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MAGA has no answer to Tim Walz


Very good and refreshing pick for VP. He is someone that MAGA will have a hard time attacking and he is also well liked. MAGA is in trouble, they don't really have a solid strategy anymore nor an answer to Harris/Walz.

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Let the lies begin.

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"Maga" is a slogan.

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MAGA is a movement that has stopped moving.

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They have no momentum right now.

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So far this is what I've seen for MAGA talking points r/ Waltz:

1. He let Minneapolis burn to ashes after George Floyd
2. He had a DUI from 30 yrs ago
3. He got out of the national guard to avoid being deployed to Iraq
4. Kamala picked him instead of Shapiro bc Dems hate Jews.

Got it...

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All of which are undoubtedly true.

The DWI isn't a big deal, nobody's perfect, but the other three are definitely relevant.

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Dem politicians with few exceptions are just as pro Israel as Republicans. Look at the votes not the rhetoric. They definitely don't hate Jews. Kamala's husband is Jewish, not that it would make s difference if he wasn't.

I don't know the details of the Guard claim. I know he served 24 yrs. In theory, if someone were to serve 24 yrs in the Guard I wouldn't begrudge them resigning. If they were morally against the war in which they might be asked to serve, I respect that decision. Especially if it was the bullshit Iraq/Afghanistan wars. I don't know if that's what happened in Walz case.

I've heard different things about Minneapolis like that Walz hesitated on sending in the national guard bc he valued lives over property damage. If that's the case then I respect that decision too.

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Fair enough. As with anything in politics, there are always a plethora of conflicting claims. Regarding the National Guard, the accusation leveled by at least one person in his unit is that only a couple weeks after being given orders to head to Iraq in the spring of 2005 Walz resigned his position, despite still having 2 years left on his obligation. On receiving those orders he had been given the conditional title of Command Sergeant Major, in anticipation of leading his National Guard Unit in Iraq. And then, despite never actually serving in that capacity prior to leaving the Guard, he promoted himself as having attained that rank while running for office. If true, that's pretty slimy and I would think that some of the vets here, you know who you are, would chafe at a vice-presidential candidate engaging in Stolen Valor.

Dem politicians are pro-Jew to the extent that it gains them constituents. The Chuck Schumers of the world may have stronger ties to international Jewry, but most politicians' affection for Israel is rooted in campaign contributions and AIPAC minders. It's very plausible that they floated Shapiro's name last week in an effort to gauge the reaction and that they determined at this particular time, the electoral calculus (particularly with Muslim-heavy states like Michigan and Minnesota in play) did not favor a candidate who had served with the IDF. In general, the Democrats are trending toward being and anti-Jew party.

As for letting the Twin Cities burn, his statements are a matter of record. He sympathized completely with the rob, mob, and burn ferals.

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Whereas JD Vance served heroically in Iraq as a [checks his bio] a "correspondent". He wrote about his proudest moment of that service as when he bravely handed out an eraser to a small child.

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I'm not voting for J.D. Vance, friend. Merely pointing out that there's a claim that Walz pussied out of even leaving these shores, but then sold himself as some sort of warrior.

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Ha ha! You were voting for the Putin/Couchfucking-Vance ticket no matter what.
Walz served for 24 years which was 24 more years than you did.

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LOL!

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Feel free to follow me into the voting booth and watch. It might remind you of those times you follow truckers into a rest stop stall, so try to keep your distance as I don't go that way.

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I wonder why I am not surprised to find out that you want to blow me in a voting booth.

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Took you an hour to come up with that witty riposte. You're getting better all the time, Fonzie.

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I was occupied, and i do not want to embarrass your mother, so I won't go into graphic detail. But I note that your witty comeback only took an hour, Potsy.

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It'll be interesting to see how the National Guard issue messaging plays out. Walz will have to address it at some point.

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Here's what I found so far.

Walz served 24 yrs in the Guard (1981-2005)

In 2005:
February: Walz filed to run for Congress
May: Walz retired from the Guard
July: Walz ordered to deploy

He was already retired so the order was sent in error.

While in the the Guard Walz achieved the rank of Command Sergeant Major but did not retire at that rank bc there was additional coursework he needed to do. So it's not Stolen Valor.

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See, that's where there are discrepancies. Stories I've read claim that his Guard unit received a warning in early 2005, that they would be deployed to Iraq, Walz was promoted in amticipation of that deployment on April 1, but then retired on May 16.

