>Only if I had magic voodoo powers, but unlike your fellow liberals I wouldn't kill 8 billion to drop the world population to 500 million.
Right, but you would do it. You would still subjugate me and arrest me if you could. Shithead.
And provide evidence that my "fellow liberals" want to drop the world population to 500 million.
>I don't see him biting lgbt. At the end of the day I'm sure he'd drink teas with them.
You are such a fucking moron.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/15/wes-streeting-defends-puberty-blocker-ban-decision-after-labour-criticism
Why do I have to keep repeating myself over and over? Why are you so stupid that you need links sent to you multiple times?
"Provide evidence that the Democrats somehow staged the George Floyd incident."
What a DICKHEAD that you are supporting the criminal Democrats. Mainstream media like BBC, who are 100% anti-Trump and 100% pro-lgbt, exploited the Floyd incident to damage Trump and support the Democrats ahead of the election.
" So you have no evidence. You claimed most Americans want the USA to stop supporting Israel. "
Dirty lgbt cunthead, doing his best to support the killers of 60,000 civilians.
"I'm simply pointing out that you can't really invent a similar situation to Israel "
I'm simply pointing out that you are truly an advocate of child and mother killers.
"NOT AN ARGUMENT. Provide evidence for your claim, fuckface."
Polluted CUNTHEAD, everyone knows Mossad is a very powerful intelligence agency. Evidence? They kill leaders, high-ranking officials in Iran, Syria and elsewhere. Jewish bootlicker.
"Lies about what?"
CORRUPTED ASSHOLE. Lies about 40 babies killed.
"They DID. I remember seeing them"
Provide evidence, ASSHOLE.
"arrest me if you could. Shithead"
I'd rather cut your veins and arteries and then your intestines. But that’s impossible: pieces of shit lack veins and arteries.
"And provide evidence that my "fellow liberals" want to drop the world population to 500 million."
Brainless wanker, you don't even know whom you are supporting, ASSHOLE. Georgia Guidestones: Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
" Why are you so stupid that you need links sent to you multiple times?"
So the DICKHEAD is trying to persuade me that the UK leftist cabinet is assuming an anti-lgbt stance? WHAT A COMPLETE TWAT.
" How is that Greek birthrate? How is that Korean or Japanese birthrate?"
Asshole, why do you ask AGAIN after that I answered? I said we live in decadent lands. That’s what happens when you embrace excessive liberalism.
>What a DICKHEAD that you are supporting the criminal Democrats. Mainstream media like BBC, who are 100% anti-Trump and 100% pro-lgbt, exploited the Floyd incident to damage Trump and support the Democrats ahead of the election.
That's not a fucking answer. I don't care what the BBC did. Provide evidence the Democrats staged the George Floyd incident, fuckface.
>Dirty lgbt cunthead, doing his best to support the killers of 60,000 civilians.
Again, not an answer. You, as usual, have no evidence for your claims.
>I'm simply pointing out that you are truly an advocate of child and mother killers.
And when have I ever done anything like that?
>Polluted CUNTHEAD, everyone knows Mossad is a very powerful intelligence agency. Evidence? They kill leaders, high-ranking officials in Iran, Syria and elsewhere. Jewish bootlicker.
Them being powerful is not evidence they knew that Hamas was going to attack on October 7th. All intelligency agencies have failures, complacency.
>CORRUPTED ASSHOLE. Lies about 40 babies killed.
https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel-at-war/1709472922-israeli-report-38-children-killed-on-october-7-thousands-traumatized
38 were killed.
>Provide evidence, ASSHOLE.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-middle-east-67041499
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67198270
>I'd rather cut your veins and arteries and then your intestines. But that’s impossible: pieces of shit lack veins and arteries.
Are you now making threats against me?
>Brainless wanker, you don't even know whom you are supporting, ASSHOLE. Georgia Guidestones: Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
Claims aren't evidence.
What the fuck are the "Georgia Guidestones"?
>So the DICKHEAD is trying to persuade me that the UK leftist cabinet is assuming an anti-lgbt stance? WHAT A COMPLETE TWAT.
