TVFan is an anti-american authoritarian who rejects the first amendment and who wants to persecute LGBT people - Politics Discussion

[–] Corbell (11005) a year ago

Odd. I see nothing in your post supporting your claim that tvfan wants a similar law here...

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[–] Skavau (15993) a year ago

Sure. He doesn't come right out and openly say it. So on what grounds does he support it for Russia then? Why would he support it there, but not in the USA?

Why doesn't he just affirm his support for the US first amendment if he really doesn't support it for the USA?

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[–] Corbell (11005) a year ago

I like the way that you admit that you can't directly support your claim, and then immediately pivot to try to make it MY job to disprove your claim.

Then, you build on that, to make it TVFAN's job to disprove your claim.

You are, supercool like that.

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[–] Skavau (15993) a year ago

>I like the way that you admit that you can't directly support your claim, and then immediately pivot to try to make it MY job to disprove your claim.

I mean, that's exactly how many of you (especially TVfan) operates as a rule. He makes claims everywhere across the forum and refuses to back any claims up, demanding anyone who disagrees with him or challenges him just "google".

But I didn't do that. My question was rhetorical. If TVfan wants to remove this association from him that I have made (due to his words), he's welcome to at any moment, express support for LGBT civil liberties in the USA. He has not done this.

>Then, you build on that, to make it TVFAN's job to disprove your claim.

When someone openly praises and supports Russia for their ban on LGBT culture and association in public life, it stands to reason they might well want it elsewhere.

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[–] Corbell (11005) a year ago

You don't think that different societies and culutures might not want or enjoy different laws?

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[–] Skavau (15993) a year ago

I am not talking about those societies and cultures. I am talking about TVfans view specifically. I also regard the way in which he phrased his initial support for Russias laws as suggestive that he thinks similar laws should be passed in the USA. He has spoken repeatedly as if "LGBT" are a global problem.

He has had many, many occasions to reject this for the USA and he refuses to do so. If a leftist here endorsed repressive laws in the PRC, would you genuinely assume that they wouldn't want similar laws in the USA or elsewhere?

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[–] Corbell (11005) a year ago

Dude. YOu are talking about those socieites and cultures. YOu expressly stated that supporting a law in one place means that you must support it in another, as though there is no other possible...choice.

That is you implying strongly that you think that it is impossible to support different laws in different places for different people and cultures.

So, i'm asking you to clarify if that is your real intent. Because if it is, then I plan to ridicule you for that. Becuase it is clearly insane.

ANd if it is NOT, then the core of your argument falls apart completely. Because so far, that is ALL you have offered to support your claim.

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[–] Skavau (15993) a year ago

>Dude. YOu are talking about those socieites and cultures. YOu expressly stated that supporting a law in one place means that you must support it in another, as though there is no other possible...choice.

TVfan does not give cultural relativist vibes to me. He's a Christian fundamentalist.

It is possible to support different laws for different countries, but TVfan is not from anything I can tell, any kind of cultural relativist. And as I've said, the way he said it, the way he phrased it, implied to me very strongly that he would support similar laws coming into place in the USA.

Do you support the Russian "LGBT propaganda" ban?

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[–] Corbell (11005) a year ago

1. SO, Christians don't think that different places with different peoples can have different laws? OOOOHH, what what I do here. Err, no, I was going to try to do your pivot thing and make it your job to support that. BUT, it IS your job to support that. Oh, and good luck with that. lol.

2. From what I saw, it seemed to be aimed a fair bit at the international movement and ngo, and as they have been complete and total assholes everywhere and everywhen they go, I have no real issue with it. FUCK THE NGOS. Especially in a country that is at war.

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[–] Skavau (15993) a year ago

1. Not someone as fanatical as TVfan, no. I don't believe he thinks like that at all.

2. No, it's not. Go do some basic fucking research.

https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-police-raid-gay-clubs-saunas-moscow-st-petersburg/32710880.html

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/12/01/russian-tv-channel-fined-over-alleged-lgbt-video-clip-a83295

https://globalvoices.org/2023/04/12/history-of-love-in-the-country-of-hatred-influencers-detained-in-russia-for-lgbtq-propaganda/

https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2023/08/14/russian-trans-blogger-fined-for-lgbt-propaganda-and-army-discreditation-en-news

It's a total ban on any pro-LGBT or even neutral LGBT content in public life.

>I have no real issue with it. FUCK THE NGOS. Especially in a country that is at war.

A war that they started?

You think people's free speech rights should be taken away from them if you determine them to be "assholes"?

