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Democrats flipped the script


The day after the end of the quadrennial 'take America back to its lily white past and generally moan at everyone who isn't totally on board' GOP lollapalooza.

Is there a Republican among you who is man/woman enough to admit this race just became yours to win instead of yours to lose ?

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Flipped the script? This has been the democrats Script/scripture since Obama ran in 2008. Are you seriously going to run on the first black president again?

And holy shit was Obama a wayyyyyy better candidate than Kamala.

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It remains to be seen if she'll be able can keep up any kind of momentum. Hillary had good poll numbers too and she lost and in my opinion, Kamala is a much worse candidate than Hillary.

We'll see what kind of turnout she gets at rallies. She might need to win every battleground state to win this election and that's no easy task.

We also have to consider that polls can be manipulated to show just about anything you want it to show. Right now, BLM is not too excited about her instant appointment by the DNC. I stand beside myself and am quite fascinated at the fact that I actually agree with BLM on something. lol...

She is definitely going to need all the black votes she can get. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/black-lives-matter-denounces-democrats-for-anointing-kamala-harris/ar-BB1qxfdg?ocid=BingNewsSerp

Why do the Democrat elites and the media like KH so much? It's kind of bizarre really... she didn't do that well in the 2020 primaries and her approval rating has been in the gutter for the last year or so.

Either way, it makes for a rather interesting election season to say the least.

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Good response, and valid question. I think KH has, in the past four years and particularly since the Roe repeal, been out on the stump, making political connections and learning her speaking chops. It isn't just the MSM - Harris' entry just brought in a staggering amount of cash, many from small donations. Also, the enthusiasm is partly a great amount of relief at getting out from under a doomed candidate.

She's been out there swinging for the last week, and hasn't put a foot wrong yet. Meanwhile, JD Vance is proving to be the biggest loser, scorning large swaths of the voting population and coming across like an overlord from the handmaiden's tale - there is also a Democratic VP candidate - keep an eye on MN Governor Walz, he's making a strong bid for the job.

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Seems like back in 2020 the media was still all over her. For whatever reason, they like her a lot.

Either way, I don't think this is just a case of KH honing her skills. Her polls numbers weren't that good just last year. I guess they want to see a woman president. That's the only thing I can come up with.

And JD sounding like an overlord? Hmmm.. got any examples of it? Post a link...

And yeah, he said 'cat-lady' 3 years ago, I don't think that will lose any votes when you consider all the crap Trump has said.

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He also said that childless people should have less political input/power than those with children. It wasn't simply a 'catty' remark, its an extremely harsh reductive discriminatory political vision he gives air to.

"These children are the future of this country and yet the parents who have them actually have no advantage in our democratic process," Vance said. "They have a smaller voice in some ways — in very many cases — than the people who don't have any children at all. The children who come from these families have no real representative in our democracy. Why don't we change that?"

tbh, I think he's going to get dumped.

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I reviewed some of his comments, honestly, I am not all that impressed with my first impressions of JD Vance.

And his comment on those with kids having more power doesn't even make any sense. Everyone gets one vote, whether you have kids or not. Are people with kids supposed to get more than one vote or something?

What JD said is probably a dumb comment to make but I've heard him say things about the family unit that I do somewhat agree with. But then he said Democrats are "anti-family". YIKES!! That's going to be a tough sell come November. Surely, he won't be running on the notion that Dems are anti-family?? lol

Trump might as well appoint JD as the "Family Czar" of his administration. :)

That would be hilarious...

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I'd bet long money JD Vance is off the ticket inside of a week. He's a disaster.

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“She might need to win every battleground state to win this election and that's no easy task.”

This is patently false. Democrats have increasingly become open with many more permutations of a road to victory than MAGA Republicans. Please remember that in 2000 and 2004, the election victories for George W. Bush both came down to a single state each, Florida, then Ohio. Yet, Trump in 2020 had to mount challenges to the outcome in half a dozen states, despite winning Ohio and Florida. Why? Because, even if Biden’s victory was fraudulently overturned in Georgia, or Arizona, or Michigan, as Trump team tried to do, he still would’ve won. 2020 was a landslide in Democrats favor by all metrics, and Georgia even elected two D senators since in an off-year election.

Also, Rs have not won, or even TRIED to win a popular vote victory since 2004. Twenty years of failure. This puts them in a constant desperate condition of weakness where they have little leeway in where they can afford to lack enthusiasm amongst their voters. High voter turnout is their achilles’ heel, so their platform must include voter suppression and subterfuge.

The eastern seaboard, where not entirely solid blue already, has become battleground swing states in play. Harris has a chance to add territory from all the original 13 colonies in her column.

The “Don’t Tread on Me” motto is alive and well, and they’ve had enough of Trump’s authoritarian posturing. These folks don't vote for white-collar criminal felons and out-of-touch Yale-educated venture capitalists as offered by the Trump/Vance ticket. Suburban voters are totally put off by their nonsense.