What the fuck makes the Labour cabinet "leftist"? This would be news to all UK leftists.
And are you going to comment on Wes Streetings actual policy positions?
>Asshole, why do you ask AGAIN after that I answered? I said we live in decadent lands. That’s what happens when you embrace excessive liberalism.
Ah yes, so you do regard the west as decadent. I always knew you were a simp who has far more in common with Islam.
Also, how on earth are Korea and Japan liberal?
" Provide evidence the Democrats staged the George Floyd incident, fuckface."
Provide evidence that the Democrats weren't behind the incident, DICKHEAD.
"Again, not an answer. You, as usual, have no evidence for your claims."
You aren't disproving that you are an advocate of child killers.
"And when have I ever done anything like that?"
You support Israel, you twisted bootlicker of kikes.
"All intelligency agencies have failures, complacency."
You see, you do your best to support Israel. Even if they didn’t stage the attack on October 7, what matters is that they have STAGED HUNDREDS OF ATTACKS SINCE THEN SLAYING TENS OF THOUSANDS. MORONIC MURDEROUS IDIOT.
"38 were killed."
I don't believe them. and even if the facts are true, tiny figure compared to the tens of thousands of Palestinians. Country leaders, even from Europe, ask ceasefire, but Israelis don't give a shit, they keep bombing. They won't let the chance go away. Now is the time to drive Gazans away and expand the State of Israel.
" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-middle-east-67041499"
The wanker is linking BBC; I've seen the videos. Again the jerks focusing on a concert. No, we aren't idiots, won’t swallow your propaganda.
" Are you now making threats against me?"
I can't make threats against pieces of shit.
" Claims aren't evidence."
It is obvious they want population decrease. This is what they try to achieve through climate change and lgbt propaganda.
" What the fuck makes the Labour cabinet "leftist"?"
Complete wanker. He doesn't even know whom he's supporting. Labour is LEFT. I noticed they have an lgbt wing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT%2B_Labour
And you still think lgbt lobbies don’t influence the labour party?
" Ah yes, so you do regard the west as decadent."
It is losing power and status. The center of power is shifting towards East Asia. China will be the next number one superpower and I'm not pro-China; I'm just stating the unavoidable facts.
>Provide evidence that the Democrats weren't behind the incident, DICKHEAD.
You made the claim. You back it up. How would it even work? Get a volunteer to kill themselves to give US police negative reputation?
>You aren't disproving that you are an advocate of child killers.
You have provided no evidence that I am anything like that in the first place.
>You support Israel, you twisted bootlicker of kikes.
I support Israel over Hamas in a very general sense. Israel however is a deeply flawed nation.
>You see, you do your best to support Israel. Even if they didn’t stage the attack on October 7, what matters is that they have STAGED HUNDREDS OF ATTACKS SINCE THEN SLAYING TENS OF THOUSANDS. MORONIC MURDEROUS IDIOT.
Wait, they "staged" their response to October 7th? You've also just admitted here that you've got no evidence they staged, or allowed October 7th to happen.
>I don't believe them. and even if the facts are true, tiny figure compared to the tens of thousands of Palestinians. Country leaders, even from Europe, ask ceasefire, but Israelis don't give a shit, they keep bombing. They won't let the chance go away. Now is the time to drive Gazans away and expand the State of Israel.
You don't believe them because you're a racist, fascist, nazi piece of shit who disbelieves all Jews on principle.
And yes, Hamas did unfortunately give them all of the justification they could ever want to occupy the strip and remove them.
>The wanker is linking BBC; I've seen the videos. Again the jerks focusing on a concert. No, we aren't idiots, won’t swallow your propaganda.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/11/15/middleeast/bodycam-video-hamas-massacre-tunnels-intl/index.html
No, it does not. It shows more than that fuckface.
>I can't make threats against pieces of shit.
Anyone can make threats against anyone.
>It is obvious they want population decrease. This is what they try to achieve through climate change and lgbt propaganda.
No, it is not. You have also presented no evidence that climate change is fake, nor that increasing levels of LGBT acceptance are due to trying to promote depopulation agendas.
