Here she is fully admitting to making Biden drop out of the race, despite the fact that he was the winner of the primary and the choice the people made. These people chose your candidate for you and you're too dumb to realize the ramifications of such an act. THIS is the existential threat to democracy.
https://youtu.be/14E5S-Abcwk?si=VSoXNXwLKlTu_e5X
Then Democrat voters are free to reject Kamala Harris, and vote Trump, or third-party, or just not turn out at all.
shareDemocrats already chose Joe Biden, not Kamaltoe. The choice between Biden and Harris was made FOR them. I know you're a dumbass Brit but you should know how this works.
shareI'm well aware of this. He stepped down after the primary selection process.
If they don't like how they do their primary process this time around, they can show that by just not voting for Kamala Harris. How a political party selects candidates is not an attack on democracy.
Bullshit. Biden was forced out by his party after the primary, because they thought he couldn't win, big difference. It is paramount to the democratic process. The people choose their candidate within their party and then they choose which candidate to vote for. I know this is difficult for you subjects to understand.
share>Bullshit. Biden was forced out by his party after the primary, because they thought he couldn't win, big difference.
Okay so? Pressured by his party to quit. And he did. If Democrats don't like that, they can always abstain in the general presidential election.
>It is paramount to the democratic process.
Dude, the Democrats could decide their candidates for office by rolling a dice or playing rock paper scissors if they like. So could the Republicans. It's internal party affairs.
>The people choose their candidate within their party and then they choose which candidate to vote for. I know this is difficult for you subjects to understand.
I fully understand this. But this isn't required by law within parties. Various Republican states in 2016 and 2020 just privately chose who they would endorse.
The US primary system is pretty much a joke anyway, in my opinion. By the time it reaches the halfway point, the winner is usually more-or-less known and various candidates have withdrawn.
Quite the systemic improvement in democracy: Here’s who George Clooney and Barack Obama have chosen for you to vote for. If you disagree, stay home and watch TV.
This is the Vladimir Putin election path. At least he could point to names listed as opponents on his ballots.
>Quite the systemic improvement in democracy: Here’s who George Clooney and Barack Obama have chosen for you to vote for. If you disagree, stay home and watch TV.
Are people somehow unable to vote for anyone else other than who Obama and Clooney endorse?
>This is the Vladimir Putin election path. At least he could point to names listed as opponents on his ballots.
Tell me you know nothing about Russias political deprivation without telling me.
This is some mafia stuff. At least we know who is running the country now
shareLook, we understand how devastated youse are about the fact the other party, the one you have no part in and would never vote for anyway, didn't do things exactly as you would have 'approved of'.
But, you know, tough shit. Do we look like :
a. we care what MAGAts have to say about our party and our business, or
b. we've shown any outrage WITHIN our party about the process ? (About zero, other than dissent over Gaza, which pre-existed the change in candidates). There were about 90 days to get our act together, and by Zeus, that's EXACTLY what we've done..
Which is actually what bothers you folks. You were expecting a walk-over. You was wobbed. :)
Yeah the concern Trump supporters have for disillusioned Biden voters is heartwarming. Maybe we should put Biden back on top of the ticket. Things were going so well when that was the plan.
sharelol. exactly. they think their phony concern trolling isn't as obvious as every other bit of malarky they peddle.
shareYou didn't choose your candidate, you are being told to vote for someone.
shareThanks for sharing, sasquatch. Quite happy w/ VP Harris and Mr. Walz. I don't need a Trumpy stooge as my spirit guide. :)
You people's effrontery is boundless & ridiculous.
Now, to be honest, we were in fact truly jobbed by President Biden, but you know, he didn't start a riot to stay in power, just hung on a bit too long - thought he was the indispensable man, got his staff to try to brazen it out, but ultimately it couldn't be sustained. Unlike MAGAts, we are not a cult of personality, but a party of ideas and principles, so we are able to adjust, even on a dime. And so, we were faced with an emergency situation. But if you, and this is a big stretch, could honestly, and let me again stress the word honestly, look at the trends of the race, you'd have to admit we have every reason to be pleased as punch at how its all turning out.
