Then don't count on there ever being another female Presidential Candidate chosen again and that goes for both the Republican and Democrat side because America simply won't stand for this shit nor the process in which the Democrats went about installing this woman without so much as one vote nor a Primary to give others a chance and again, America isn't stupid and notices shit like this and they won't stand for it again..
shareLast night was a disaster.
Kamala Harris is not an individual candidate that represents The People. She is an installed System Candidate that says whatever she is told to, in order for The System to maintain power. This is why they hate Trump, he isn't part of Their System("Our Democracy")
Kamala is a brainless twit. She was given a softball interview by a far left sycophant and she still managed to embarrass herself. Meanwhile Donald Trump walks into hostile interviews where the interviewers hate him and he mops the floor with them. She is not qualified to be president and it’s really scary that there are people stupid enough to vote for her.
shareThe Democrats own internal selection process is their own business. Not sure why it annoying you specifically means you should never vote for a woman candidate again. How is it their fault?
shareWhy should the people vote for a candidate they didn't choose?
shareThey don't have to.
shareSkavau's right on this one. There's really no sense in complaining about a candidate you have no intention of voting for. Who cares how she got on the ballot? Until the late 19th century, parties chose their presidential candidate without resorting to primaries.
shareBecause she is the one whining and moaning about democracy yet she got the nomination by overthrowing democracy. She could be the next president so therefore her actions very much do affect everyone.
shareShe didn't overthrow democracy. She's on the ballot and in a perfect world the outcome of the election would depend on a democratic process. Unfortunately we live in an age of fortified elections, so there's not much point getting your knickers in a twist about "democracy".
shareShe did overthrow democracy, she did not receive a single primary vote and the people who voted for Brandon were disenfranchised. She did overthrow the election process and should be investigated for that and her role in 7-13.
shareThe Democrat primary process is up to the Democrats, and if would-be Democrat voters don't like it they are welcome to punish the Democrat party at the ballot box.
The US primary system is convention, not law. People who win primaries aren't elected, they're just chosen by their party to be their candidate.
Whether it's a law or not is irrelevant. Cacklin' Kamala moaned and complained for 4 years about democracy yet ironically the only reason she got the nomination was because democracy was subverted. That makes her a hypocrite. She should not have accepted the nomination and should have either A) Told the Democrat Establishment to respect the will of the people and stand behind Brandon or B) Conceded the election to Trump. Either way she's a liar and a hypocrite.
share>Whether it's a law or not is irrelevant. Cacklin' Kamala moaned and complained for 4 years about democracy yet ironically the only reason she got the nomination was because democracy was subverted.
What did she complain specifically about as pertains to democracy?
There's a difference between the procedure of a political party and the actual electoral process to choosing representatives to sit in the house, senate or as president.
Parties could just flip coins to choose who represents them if they like. It doesn't matter. Again: if would-be Democrat voters don't like it they are welcome to punish the Democrat party at the ballot box.
Ummmmm, she was a champion of the far left witch hunt 1/6 committee that spent 2 years wasting our time on a nothing burger. Are you saying she was against the 1/6 committee? If so why didn’t she say anything.
If she truly cared about democracy she would not have accepted the nomination. She’s nothing more than an entitled princess.
>Ummmmm, she was a champion of the far left witch hunt 1/6 committee that spent 2 years wasting our time on a nothing burger. Are you saying she was against the 1/6 committee? If so why didn’t she say anything.
And what does that have to do with the Democrat primary process?
>If she truly cared about democracy she would not have accepted the nomination. She’s nothing more than an entitled princess.
No, because people still have the opportunity to vote against her in the actual competition proper. She hasn't derailed democracy in the slightest.
The Democrat “primary process” didn’t respect democracy, that’s what.
No one voted for her in the primary, so in the spirit of democracy shouldn’t she refuse the nomination?
>The Democrat “primary process” didn’t respect democracy, that’s what.
Possibly. So what? That's their own process. Parties can do whatever they want.
>No one voted for her in the primary, so in the spirit of democracy shouldn’t she refuse the nomination?
Indirectly they did in the sense that she was the heir apparent if Biden was to stand down.
If they cared so much about democracy then they would have respected the will of the people and not forced Brandon to step down. When they bitch about Trump being a “threat to democracy” they don’t mean it, their actions prove they don’t. The left is full of shit as per usual.
share>If they cared so much about democracy then they would have respected the will of the people and not forced Brandon to step down.
What happened there is in any other representative democracy, entirely normal, Biden was badly underperforming, showing serious age-related strains and was pressured to stand down in favour of his VP. The Democratic party as a party can run their affairs as they see fit. I will never stop repeating this until you understand this.
You can accept that and also accept that the actual electoral process, where two parties (or more) face off against each other to see who wins the seat is of direct importance to the health of the actual country.