>Complete wanker. He doesn't even know whom he's supporting. Labour is LEFT. I noticed they have an lgbt wing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT%2B_Labour
What does that group have to do with anything?
And you do realise that leftism is way more than just a position on LGBT rights?
And you still haven't explained why Wes Streeting is allowed to remain as Health minister if the LGBT lobby somehow dictates Labours every move. I will continue to ask this until you answer it.
>And you still think lgbt lobbies don’t influence the labour party?
That's not what I said. I said that they don't dictate to the Labour party. If they did, Wes Streeting would not be banning blockers for under 18s. Explain why they're powerless here please.
>It is losing power and status. The center of power is shifting towards East Asia. China will be the next number one superpower and I'm not pro-China; I'm just stating the unavoidable facts.
The population of China is projected to crash harder than most nations by 2100.
"How would it even work?"
Very easily. Everyday many hundreds of public arrests are made in the USA and now in the internet age videos are easily available. They found one video of their liking, meeting their criteria and didn’t lose the chance to damage their opponent. The demoncrats and mainstream media didn’t consider the consequences of their actions, the damage caused by riots.
"I support Israel over Hamas in a very general sense."
You can't hide your support for the Israeli crimes. Let this forum know on what side of the history you are!
"they "staged" their response to October 7th?"
Unacceptable person that you are, a waste of space-time. Yes, they stage their attacks, organise them setting goals: to slay huge numbers of civilians and cause enormous property damage; exterminating Hamas is much less important to them.
"No, it does not. It shows more than that fuckface."
nothing, it shows only one dead and perhaps he may be faking his death. no blood. I challenge you to see videos posted on twitter by partisangirl, sahouraxo, and others. You'll feel guilt for showing an ounce of support to the Zionist State.
"What does that group have to do with anything?"
A wanker in every sense of the word. The group clearly supports lgbt interests. It is a LOBBY within the party and you failed to provide any evidence that the labour party is not influenced by them.
"If they did, Wes Streeting would not be banning blockers for under 18s."
Naïve MALAKA, he's banning use of those drugs by teens because deemed harmful to their health. Quoting: The decision comes after a review found there was "not enough evidence" they [drugs] are safe or effective. Puberty blockers, which pause the physical changes of puberty, will now only be available as part of research.
Wes Streeting and his cabal WON'T DARE harm lgbt rights.
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>Very easily. Everyday many hundreds of public arrests are made in the USA and now in the internet age videos are easily available. They found one video of their liking, meeting their criteria and didn’t lose the chance to damage their opponent. The demoncrats and mainstream media didn’t consider the consequences of their actions, the damage caused by riots.
That's not staging it. It still happened. Whether or not the Democrats took advantage of it is a different thing altogether.
>You can't hide your support for the Israeli crimes. Let this forum know on what side of the history you are!
What crimes, specifically, am I supporting?
>Unacceptable person that you are, a waste of space-time. Yes, they stage their attacks, organise them setting goals: to slay huge numbers of civilians and cause enormous property damage; exterminating Hamas is much less important to them.
Do you know what "stage" means in English in this context? I am not sure you do.
>nothing, it shows only one dead and perhaps he may be faking his death. no blood. I challenge you to see videos posted on twitter by partisangirl, sahouraxo, and others. You'll feel guilt for showing an ounce of support to the Zionist State.
Are you expecting the BBC or CNN or whoever to broadcast gore? They're not going to do that.
And I'll await evidence of people faking their deaths on October 7th.
>A wanker in every sense of the word. The group clearly supports lgbt interests. It is a LOBBY within the party and you failed to provide any evidence that the labour party is not influenced by them.
I didn't say they aren't influenced by them. I said that the Labour party doesn't always bend over to all LGBT demands. If they did, Wes Streeting would not be the Health Minister. Fuckface.
>Naïve MALAKA, he's banning use of those drugs by teens because deemed harmful to their health. Quoting: The decision comes after a review found there was "not enough evidence" they [drugs] are safe or effective. Puberty blockers, which pause the physical changes of puberty, will now only be available as part of research.