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[–] Corbell (11005) a year ago

I think that allying with hostile NGOs, during a time of war, is somewhat treasonous.

That Russia started the war, is irrelevant to this discussion.

So.... what is your point? Do you disagree wtih any of that, and if so how?

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[–] Skavau (15993) a year ago

>I think that allying with hostile NGOs, during a time of war, is somewhat treasonous.

https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-dvorkin-lgbt-activist-fined-gay-propaganda/32395082.html

This guy was "treasonous" was he?

>So.... what is your point? Do you disagree wtih any of that, and if so how?

When the USA attacked Iraq, and Afghanistan - the USA did not arrest people opposing those wars. So yes, I do disagree with the idea that a Russian protesting the war in Ukraine is somehow "treasonous". Not that Russias LGBT ban has ANYTHING to do with this. And who are these "hostile NGOs" that you think people are aligning with in Russia?

And, of course, you didn't answer me:

You think people's free speech rights should be taken away from them if you determine them to be "assholes"?

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[–] Corbell (11005) a year ago

Even in America, if you offer "aid and comfort" to an enemy, during a war, you risk legal action being taken against you.

Due to the democrats being anti-American pieces of shit, we have gotten very soft on this, and let a lot of people get away with treasonous actions.

But, the fact remains. You side with the enemy during a war, it is normal and healthy for a nation to notice and do shit about it.

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[–] Skavau (15993) a year ago

>Even in America, if you offer "aid and comfort" to an enemy, during a war, you risk legal action being taken against you.

And who is doing that? Russia regards just speaking against the "special military operation" as treasonous. The better comparison would be people who openly protested against the Iraq War. Why weren't they arrested?

>Due to the democrats being anti-American pieces of shit, we have gotten very soft on this, and let a lot of people get away with treasonous actions.

So what are you saying then? Who, right now is currently offering "aid and comfort" to enemies? Are you proposing that people who protested the Iraq and Afghanistan wars should have been arrested?

And again, you didn't answer.

https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-dvorkin-lgbt-activist-fined-gay-propaganda/32395082.html

This guy was "treasonous" was he? What does this have to do with the Ukrainian war? Russias LGBT ban has NOTHING to do with this. And who are these "hostile NGOs" that you think people are aligning with in Russia?

And: You think people's free speech rights should be taken away from them if you determine them to be "assholes"?

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[–] Corbell (11005) a year ago

1. That the russian government goes further than that, is irrelevant to this discussion.

2. I was thinking of hte Fort Hood shooter. He was clearly a treasonous piece of shit, but for reasons of diversity and inclusion and just the normaliztion of being an anti-American piece of shit caused by dems, he was allowed to roam free, until he actually committed mass murder.

3. I said what I said. Asking me if I "MEANT" other people doing other shit, is just you shit talking.

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[–] Skavau (15993) a year ago

1. No, it's not. Because you originally conflated the basis of this law as being about dealing with "hostile NGOs". And additionally, it is the part of WHAT TVFAN SUPPORTS.

Also, the thread itself is ABOUT THE RUSSIAN ATTACK ON LGBT liberties. You trailed it off into their concept of treason.

And additionally, the Russian definition of "treason" here involves just criticising the special military operation. That's it.

2. What did he do that was treasonous beforehand?

3. I actually no idea what this answer is in reference to. I'll re-ask the question you ignored in this thread: Should LGBT sections on dating sites be banned? Should LGBT bloggers and activists be arrested? Should pro-LGBT cultural and political websites be shut down? Should all gay clubs be banned? Should all TV shows, and films that depict LGBT people be banned? Should all gay romance novels be banned?

This is what the Russian law does. It does it FOR EVERYONE. It's expressedly banned from any and all expression in public life.

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[–] Corbell (11005) a year ago

1. I hear western leftards whining like fags, over russian fags, I smell international fags, ie hostile ngos.

2. Lots of anti-American talk AND actions as in trying to get soldiers in trouble for normal and correct military behavior. He should have, at least been kicked out of the military if not arrested for his actions well before anyone died.

3. Blah, blah, blah.

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[–] Skavau (15993) a year ago

1. Right.... Not sure what you're getting at here.

2. So "anti-american talk" should be considered treasonous? What did he say specifically? You can argue he should've been removed from the military, sure, but that's not the same as "treason".

3. This isn't an answer. I'll try again: Should LGBT sections on dating sites be banned? Should LGBT bloggers and activists be arrested? Should pro-LGBT cultural and political websites be shut down? Should all gay clubs be banned? Should all TV shows, and films that depict LGBT people be banned? Should all gay romance novels be banned?