And that's what's botherin' ya - idn't it ? :)
Your argument seems to presume people unaffiliated with the Democratic party don’t vote in general elections.
shareHow so ? My argument, as I see it, presumes that party business is conducted by the party, and by their own processes, admittedly in this case exceptional (since Biden & Co tried to brazen out his decline and, in the end, were exposed), whereupon the party coalesced on the Vice President, without a scintilla of intra-party dissent I've been able to discern, given 90 days or so to get the house in order for the election. The polls seem to indicate a significant vote of confidence by the general public in the Democratic Party's candidate adjustment, including the selection of Gov. Walz
And so, I read the OP as a bit of concern-trolling bushwah by a MAGAt who supports a felonious cretin, he who explicitly and illegally (& currently charged with) attempting to overturn the will of the voters, not to mention inciting a riot at the US Capitol, in the LAST election. Didn't you ?
Finally, those not affiliated with one of the parties DO, in fact, have the opportunity to vote on the nominated candidates, but took no part, have no say, in how they were selected.
P.S. Speaker Emerita Pelosi did the nation heroic service wedging old Joe off the ticket. Her finest hour.
Because the general election is not a partisan affair. You’re telling those of us who are not Democrats to “butt-out” about how Harris became one of the final two candidates we have to chose in the ultimate election. In the primaries, Republican voters benefited from competition, getting long looks at Trump, Nikki Haley, Ron DeSantis and Vivek Ramaswamy. For those of us non-partisans who want a Trump alternative in the general election however, we got Kamala Harris who was anointed by five politicians, George Clooney, and Beyoncé in a process seen by none and accomplished with zero voter input or opportunity to evaluate.
shareI'm saying you can have any opinion you like about it, but unless you voted in the Democratic primary or are otherwise directly involved, you CHOSE not to participate. So your opinion is, other than your vote in the general, idle. Its just a kibbitz. You 'butted' yourself out.
The notion that she was anointed is just bullshit. Every primary voter voted for her, in person, to succeed Biden in the not-at-all unlikely event he'd croak during his next term of office. So, she DID in fact, get a direct vote in the primary. As it turned out, the party decided EN MASSE to coalesce around her, in the circumstances which Biden more or less imposed upon us all.
tldr; Your narrative is phony.
The 2024 Joe Biden / Kamala Harris ticket only emerged after an historically undemocratic process: Florida canceled a primary for them, North Carolina, Massachusetts, Tennessee, and Wisconsin submitted them as the only ticket on the primary ballots; and New Hampshire chose delegates through a “nominating event” that didn’t include voters. The DNC then declared the party “not something separate” from the Biden campaign and refused to schedule debates with Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., Dean Phillips, or Marianne Williamson. Harris was no more vetted by primary voters as a VP candidate than she has been as the anointed presidential candidate.
As I have said in our past debate on this subject, a genuine American democratic procedure would have involved a competitive primary through which Democratic voters could discover Biden’s incapacity early enough for them to have a say in choosing a fitter candidate. Instead, the public was only given the truth a few weeks ago, by which time only internal party elites were positioned to decide the nominee. That’s a failure of democracy unless you believe a U.S. presidential candidate should be the nominee without voter input.
The 2020 Republican primaries for Trump were much the same, what's your point? They basically all folded for Trump and waved him through.
shareMy point is manifest because I wrote it without equivocating. And, the Republican primaries for this election produced real competition with genuine debates for evaluating Trump, Nikki Haley, Ron DeSantis, Ramaswamy and others. I know from those debates that I do not want to vote for Trump. The process that gave me Harris as the alternative allowed for zero competition and zero voter input to decide if she is competent and qualified for the Presidency. This process with Harris has no precedent that I can think of and certainly has no analogy with the 2020 primary election of Trump
shareThe Republican primaries in 2024 were more competitive was because there was no sitting Republican President. But there was a sitting Democrat president, so the primaries of 2024 were effectively waved through just like they were for Trump in 2020.
>I know from those debates that I do not want to vote for Trump. The process that gave me Harris as the alternative allowed for zero competition and zero voter input to decide if she is competent and qualified for the Presidency.