>Wes Streeting and his cabal WON'T DARE harm lgbt rights.
You are a fucking moron. That is a HUGE bone of contention for LGBT groups.
https://www.thepinknews.com/2024/07/15/wes-streeting-puberty-blockers-trans-health/
https://www.lgbtlabour.org.uk/open_letter_on_puberty_blockers
https://www.thepinknews.com/2024/01/30/wes-streeting-single-sex-wards-labour-trans/
"That's not staging it. It still happened. "
It happened because they wanted it to happen. Simple question: out of all the THOUSANDS RECORDED ARRESTS in the USA every year, why was Floyd's arrest given SO MUCH IMPORTANCE? Isn't that suspicious? Why was a black MOBSTER'S arrest SO SPECIAL and SELECTED by the media to damage Trump? WAKE UP.
"What crimes, specifically, am I supporting?"
The Israeli crimes.
"And I'll await evidence of people faking their deaths on October 7th."
I'll await evidence of 1300 Israelis being killed by Hamas on October 7th. Videos, not lists which may include fake names.
" I said that the Labour party doesn't always bend over to all LGBT demands."
Did I say or imply they pass ALL the lgbt demands? NO. I said they influence (lobby) the labour party, but even the labour party draws red lines.
" https://www.lgbtlabour.org.uk/open_letter_on_puberty_blockers"
If puberty drugs are HARMFUL to teens, banning them doesn’t hurt lgbt rights! A British man will still enjoy the right to become a "woman" (this the UK's progress today, how to change sex or become asexualized pansexual, one less country in the competitive world of hi-tech innovation and production; the BRICS approve, and will triumph, they prefer a weak enemy).
" Provide evidence for this claim please. "
Given the low birth rates, lgbt propaganda, Celts and Anglo-Saxons will be a small minority by 2100 like Indians are now in the USA. Replacement of indigenous population. You may say that's not a bad thing: yes, not bad because many modern white Britons are WEAK and it is the strongest who survive: blacks and browns are more fit for survival today.
" That's not crashing"
I think you should care more about the UK's failures and loss of power than about China's projected crush. With 1 billion or 500 million, China will still be Chinese and strong in 2100.
>It happened because they wanted it to happen. Simple question
It doesn't matter if they "wanted it to happen". They didn't make it happen. The police officer still chose to do what he did. No-one directed Derek Chauvin or George Floyds actions or behaviour. It wasn't "staged".
>out of all the THOUSANDS RECORDED ARRESTS in the USA every year, why was Floyd's arrest given SO MUCH IMPORTANCE? Isn't that suspicious? Why was a black MOBSTER'S arrest SO SPECIAL and SELECTED by the media to damage Trump? WAKE UP.
I have no idea. The whole thing was filmed, and was egregious, but I don't sit and watch all dodgy police detainments in the USA to make any kind of comparison. Notably though George Floyd actually died and most detainments in the USA do not result in that.
But again, it was not staged.
>The Israeli crimes.
And how am I doing that?
>I'll await evidence of 1300 Israelis being killed by Hamas on October 7th. Videos, not lists which may include fake names.
Are you demanding 1,300 murder videos?
And I'll ask again:
So what happened to all the people killed?
https://www.gov.il/en/pages/swords-of-iron-civilian-casualties
What happened to all these people? If they didn't really die, where are they now?
>Did I say or imply they pass ALL the lgbt demands? NO. I said they influence (lobby) the labour party, but even the labour party draws red lines.
Yes you did. You said that the Labour Party is completely in their pocket.
And again, LGBT rights in terms of marriage, adoption, media, etc are widely accepted in the UK today. There's zero support for attacking any of them.
>If puberty drugs are HARMFUL to teens, banning them doesn’t hurt lgbt rights! A British man will still enjoy the right to become a "woman" (this the UK's progress today, how to change sex or become asexualized pansexual, one less country in the competitive world of hi-tech innovation and production; the BRICS approve, and will triumph, they prefer a weak enemy).
I didn't ask for your opinion. I pointed out how the Labour Party does not just roll over for LGBT lobbyists.