This is what the Russian law does. It does it FOR EVERYONE. It's expressedly banned from any and all expression in public life.

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[–] Corbell (11005) a year ago

1. You asked my opinion on the matter.

2. Soldiers in the military are expected to be loyal to the nation, and obey and follow order in the pursuit of national policy. He was clearly NOT prepared to do this and he clearly was NOT doing that, even before he committed mass murder. When he tried to fuck over soliders for just being good soldiers, he should have been arrested for his harmful actions.

3. I expressed my views on the law. If I had additional positions on internal russian social policy, I would have already expressed them.

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[–] Skavau (15993) a year ago

1. So you think a western leftist "whining about Russia" is inherently a "hostile NGO"?

2. So if he wasn't in the military, he could be as "anti-american" as he likes?

3. You didn't seem to understand what the law actually entailed, completely misunderstanding it as something against foreign NGOs. This is not the case, and there are actually two separate laws on this. Both of which combine to effectively ban any and all LGBT expression in public life.

Should LGBT sections on dating sites be banned? Should LGBT bloggers and activists be arrested? Should pro-LGBT cultural and political websites be shut down? Should all gay clubs be banned? Should all TV shows, and films that depict LGBT people be banned? Should all gay romance novels be banned?

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[–] Corbell (11005) a year ago

1. No.

2. Up to the point of actually giving aid and comfort to the enemy. Granted i will judge him as an anti-American piece of shit and treat him accordingly.

3. Well, you leftards lie so much, i certainly don't give any credibility to your assertions. And I don't really care much about russia. So.....

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[–] Skavau (15993) a year ago

1. Russia regards literally any Russian who states opposition to the SMO as "treasonous" and arrests them. Do you want a comparable law in the USA?

2. Okay. You speak about people doing that sort of thing right now in the USA, but they're not punished for it. Do you have any examples of this?

3. I literally gave you multiple links on this. I gave you links about it in the other thread too. This is public knowledge. So now that you know that the Russian law outright bans any and all LGBT expression in public life - do you support this?

Should LGBT sections on dating sites be banned? Should LGBT bloggers and activists be arrested? Should pro-LGBT cultural and political websites be shut down? Should all gay clubs be banned? Should all TV shows, and films that depict LGBT people be banned? Should all gay romance novels be banned?

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[–] Corbell (11005) a year ago

1. Let's try a more reasonable example. Desantis recently proposed deporting all foreign students that advocate for genocide. I would support that, but expand it to remove citizenship from any first gen immigrant that is advocating genocide, and then also deport them.

That would be a good start.

2. Sure. The Fort Hood shooter. He was doing it, and was not punished until he escalated to mass murder. If he had limited himself to just being an active traitor within the system, there is no reason to believe he would not still be doing that shit.

3. Links to other leftards. NOt convincing at all.

4. In the real world, the issues are more like,

Should teenage girls be punished if they complain about being forced to undress with mentially ill men in their locker rooms?/

Because that is where the LGBT advocates have pushed their agenda to now. And I oppose it and you support it.

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[–] Skavau (15993) a year ago

1. This still wouldn't be like what happens in Russia, since it applies to all Russian citizens. And Russian citizens aren't arrested for calling for genocide. They're arrested for expressing literally any and all opposition to the Ukraine War.

2. *What* was he doing? Who was he funding?

3. They were links to news websites reporting on arrests in Russia due to the LGBT law. Are you still denying this scope of this Russian law?

4. I've never supported that. And the point here, in this thread is that Russia outright bans any and all LGBT cultural and social expression in public life, de facto criminalising being publicly LGBT. Is that something you support, yes or no?

Should LGBT sections on dating sites be banned? Should LGBT bloggers and activists be arrested? Should pro-LGBT cultural and political websites be shut down? Should all gay clubs be banned? Should all TV shows, and films that depict LGBT people be banned? Should all gay romance novels be banned?

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[–] Corbell (11005) a year ago

1. Not sure where you got this assumption that I was pushing for mirroring Russian law. Oh, wait, did you jsut pull that out of your ass?

2. He was trying to get soldiers arrested for normal miliary operations. He was a real piece of traitous shit. If I had been his commander and seen his record, I would have had him arrested. I assume though that upper command, pandering to the dem leftards, would have then punished me.

3. These news sites, do they consdier it normal for men to be in MMA fights with woman and beat them? Rhetorical question, i know that the answer is yes. So, not impressed.

4. Sure you do. You vote for politicans that support that movement and that support such policies. And girls and women are suffering because of it. And that is just what gets though the filter of the leftard controlled media.