>When they bitch about Trump being a “threat to democracy” they don’t mean it, their actions prove they don’t. The left is full of shit as per usual.
Have the Democrats threatened the electoral credibility of the actual election? A primary is not the general.
You know in most western countries, parties primaries are closed-affairs right? The US system is very unusual here.
A primary is an actual election, and they overthrew it.
Does Kamala Harris believe in democracy, yes or no?
>A primary is an actual election, and they overthrew it.
It's an election to the position of a candidate. In most countries, this is an entirely closed-affair sometimes decided by leaders of local party branches.
You are unbelievably ignorant to how most parties work in representative democracies.
Nevermind also the silliness of primaries anyway. I seem to recall the Republicans had multiple closed primaries decided by local parties in 2020, disenfranchising Bill Weld. Did you equally get angry about that?
>Does Kamala Harris believe in democracy, yes or no?
I see no reason why she doesn't at all.
Then if she believes in democracy shouldn’t she have been against the Democrat establishment forcing Brandon out?
shareThey couldn't force him out. They had no power to do so. He could have continually refused.
And you didn't answer my question about Bill Weld in 2020.
Yes they did, the Obama’s, Pelosi, Schumer, etc. high pressured him to subvert the will of the people and drop out of the race. They essentially did force him out.
If Kamala believes in democracy why didn’t she speak out about this?
I refuse to go any further until you answer my question about Bill Weld.
shareThen you’re going to be waiting a very long time. I’m not letting you weasel your way out of this one.
shareI'm happy to go on (althought your claims are rooted in presuppositions about Biden's withdrawal that you simply cannot know) so long as you answer my point about Bill Weld and how he was basically throttled from competing against Trump in 2020 in the Republican primaries, and why that didn't seem to bother you.
Why the fuck should I answer your questions when you refuse to answer mine?
Because you still haven't given me an honest answer and now you're trying to deflect away like a coward much like your candidate who refuses to answer any hard questions.
shareI am quite happy to answer (again) but you refuse to answer mine. Dialogue goes both ways. You ignore that the Republican Party specifically throttled Bill Weld in 2020 and don't give a fuck that they did that. You are a selfish arrogant piece of shit. I am exposing your blatant hypocrisy.
Primaries have always been memes in the USA, and are often not especially competitive.
You say you're "quite happy to answer" yet you refuse to.
When you answer my question. That you also refuse to answer.
Fuckface
Woa, "fuckface"? Someone's getting a little cranky.
You're trying to deflect and hide. You're no better than Cacklin' Kamala and Tampon Tim.
By "deflect and hide" you mean openly stating that I'll actually answer if you answer my query about why Bill Weld being disenfranchised doesn't seem to bother you.
Your hypocrisy and blatant anti-democratic attitude is noticed. Scumbag.
You are deflecting and hiding and you are inventing excuses to not own up to the very obvious flaws in your ideology. You’re a joke as are Cacklin’ Kamala and Tampon Tim.
shareI have told you repeatedly that if you explain to me why Bill Weld being disenfranchised by the Republican party in 2020 somehow doesn't bother you, I'll happily go on answering the same question.
But because you're a piece of shit cowardly hypocrite who has zero self-awareness, you'll go on refusing to address it.
And I'm not taking your deflection bait. You're trying to steer the conversation away from the topic because you're a coward and you know you can't win on the issues much like Kamala.
shareNo, I'm trying to expand the topic at best.
I'm happy to answer, but your congentional cowardliness is a matter of public record. I've answered repeatedly that private political parties can do what they want in terms of their own selection process, and do so in many countries. Some are democratic, some are not.
This seems to specifically upset you when it comes to the Democrats this time, but you don't seem to give a fuck that the Republicans did it it to Bill Weld in 2020 by shutting up a bunch of the primary contests and waving Trump through. So by your own logic you don't give a fuck about democracy.
In short, you are a piece of shit hypocrite. I will never stop reminding you of this.
Scumbag.
We're perfectly happy with her as our candidate. If she wasn't a good choice for us, we'd be up in arms over what happened. We'd be protesting. But she's great, so we're fine with it.
Sorry again that you're going to be so humiliated in November. Have fun attacking the US Capital again this January.