>Given the low birth rates, lgbt propaganda, Celts and Anglo-Saxons will be a small minority by 2100 like Indians are now in the USA.
The UK has better birth rates than Greece. And many other parts of the west. And I'll await actual demographic data if you please. And "LGBT propaganda" is not responsible for straight people choosing to not have kids.
>I think you should care more about the UK's failures and loss of power than about China's projected crush. With 1 billion or 500 million, China will still be Chinese and strong in 2100.
The point is you claimed that China is on the ascendancy. Their population is projected to crash way lower than many western nations.
"Notably though George Floyd actually died and most detainments in the USA do not result in that."
He died of overdose, not by the police. The media LIED.
"So what happened to all the people killed?"
I don't trust their data. Some may be true, but not all and they blow up things. They are well-known liars and control media.
"Yes you did. You said that the Labour Party is completely in their pocket."
I didn't say that. I wrote "Gays and trans have their lobbies too."
" The UK has better birth rates than Greece."
Only thanks to browns and blacks and migrants in general, not to the shrinking white Celtic and Anglo-Saxon population.
" And "LGBT propaganda" is not responsible for straight people choosing to not have kids."
Youngsters tend to ape; lgbt appear as groovy, fashionable, trendy. Straight young women or men will join their community as bisexual or Questioning (Q) or as something else just for the sake of fitting in the trend. Lgbt disfavor families. Straight people that are friends of them follow suit.
>He died of overdose, not by the police. The media LIED.
He still died shortly afterwards. The connection was there and made. Also, your analysis here is suspect:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-56670912
>I don't trust their data. Some may be true, but not all and they blow up things. They are well-known liars and control media.
Not an answer: What happened to all those people in that list? Where are they now?
>I didn't say that. I wrote "Gays and trans have their lobbies too."
Okay. Big whoop. Christians have lobbies too. Feminists have lobbies. TERFs have lobbies.
>Only thanks to browns and blacks and migrants in general, not to the shrinking white Celtic and Anglo-Saxon population.
I don't think this is actually true. Greece birthrate is from what I recall, along with Polands, amongst the worst in Europe. Below UK anglo-saxon birthrates.
>Youngsters tend to ape; lgbt appear as groovy, fashionable, trendy. Straight young women or men will join their community as bisexual or Questioning (Q) or as something else just for the sake of fitting in the trend. Lgbt disfavor families. Straight people that are friends of them follow suit.
I'll await evidence that straight people who disfavour families do so because of LGBT pressure or influence.
" Also, how on earth are Korea and Japan liberal?"
Tolerant of lgbt, feminism, social changes, sexual liberation etc. unlike the Western leaders, they are intolerant of Islam though.
"We're talking about knowledge. They're not the same thing, fuckface."
And? Knowledge doesn’t give you more power, compared to your well-beloved migrants.
"When did I do that a few days ago?"
Yes you did so, FUCKFACE. I remember well.
" I have no idea about Maduros election results."
Still it didn’t prevent you from questioning his victory.
>Tolerant of lgbt, feminism, social changes, sexual liberation etc. unlike the Western leaders, they are intolerant of Islam though.
Korea is not /that/ tolerant of LGBT. Nor Japan. They're okay. But they're nowhere near, say, Sweden or UK in many ways. Taiwan and Thailand seem further along in that regard.
Korea and Japan are also not feminist really. And what "social changes" are you referring to?
>And? Knowledge doesn’t give you more power, compared to your well-beloved migrants.
I didn't say it did give me power. I did however say that it made me more informed than my country as compared to fascist scumbags such as yourself.
>Yes you did so, FUCKFACE. I remember well.
I'll await evidence from you.
"The population of China is projected to crash harder than most nations by 2100."
The population of the United Kingdom is projected to crash harder than most nations by 2100. REPLACED. That’s what happens when so many Britons care more about trans and migrant rights than about wellbeing and the nation's competitiveness in tech sector and manufacturing.
"But they're nowhere near, say, Sweden or UK in many ways"
So you are a demanding person, you want them to be as liberal as your country, otherwise not liberal enough. Bad students. You point your finger at them and telling how liberal they must be. Colonialist mindset.