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/past-criticisms-vp-nominee-tim-walzs-retirement-military-resurface?utm_source=mux&utm_medium=social-media&utm_campaign=social-media-autopost

This should be quite easy to clear up, as all these dates will be a matter of record.

Others are noting that Walz has made the claim "We shouldn't allow weapons that I used in war to be on America's streets," when in fact he never was involved in combat.

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#4 is so fucked up. I don't know much about Josh Shapiro but he didn't get picked for being Jewish to appease the terrorist loving Pro Palestine wing of the Democratic Party. The party of tolerance.

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That's bullshit. Democrats are in bed with Israel just as much as Republicans. Being pro Palestine does not equal pro terrorist. Anyone actually supporting terrorists like Hamas are a very small & loud group of naive idiots.

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As stated above, behind the scenes they're certainly as beholden to Israel as the Republicans, but publicly they sense which way the winds are blowing among their core base of voters and will henceforth promote candidates who reflect a more Moslem-adjacent image.

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Was Minneapolis burned to ashes?

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They must be insanely good at recovery then, because I flew there last year and it looked fine!

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JD Couchfucker Vance may have covered that in "Couchfucker Elegy."

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LOL!

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Now you're using your sock to reply to your own posts? Oof, that's really scraping the bottom of the barrel, don't you think?

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LOL!

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Yeah, my city was supposedly "burned to the ground", also, but was apparently rebuilt overnight.

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Burned to ashes? No. "Fiery but mostly peaceful protests"? Yes.

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No but that's what MAGA & Republican strategists are saying.

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Is that why Walz asked the federal government for $500million, because nothing happened?

You people will vote for a governor who allowed and even encouraged lawlessness with untold destroyed businesses, injuries, deaths and destroyed lives and have the balls to call us a cult???

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You also forgot, putting Tampons in Boy's restrooms.. Fucking pedophile is what this guy Walz is

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Both are Socialist and the MSM have been very critical of this woman's choice when she should've went with Josh Shapiro to shore up Pennsylvania and now, she's basically blew it. America cannot possibly be this stupid to elect a Socialist as President and if you've learn absolutely fucking nothing from Venezuela doing this?? Then you're a lost cause

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The loudest trolls here are 70 year old boomers that are on their way out. If they have children/grandchildren and support all this insanity, then I have no words.

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"The loudest trolls here are 70 year old boomers"

Wow. I didn't know you were that old. You always come off as a spoiled millennial. I guess a book should not be judged by its cover.

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Yeah I'm a millennial and I know hardly any 70 yo's that are as progressive as my generation. Idk what 70's yo BlacK is talking about.

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"I have no words"

"LMAO!" You "literally" have no words?

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And only Gen Z & Millennials feel men can give birth and get pregnant and you don't call this insanity?? For that, I have no words for you.. Harris shot herself in the foot and she loses soundly in November

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Buttigieg would have been shooting herself in the foot (that ticket would be too "woke"). Walz seems to be pretty energizing, charismatic & liked.

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Walz is also very woke since that's why Harris chose him, aside from being Antisemitic

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Woke & antisemitic don't mix.

I support the rights & inclusivity of minorities & LGBTQ+ people!

What's that you say? This trans woman is Jewish? Well f#+k her rights then.

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I would guess you want yo do away with social security and Medicare and farm subsidies and the dept. of education and the EPA and VA and SNAP (food for hungry children) what else needs to go to appease your monstrous soul?

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You survived 4 years with Trump and your social security is still intact 8 years later and if you're going to lose your social security, it'll be from sending hundreds of BILLIONS of dollars to Ukraine with no end in sight.. Again, Harris fucked up and picked the wrong VP and as a result, she loses soundly now in November

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Why don't you go to redstate where the inmates probably won't mind your stupid lies. You are ignored.

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This is all you have when you don't have a leg to stand on. Trump wins this in November Lib so get used to it and fuck you, go ahead and put me on ignore because you're definitely not hurting me 😂

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The pandering to the Muslims begins...

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I never heard of him before. Harris is on top of the ticket. FOcusing on her and her policies seem like a good strategy.

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Are you an official member of Couchfuckers For Vance?

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You take marching orders well.

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Tim Walz let his state burn down and did nothing to help while he vouched for the leftist lies that police killed Floyd. Floyd died of an overdose straight and clear. He's a pure evil psychopath.

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Did your mentally retarded father tell you that also?

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Shut up.

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So it was, in fact, from your mentally retarded father where you got that information from?

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Minnesota burned down??,

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