What is it about her that you find "great"?
shareI've liked her for a long time. First time I ever became aware of her was probably 15 years ago when she was on Real Time With Bill Maher or some other political panel show, she must have been District Attorney at the time. She impressed me back then and I never forgot. I'm a lifelong lefty, but I'm not soft on crime, so I liked that she had a record as a prosecutor with a lot of victories. I was stoked when she ran for president herself years later, and I was disappointed she did so poorly. I would have been happy if she was the candidate in 2020 and I was glad she became VP. I'm glad she didn't kowtow to the brain dead pro Palestine crowd that doesn't know wtf they're talking about; she can't be 100% pro Israel, that would be political suicide for her. I'm totally with her that too many corporations are still taking advantage of covid lockdown price hikes and those greedy fucks need to be spanked and corrected. I don't have a list of bullet points. I've just known for a very long time that I'm generally aligned with her politically and I think she's sharp.
shareFair enough. Thanks for the answer.
shareSo you’re ok with someone else making that choice for you?
sharePolitical parties have their own internal processes and put up who they want, however they want. That's how it works in every country. It's mostly an American tradition that does public primaries, although they're flawed in their own ways
shareIt depends on the situation. In this case, I would have chosen her anyway so there's no need for me to be wringing my hands over anything. I think it's hilarious that the only people upset about it are MAGAts who thought they had an easy win against Biden.
shareIn many cases, half the primary voters don't decide who represents them in presidentials anyway as by the time their state rolls around, a bunch of candidates have suspended their campaign or the winner is more-or-less decided.
Iowa and New Hampshire get big says but often those votes themselve cause candidates to drop out. By the time its on to the 33rd state primary or something else, the winner is often more-or-less known
"I think it's hilarious that the only people upset about it are MAGAts who thought they had an easy win against Biden."
Really? Thats why you think people are mad she is a breath away from the WH? You are confused.
Well, we Democrats aren't mad. The only ones mad about it are MAGAt repuglicans. I don't blame them, I'd be mad too I thought my side had an easy win in the bag and then had to eat this much shit. XD
shareBe careful talking to Skavau. He is a snitch. His goal is to get you to say something that violates the rules so that he can get you banned.
Skavau is a snitch, pass it on.
You know, I think repeatedly hounding a user across multiple threads is in itself against the site rules.
Am I now that rent-free in your head?
I didn't vote for Biden in the primary in 2020. I voted for him in the general election.
And I've never chosen Trump.
Nor should there be. Does anyone think Kamala would be a competent leader to try and fix the numerous foreign policy blunders of the Biden Regime which she is a part of. The answer is hell no and we are screwed if she wins.
shareI don't know why you blame Biden for Israel's decisions or Putin's. You think the US president is some kind of puppet master? Putin wishes he invaded Ukraine when Trump was prez.
shareI don't know why you blame Biden for Israel's decisions or Putin's.
Biden has been standing up to Putin, which is a lot more than Trump ever did. In fact, when did Trump every show any spine in international affairs? Besides talking tough and then bending over.
shareHamas wouldn't have attacked Israel on Oct 7th of last year and Putin wouldn't have invade Ukraine if Trump was President. I think I read somewhere that were was an agreement to prevent the Russia/ Ukraine war but the Biden Regime tanked it. Both of these wars happened because the world knows Biden is spineless and he was paid off by his corporate war profiteering donors. Corruption at its absolute worst.
share> I think I read somewhere that were was an agreement to prevent the Russia/ Ukraine war but the Biden Regime tanked it.
Making shit up.
And presumably such a deal requires Ukraine to surrender large chunks of their territory.
Not sure what the Hamas gambit of October 7th has to do with Biden.
No, they are right. Biden and Kamala wanted to use force and violence to resolve these problems. They love killing the innocent side as an excuse to manipulate the people.
shareHe presented zero evidence. Who are you also alleging is the "innocent side" as pertains to Russia or Ukraine?
How is it the Hamas/Israel conflict would've been prevented exactly under Trump?
The biden administration has supported, much more than any other administration, Netanyahu and Israel's crimes on Gazans and Palestinians in general. Jews pull the strings and control the USA foreign policy. Biden, Harris, blinken and Austin don’t have the courage to stop Netanyahu; they just give Israel billions of $ and timidly ask him to stop bombarding, but Netanyahu doesn’t heed their request, just gets the $$$$ and keeps bombarding civilians. Very shameful pages in the history of America.
shareTrump needs to nail her on this in the debate. Whenever she talks about what she’s going to do to fix the economy he needs to ask her “then why haven’t you done it?”
sharea.) She WILL be installed once the votes are "found" over the weeks following November 5
b.) America has no choice. Filthy rich fascists control the elections now. If they want to install a woman, a transgender, whatever, they will. See George Carlin's spiel about 'The Big Club.'
If Trump wins and they attempt to try and remove him even after he won more than the required amount of "Electoral College Votes" which is 270, then they're determined to start Civil unrest over it, plain and simple and they'll lose badly for it. Sorry folks but becoming President of the U.S is not, NOT about who has the Popular Vote, but the Electoral College Vote and it has been this way for like EVER and it's effective
shareI'm surprised Biden hasn't used an executive order to get rid of the electoral college. The establishment party has made it clear they don't like it for some time now (even attempting to call it racist...).
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I'm surprised Biden hasn't used an executive order to get rid of the electoral college
If she doesn’t win, the world will be a better, less violent place. She's warlike, evil and hateful, like blinken, biden, Hillary Clinton, Pelosi, nuland etc.
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