"And what "social changes" are you referring to?"
Pop culture among others. South Korea and Japan are Asia's top pop music nations.
"I'll await evidence from you."
https://moviechat.org/bd0000082/Politics/66be000861d8ee19e233cfc8/More-people-getting-jail-time-over-social-media-posts-in-the-UK?reply=66bfb24cd0430852c28fbebd
Skavau the IDIOT who said today he knows nothing about Venezuelan elections wrote 19 days ago: You understand there's plenty of evidence for rigged elections in Venezuela once?
>The population of the United Kingdom is projected to crash harder than most nations by 2100.
Provide evidence for this claim please.
>REPLACED. That’s what happens when so many Britons care more about trans and migrant rights than about wellbeing and the nation's competitiveness in tech sector and manufacturing.
That's not crashing. By crashing I mean well over half of the current population just not existing in China in 2100.
>So you are a demanding person, you want them to be as liberal as your country, otherwise not liberal enough. Bad students. You point your finger at them and telling how liberal they must be. Colonialist mindset.
I said no such thing. I made the point that they are simply just not pro-LGBT countries in the way you portray.
And you have no grounds to complain about any kind of colonialism from anyone else, fuckface.
>Pop culture among others. South Korea and Japan are Asia's top pop music nations.
And what is wrong with their pop culture here exactly?
>Skavau the IDIOT who said today he knows nothing about Venezuelan elections wrote 19 days ago: You understand there's plenty of evidence for rigged elections in Venezuela once?
First of all, a few days ago is not 19 days ago.
And yes, there is plenty of evidence and data online. You can look at all the data online. I just haven't looked into the Venezuelan situation here personally.
" they are simply just not pro-LGBT countries in the way you portray."
They are lgbt-tolerant enough and tolerance of Lgbt stupidity isn't a country's only indicator of liberalism.
" And what is wrong with their pop culture here exactly?"
Did I say there's something wrong with their pop culture? You asked about social changes, I gave an example of liberalism.
" First of all, a few days ago is not 19 days ago."
So, you had no clue about the elections and yet you questioned their results. IDIOT, yes or not?
>They are lgbt-tolerant enough and tolerance of Lgbt stupidity isn't a country's only indicator of liberalism.
Right. They don't actively persecute LGBT people. So?
>Did I say there's something wrong with their pop culture? You asked about social changes, I gave an example of liberalism.
And so they still have bad birth rates.
>So, you had no clue about the elections and yet you questioned their results. IDIOT, yes or not?
And your knowledge of UK results is, exactly?
Nicolas Maduro is a well-known autocrat.
"Nicolas Maduro is a well-known autocrat."
United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Saudi Arabia (enemies of lgbt), Kuwait, China, Azerbaijan (killer of Armenians), etc. are Undemocratic lands ruled by well-known autocrats. Why do Western democratic regimes have business with them and not with Maduro? Why is Maduro BAD and the other autocrats GOOD? The answer is because Maduro is friend of Russia and not a friend of America.
>United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Saudi Arabia (enemies of lgbt), Kuwait, China, Azerbaijan (killer of Armenians), etc. are Undemocratic lands ruled by well-known autocrats. Why do Western democratic regimes have business with them and not with Maduro? Why is Maduro BAD and the other autocrats GOOD? The answer is because Maduro is friend of Russia and not a friend of America.
Ideally, we shouldn't. We should do much better here.
I don't recall ever defending any of those countries.
" I said nothing about 'rights', but knowledge. I also know more about the UK than any migrants who have just arrived here."
Asshole, it doesn't give you more rights before the British government. Migrants have equal rights to you. Don’t dare violate the golden rule of EQUALITY. MORONIC TURD.
" That's not my rule."
Lying cunthead who questioned Maduro's victory a few days ago. Lousy WANKER.
" So you admit you are talking out of your ass."
Like you talked out of your ass questioning Maduro's victory.
>Asshole, it doesn't give you more rights before the British government. Migrants have equal rights to you. Don’t dare violate the golden rule of EQUALITY. MORONIC TURD.