If Harris’ VP pick like Kelly from Arizona, or Cooper from N. Carolina help to add their respective states to her column, then it’s all over for MAGA deplorables.

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YYZ,

I might agree with some if your points if Harris was polling better. Yes, she has made some progress in the polls but in all honesty, I just don't think Harris is all that well-liked among voters. She's extremely left wing and just not a very savvy politician in my view. Say what you want about Trump but you can't deny, he has some political chops.

In fact, I would say Harris is a worse candidate than Hillary and Hillary couldn't beat Trump.

In addition to this, a lot of people view Trump's legal problems as just the left trying to take out their political opponent using the courts which most are not in favor of. It's viewed as a "sham-case" to get Trump, it's considered the new "Russia, Russia, Russia" scam.

We'll see how it plays out over the next month but I don't see any real path to victory for Harris. I wouldn't even be that surprised if they replaced her by the end of August.

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I don't think polling is as accurate as it once used to be. In this era that has become so divisive since Trump, folks simply don't like to answer these questions any longer about their preferred candidates. That doesn't mean they are not going to come out in droves to vote for Kamala Harris, though. This is a constituency that has an extreme thrist for the notion of turning the page away from the past. We saw it with Hillary Clinton, and we saw it more recently with Trump and now Biden. By the time Kamala Harris has her running mate pick in the newscycle, her glorious convention less than a month away which is going to be quite optimistic (and of high production value), and then prosecutorial debates against convicted felon, DJT, she will be embraced by many, young and old, and people might even be more vocal about this support outside of the ballot booth.

In addition, conservative voters who do like to maintain their continuity with the past (and actually want to answer survey questions) are much more likely to be outspoken about their love of Trump, the cult icon. What does this mean? It means the polls need to be taken with a grain of salt. As a Democrat, I'm ecstatic about Harris being seen as the underdog. It will only help her get-out-the-vote effort in the end.

MAGA Republicans are likely to take issue with what I said above about Trump causing the division, and I'm old enough to remember how bitter and violent they were about Barack Obama's two terms. It's true. But is it right?! Was President Obama a divisive figure, or was he actually some imaginary boogeyman that they conjured up but never really got to know? They don't pay attention. The man was immaculate, eloquent, inspirational. He was family and community-oriented, and nearly scandal-free. His cabinet was diverse on both a personal and ideological level which indicates that he valued alternative opinions to his own. There was even a book on it called Team of Rivals!

Ask yourself this, all. How is it possible that President Obama could be divisive enough that a candidate would come along and rise to prominence by challenging Obama's citizenship and origin of birth? Nobody in 2012 or 2016 could possibly say that they were worse off than they were in 2008 in the midst of the Global Financial Crisis and housing market collapse. Why the hate!? For the most rabid of MAGA deplorables, it definitely had something to do with race. That's really all there is to it, and that's despicable. This was the genesis of identity politics. Most Democrats, except the very young and confused nowadays, are more than willing to judge a person by the content of their character and not the color of their skin, but the Right are going to project their biases onto their opponents.

I don't believe most voters are racist—not even those on the Trump team. I'm going to go out on a limb and say there was something else to it as well. It's quite sad. The backlash to Trump after Obama was because when highly educated, distinguished statesmen with great analytical skill and oratory chops, as Obama had, are leaders, dumb folks who don't understand them think they're being talked down to... or otherwise, receive it as effeminite and weak as a defense mechanism. He and many prominent Democrats bear no ill will, and they are certainly confident, assertive and tough, but they are simply using their intellect in the way that makes sense to them in positions of such responsibility.

Trump does indeed have "political chops" but something is lost when his method of success as a candidate (dumbing it down) is consistently applied to governing strategy, and it's had a detrimential effect on an engaged citizenry as well.

Take this for example. I can't claim credit for it. Someone on Youtube analyzed Trump's verbiage at recent rallies and the NABJ conference.

bad/badly 10 times
destroying 8 times
fight/fought 7 times
worst 7 times
horrible 6 times
rude 4 times
shooting/shot 4 times
death 4 times
attack 4 times
invading/invasion 4 times
nasty 3 times
hostile 3 times
terrible 3 times
wrong 3 times
disaster 3 times
illegal 3 times
didn’t look good to me 3 times
didn't like it 2 times
disgrace 2 times

He also used the words below at least once:
killing
dangerous
evil
troubled
mess
fake news
false
devastating
crashed
execute
viciously
vengeance
hatred

Win elections or no, this is the language trending towards Idiocracy as seen in the funny film from 2006 by Mike Judge. This is where the damage is done on the American psyche. Bernie Sanders was right when he said this bombastic talk is unnecessary. "Politics and government is SUPPOSED to be boring."