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[–] Skavau (15993) a year ago

1. Your original point related to all of this was "I think that allying with hostile NGOs, during a time of war, is somewhat treasonous." when the Russian law either in regards to the "SMO" or LGBT issues has nothing to do with that. So I felt it necessary to point out that the USA has nothing equivalent.

2. Was he working for someone? Sounds like he should have just been kicked out from the military. Do you have any other examples of people in the USA funding or assisting USA's enemies but not being punished for it?

3. What does this remotely have to do with anything regarding Russias law? Does that somehow mean Russians law on this doesn't exist?

4. You know absolutely nothing of my voting record. I also don't even live in the USA, and you're still not answering my question:

Russia outright bans any and all LGBT cultural and social expression in public life, de facto criminalising being publicly LGBT. Is that something you support, yes or no?

Should LGBT sections on dating sites be banned? Should LGBT bloggers and activists be arrested? Should pro-LGBT cultural and political websites be shut down? Should all gay clubs be banned? Should all TV shows, and films that depict LGBT people be banned? Should all gay romance novels be banned?

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[–] Corbell (11005) a year ago

1. I'm pretty sure that there ARE laws against working with hostile foreigners against the nation, it is just that the leftiees have normalized anti-Americanism to the point we don't even try to fight it anymore.

2. Was he working for someone? Did you really ask that question? WTF are you talking about?

3. Just demonstrating how none of you lefties should have any credibility.

4. I know you are a lefty that supports the standard lefty narrative. Thus you are part of the status quo that is evil and vile.

5. Your questions are not real questions. You don't care about them. They are shit talk to support your lefty narrative.

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[–] Skavau (15993) a year ago

1. Right, so who is doing this then? Do you have any examples of an individual, a group, a company operating like this?

2. Yes I did. I don't know much about this case. I vaguely recall a military shooting. Was he working with a foreign government?

Do you have any other examples of people in the USA funding or assisting USA's enemies but not being punished for it?

3. So it has nothing to do with it, and doesn't undermine what is actually true about Russias LGBT laws.

4. What "lefty narrative" is this, specifically?

5. I do. I want an answer. What "lefty narrative" and I supposedly trying to support? I'll ask again:

Russia outright bans any and all LGBT cultural and social expression in public life, de facto criminalising being publicly LGBT. Is that something you support, yes or no?

Should LGBT sections on dating sites be banned? Should LGBT bloggers and activists be arrested? Should pro-LGBT cultural and political websites be shut down? Should all gay clubs be banned? Should all TV shows, and films that depict LGBT people be banned? Should all gay romance novels be banned?

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[–] Corbell (11005) a year ago

1. Every student group calling for genocide of the jews, for one small subset.

2. Nope. Just an anti-American piece of shit that was allowed to work in the US military until he got up teh nerve to committ mass murder.

3. It undermines the credibility of the sites you cited. I was clear that that was my point is bringing it up. Please don't play stupid to dodge clear points. This btw, is more of the dishonest behavior that makes you an asshole.

4. Fuck off troll boi.

5. No, you don't. I've seen this with leftards plenty. Hell, I've seen it with YOU before. You ask a question, and if we get intto it, seriously, you just drop it. Because the point is not the question, but simply the veiled accusation of bad behavior. GO FUCK YOUSELF.

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[–] Skavau (15993) a year ago

1. How do you know they're working with hostile foreign organisations specifically?

2. So this doesn't qualify. I asked you for examples of US-based groups working with hostile state actors.

3. So are you going to claim that they're lying, and that Russias law really isn't like this?

4. I'll ask again: What "lefty narrative" is this, specifically?

5. What "lefty narrative" and I supposedly trying to support? I'll ask again:

Russia outright bans any and all LGBT cultural and social expression in public life, de facto criminalising being publicly LGBT. Is that something you support, yes or no?

Should LGBT sections on dating sites be banned? Should LGBT bloggers and activists be arrested? Should pro-LGBT cultural and political websites be shut down? Should all gay clubs be banned? Should all TV shows, and films that depict LGBT people be banned? Should all gay romance novels be banned?

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[–] Corbell (11005) a year ago

1. You suport the genocide of a friendly and allied population, I don't care if you are formally working wiht the would be genociders, or just loving their genocide so much that you have to express your support. Either way, you are scum of the earth anti-American pieces of shit.