The perils of a shitty two-party system.
Again, who ran against Trump in 2020 ? Who runs against incumbent presidents ? You're just making up this shit as you go along.
I'm not, btw, dodging the irresponsibility of either Biden or his people, or anyone who knew him up close, not publicly ringing the alarm bell on his infirmity earlier. But, most people perhaps yourself excepted, understand the realites, the vagaries, of power.
Biden handed us lemons, we made lemonade, and you're being a phony sourpuss about it. :) Which is fine with me, complain till the cows come home & vote for the creepy rapey imbecilic felon. We'll vote for the normies. It's more-or-less all good, or we certainly hope it will be, confidence is rising.
"WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH it was a coup! Waaaaah I want the decrepit old man to stay in the race because I think Trump had a chance of beating him this time whereas even a braindead dipshit like me can see he has no chance of beating Kamala/Walz waaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh i need my safe space waaaaahhhh i need more copium =("
We Democrats voted for Biden/Harris knowing full well that if anything ever happened to Biden, Harris would be next in line. Well, something happened to him. Old motherfucker aged out. He wasn't forced out. He was "forced" to accept the truth about himself and his chances of winning the election as a dottering old man. Bottom line is he did accept it and ultimately it was his decision to step aside.
Bullshit. He was forced out by his own party. You voted for Biden in the primaries. Now that decision has been made for you. Stop being a naive fool, making excuses for them.
share"WAAAAAHHHHHHH why won't you just agree with my MAGA bullshit talking points?! I want Trump to win so bad! WAAAAAAHHHH!"
I didn't vote for Biden in the primary, I voted for Bernie. Idiot.
Go huff the rest of your copium and go to bed, snowflake.
And nobody voted for Harris.
shareWhen you vote for President you are also voting for whoever they chose as their VP running mate. The 81 million people who voted for Biden were also voting that Harris would take his place if anything ever happened to during his term. Granted, nothing "happened" to Biden other than he decided not to run for a second term and endorsed Harris to become the nominee. At a glance it's obvious the vast majority of the Democratic party is very happy with this. There will always be a few contrarian nay-sayers. For a while we called them Bernie Busters.
I am not at all surprised that you are almost completely 100% ignorant of how the American political system works.
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Where in the Constitution does it say that Biden couldn't drop out of a presidential election and then Harris being nominated in his place? Now your frightened because you know Harris will beat Trump soundly in November. Just like when Biden destroyed Trump in 2020.
You're just upset because the Orange Shitgibbon is collapsing right before your eyes. Have you seen Trump lately? He's not doing well. Are you really so stupid that you can't recognize Trump's cognitive decline?
Upset? Kameltoe is a sacrificial lamb, they know they can't win.
I only point this out because it's a fine example of the hypocrisy of the left. "Saving democracy" constantly parroted by the would-be fascists.
Biden confirms he was pushed out of the race by top Democrats who apparently staged a coup on him.
https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1822628391360835825
To be fair, we actually haven't had a govt. practicing "democracy" or acting as a constitutional republic since the 1930s. It's mostly been an oligarchy of powerful political families and corporate dynasties controlling everything, while putting on a fake show of the "democratic process." Plus, the Uniparty loves speaking in code.
If you replace the word "democracy" with "our agenda," then the phrase makes more sense. So what the traitorous RINOs and Democraps are really saying is, "We have to stop Trump to save our agenda," which would include destroying America, turning it into a socialist backwater, and letting a single world govt. based in Europe dictate everything to everyone. The only reason the WEF hasn't taken over the world so far is because America stands in the way.
The whole thing is simply very Orwellian and not for the good. My impression thus far is the Democrats love Trump's ideas and so much, Harris is willing to steal them and make them her own which is why she's now known simply as "Magala Harris" and like I said, the Left loves Trump's ideas, Harris loves Trump's ideas and they want HER as President with Trump's ideas, just not Trump as President.. How about that?? That sound about right?? 🤔
shareThat's what it looks like. She has no ideas of her own that aren't batshit crazy. They've been so brainwashed into hating Trump, they really don't care who it is they're voting for.
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