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Like I said, earlier, I was watching Bill O'Reilly on his Podcast and generally do on a regular basis and I couldn't help but to wonder this out of this world Honeymoon the MSM is having over Kamala Harris and so much, you'd a thought she won this election already and the worst of it is, is no matter how shitty a Politician she is, whether it's being appointed "Border Czar" and not show up one time or how she's magically out of nowhere neck in neck with him in the Polls, the MSM will spin this her way and in the end, YES, My vote will always be for Trump, but my gut instinct tells me the media sways it her way.. We'll see?? I certainly hope I'm dead wrong on this?? 🤔 This Election I feel is no longer about "Democracy" but about "Race, Gender & Self Entitlement and being able to say we elected the 1st Female Black Indian, even if meant using "Democracy" to push Biden out which is basically what they did and installed Harris whether anyone likes it or not

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OK, but don't you see how that take will strike many (including me) as, if not explicitly racist, the rough equivalent ?

Compare Harris' and Vance's background - unless you think being a tech investment banker, writing a hillbilly book and 19 months in the senate trumps being a prosecutor, twice-elected CA AG, Senator & VP, where in the fuck do any of these folks get off calling her DEI, 'garbage', a 'bum' ? Put yourself in her or any person of color's shoes, how would your react ON THE MERITS when you hear that sort of talk ? If that's what the MAGA folks stick with, they're going to lose big, policy aside.

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And you forgot, Vance served in the Marine Corp and when you judge people by groups and not individually, that is Racist like the Democrats are

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Oh, jeeze, I'm sorry I forgot that. The thing is, WE aren't calling him & Trump DEI/garbage/bums. THEY are.

I am, btw, also a Marine vet.

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"his race just became yours to win instead of yours to lose ?"

What do you mean by this? It seems like baiting for one side or another, but what you're attempting to get across here isn't clear whatsoever.



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Its pretty simple. Biden was on a clear track to lose, and the very instant Harris took over, the polls tightened up to about even. That is clearly a trend toward the Democrats, away from the MAGA party.

All I'm really getting at is this race just turned on a dime.

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Biden was a on clear track to lose because he had dementia and couldn't put a sentence together, and i don't even mean that in some rep v dem way, it was a complete nightmare and i can't believe they ran him.

But you really are kidding yourself if you think kamala is some great candidate. i didn't like obama, i mock him, but i'd be really worried if someone like that was the nominee, because there was an energy to it all, it was new, people got caught up in it, as much as i dislike barry, he spoke well and people really bought into it.

But kamala is an embarrassment, it's almost "well she's VP so mmm so who else? it'll be her right?"

she didn't storm through primaries. shes said dumb nonsense and then was hidden away by her handlers for 4 years...

I just don't see it, i don't believe your this excited like you claim. i really dont!

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I do believe you'd cheer a dicator on as he ransacked the government, turned it into his mafia. I really do.

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so nothing to do with the topic then?

embarrassing.

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I think KH is proving to be a fine candidate. The polling & funding support that. You don't like her policies, the color of her skin, don't vote for her. Mock her. That's your privilege, but if you think that cuts ice in the public forum, maybe think again. It puts a lot of people off.

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i'd knock on doors if thomas sowell a black man said he'd run for president.

I like allen west, i also like ben carson.

but one week after kamala says she's running and you're already going hardcore with the race and identity politics.

but somethings never change, the democrats always were the party of slavery.

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You condescend to black folks who toe your line, but have nothing but contempt for those who hold a different, challenging, view. You mock them. You want black folks to be enslaved to your point of view.

That's how it looks from here. What was there about Obama's life/career that deserved mocking ?

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"if you don't know who to vote for, you aint black"

imagine having so few ideas and positions that politics has just become calling people isms and ists.

very depressing.

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It actually hasn't. This is media cope.

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I too have no idea what his OP is about.

Im guessing there was some kind of event , the name of which he has substituted for
" 'take America back to its lily white past and generally moan at everyone who isn't totally on board'"

there too many posts where people swap in shit like that over the actual information and nobody knows what its about half the time , which results in several crossed wires replies as people guess what the original intention was.

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It make no sense, except for a hint of anti-white racism. Oh, and anti-Americanism. Implying very strongly that both "white" and "America's past" are negative things.

Tthat is what the left is today.

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No, Kamala is terrible and no one watches TV anymore.... they binge stream TV shows. The media are going to Rah Rah for Team Blue no matter Who. Nothing has changed.

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this race just became yours to win instead of yours to lose ?


https://youtu.be/Lpf9e9fGUYs?si=qJNJqkWsiOE5c5qj

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I can't imagine being gullible enough to believe all the democrat/msm lies.

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Only 2 people think can kamala can win.

Those who aren't sober and those will plan to steal the election

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Well then, whatever happens, you have nice stories to tell yourself :)

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