We're not talking about rights. We're talking about knowledge. They're not the same thing, fuckface.
>Lying cunthead who questioned Maduro's victory a few days ago. Lousy WANKER.
When did I do that a few days ago?
>Like you talked out of your ass questioning Maduro's victory.
I have no idea about Maduros election results. The opposition of Veneuzela themselves claimed fraud. Most international observers cast doubt on the validity of it, however.
" And how is that legendary Greek birthrate?"
Your patriotic instinct activated to defend the UK. DemoNcracies: all on the road to extinction. Decadent lands. I'm not anti-West when I say so. There's hope left though.
" I have more knowledge of UK affairs than you do because I have lived my life here."
Don’t be racist, disclaim your privilege: you can't have more rights and knowledge about Britain than Ugandans and Lesothons invading the UK.
" On what grounds do you question the results?"
Because I follow democratic teachings. Rule 311: Whenever you don't like a leader, say Orban, Maduro or Putin, deny his win and claim it to be rigged and try to remove him from office (see failed assassination of Fico in Slovakia, dead Iranian President, West's puppet in Venezuela Juan Guaidó). So, I question the results without evidence, just because I want so.
>Your patriotic instinct activated to defend the UK. DemoNcracies: all on the road to extinction. Decadent lands. I'm not anti-West when I say so. There's hope left though.
Not a fucking answer, shithead. How is that Greek birthrate? How is that Korean or Japanese birthrate?
You are piece of shit anti-westerner who has way more in common with the Mullahs of Iran than any western country.
>Don’t be racist, disclaim your privilege: you can't have more rights and knowledge about Britain than Ugandans and Lesothons invading the UK.
I said nothing about 'rights', but knowledge. I also know more about the UK than any migrants who have just arrived here.
>Because I follow democratic teachings. Rule 311: Whenever you don't like a leader, say Orban, Maduro or Putin, deny his win and claim it to be rigged and try to remove him from office (see failed assassination of Fico in Slovakia, dead Iranian President, West's puppet in Venezuela Juan Guaidó).
That's not my rule.
I'll also await evidence that the west tried to assassinate Robert Fico. And I'll await evidence that people in the west claimed that the Slovakian elections were rigged.
The Russian and Hungarian situations are much complex and are the consequence of long-term political capture of state institutions, media etc.
>So, I question the results without evidence, just because I want so.
So you admit you are talking out of your ass.
We just had an election, and the combined results of Labour, Lib Dems, and the Greens was over 50%. Not to mention regional parties like Plaid Cymru, SNP and many different types of independent candidates. How do you explain that?
You also didn't explain this. Why did more tolerant (relatively speaking) liberal parties win the popular vote in the last UK election? If you're right, then that should not have happened.
Why is this?
" If the LGBT lobby dictated policy, why is this the path of the new Labour administration?"
The government has passed almost all whims of the spoiled Lgbt community: you can marry, change sex, adopt kids, etc. Banning harmful drugs won’t hurt your plenty of other rights.
"And they have NOT been given permission to fire on migrants in boats."
In my opinion, they should be given permission to fire. Don’t dictate what Greece should do.
" There is no support for the UK being an ethnostate."
Then the UK is a dying nation. You'll see it getting weaker and weaker. It has lost its status of world power.
" You want to convert my country, by force, into an authoritarian totalitarian dictatorship."
A paranoid gay. Expressing my opinion on a minor forum about the West (not only the UK) doesn’t mean I can or try to convert your country. But wait a minute, why do you have more right than me to dictate British matters? Is it because you are a British citizen? ISN'T YOUR PRIVILEGE RACIST AND FASCIST? Liberals and globalists don’t want nations and countries; they want a GLOBAL GOVERNMENT, so foreigners from any part of the world have EQUAL SAY in managing British and London affairs.
"How do you explain that?"
I question the results. If they are true, you live in a land of IDIOTS; alas, it's not the only land of idiots in Europe. Such a shame, as Talk Talk would sing.
>The government has passed almost all whims of the spoiled Lgbt community: you can marry, change sex, adopt kids, etc. Banning harmful drugs won’t hurt your plenty of other rights.
Answer my question: Why is Wes Streeting the health minister if the "whims" of the "spoiled LGBT community" are always met?
The UK public is widely in support of gay marriage, access to sex change procedures (for adults), and adoption.
>In my opinion, they should be given permission to fire. Don’t dictate what Greece should do.
When did I dictate what Greece should do?
>Then the UK is a dying nation. You'll see it getting weaker and weaker. It has lost its status of world power.
And how is that legendary Greek birthrate? How's the birthrates in South Korea and Japan?
>A paranoid gay.
I'm not gay. But if I was, you would wish to force me to take drugs against my will.
>Expressing my opinion on a minor forum about the West (not only the UK) doesn’t mean I can or try to convert your country. But wait a minute, why do you have more right than me to dictate British matters?
I have more knowledge of UK affairs than you do because I have lived my life here. You presume to tell me how British people think despite knowing nothing about what happens here.
>Is it because you are a British citizen? ISN'T YOUR PRIVILEGE RACIST AND FASCIST? Liberals and globalists don’t want nations and countries; they want a GLOBAL GOVERNMENT, so foreigners from any part of the world have EQUAL SAY in managing British and London affairs.
I've never said I want a global government.
>I question the results.
On what grounds do you question the results?
PSville, Skavau is a well-known gaslighting bitch who will lie and try to bombard you with insincere questions about the patently obvious in the hope of exhausting you.
At the same time he will try to dodge all of your sincere questions.
He will also keep strawmanning your position to waste your time having to correct him.
He’s a degenerate hard left ideologue with a bag of dirty rhetorical tricks and zero substance.
Just a heads up.
>PSville, Skavau will lie and try to bombard you with insincere questions about the patently obvious in the hope of exhausting you.
What insincere questions are these? No doubt you'll be unable to name them.
PSVille has just gone on public record defending murdering non-white people. I don't think I need to go much more than that.
>At the same time he will try to dodge all of your sincere questions.
I have replied to every single part of his post.
>He will also keep strawmanning your position to waste your time having to correct him.
"Strawmans" you won't be able to name because you're too stupid.
Another racist post by the MC KKK Grand Wizard.
Cause for fire in unknown.
https://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=63271
Stop blaming everything on nonwhites!
If they didn't burn down this one they burned down some other one. They are always up to no good.
shareYou're a racist. And your racist posts are prohibited by MC:
"Content that incites hatred against, promotes discrimination of, or disparages an individual or group on the basis of their race or ethnic origin, religion, disability, age, nationality, veteran status, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, or other characteristic that is associated with systemic discrimination or marginalization."
The term racist is an anti-White slur.
You're a Bigot.
Stop gaslighting.
shareYou know that if someone was criticizing White people you wouldn't give a flying fuck about "racism".
Also, how do you propose that rule be interpreted? Should we ban all conversations about immigration into Europe and the U.S. because the people coming in are not White?
Should I be banned for posting videos of black people committing crimes because that might incite racial hatred?
What is it that you're hoping to accomplish by citing that rule? Do you want to get me banned, is that it? Do you want to turn this place into a boring echo chamber? If so, then why not put me on Ignore? Why do you feel it is your place to make that decision for others? Anyone who finds my posts offensive could simply put me on Ignore.
You're having a temper tantrum because you want to race bait on MC.
You're defying MC rules!
Damn shame.
A truly gorgeous old building, if some bunch of creeps did that on purpose they should do thirty years in the cellar of the prison.
Old buildings are known for sketchy wiring though. It might have just been a terrible accident.
Fire started in the sacristy for unknown reason around 4:30 am and spread.
Probably a smoldering cigarette considering where and when it started. Investigation underway so we'll know soon.
Unfortunately, the OP likes to race bait.
It will just be another shithole like the countries the scum migrants they imported came from. Multiculturalism just means turning every country into a third world shithole so the bankers can control everything and have a peasant class too dumb to revolt.
shareMulticulturalism leads to Tyranny. This was already pointed out by Aristotle 2300 years ago.
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