2. I gave you an individual. He was known and tolerated. Till his behavior made it impossible to ignore.

3. It is certainly possible.

4. Your pretense of not knowing, is too stupid for me to coddle. Just fuck off.

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[–] Skavau (15993) a year ago

1. When did I express any support for that?

2. So you have NO OTHER examples whastoever.

3. So despite the many examples https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-police-raid-gay-clubs-saunas-moscow-st-petersburg/32710880.html

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/12/01/russian-tv-channel-fined-over-alleged-lgbt-video-clip-a83295

https://globalvoices.org/2023/04/12/history-of-love-in-the-country-of-hatred-influencers-detained-in-russia-for-lgbtq-propaganda/

https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2023/08/14/russian-trans-blogger-fined-for-lgbt-propaganda-and-army-discreditation-en-news

From EU and Russian observer sites, it's all a lie?

4. What "lefty narrative" and I supposedly trying to support? I'll ask again:

Russia outright bans any and all LGBT cultural and social expression in public life, de facto criminalising being publicly LGBT. Is that something you support, yes or no?

Should LGBT sections on dating sites be banned? Should LGBT bloggers and activists be arrested? Should pro-LGBT cultural and political websites be shut down? Should all gay clubs be banned? Should all TV shows, and films that depict LGBT people be banned? Should all gay romance novels be banned?

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[–] Skavau (15993) a year ago

Should LGBT sections on dating sites be banned? Should LGBT bloggers and activists be arrested? Should pro-LGBT cultural and political websites be shut down? Should all gay clubs be banned? Should all TV shows, and films that depict LGBT people be banned? Should all gay romance novels be banned?

This is what the Russian law does. It does it FOR EVERYONE. It's expressedly banned from any and all expression in public life.

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[–] BKB (11330) a year ago

I'm Catholic and don't believe in LGBQT or anything involving Gay rights or Transgenders and proud of it, but if you choose to participate in this, then that's your business, not mine

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[–] Skavau (15993) a year ago

Right.

So you therefore reject Russias laws here, right?

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[–] BKB (11330) a year ago

I guess so, Yes

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[–] Skavau (15993) a year ago

Then that's fine. You're not a hypocrite here. TVfan openly endorses it, but he claims to support free speech.

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[–] tvfan (14561) a year ago

But you are a hypocrite that supports the confusion and grooming of children.

Russia is implementing laws to prevent people like you from endorsing child grooming by an alphabet cult which apparently you support.

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[–] Skavau (15993) a year ago

>But you are a hypocrite that supports the confusion and grooming of children.

No. I do not. I don't regard kids being made aware that LGBT people exist somehow "confuses" them. Your question is rooted in a false premise.

>Russia is implementing laws to prevent people like you from endorsing child grooming by an alphabet cult which apparently you support.

So you support those laws, do you? All of them?

And I don't support "child grooming". I am not bound by your crappy misunderstanding of grooming.

Fascist

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[–] Skavau (15993) a year ago

Also, to spin-off from the point of "NGOs".

In the UK, the entire pro-life movement is pretty much entirely funded from USA evangelical movements.

https://www.euronews.com/2023/11/21/dark-money-funding-retrograde-anti-abortion-activity-in-uk

Should the UK consider people taking money, or working with US pro-life advocacy groups as working with hostile NGOs?

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[–] Corbell (11005) a year ago

The US and the UK are allies. US conservatives does not harbor ill will towards teh UK, at least as far as I have seen.

IF, you could show that the specific cons in question, were hostile to the UK and wanted to see them fall, or lose a war, then, yes they would be hostile.

If the UK government decided that they wanted to shut down right leaning NGOs, causing strife in the uk, would you support it? What if they were Trump supporters?

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[–] Skavau (15993) a year ago

>The US and the UK are allies. US conservatives does not harbor ill will towards teh UK, at least as far as I have seen.

Abortion is a settled issue in the UK. Access towards it has 80-90% support.

Would it be justified if the UK government sanctioned those organisations and regarded any financial assistance and association with them as operating with hostile NGOs as promoting, what we see as a harmful social policy?

>IF, you could show that the specific cons in question, were hostile to the UK and wanted to see them fall, or lose a war, then, yes they would be hostile.

Okay. So what NGOs specifically want this in regards to Russia?

>If the UK government decided that they wanted to shut down right leaning NGOs, causing strife in the uk, would you support it? What if they were Trump supporters?

No, I would not. But I am asking YOU.

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[–] Corbell (11005) a year ago

1. "Settled issue" is irrelevant. Indeed, that is shit talk.

2. I would have no problem with the UK shutting down US political or religious organizations from operating in the UK. US citizens have no right to engage in political organizing in the UK.

3. i assume all of them. you leftards are really good at being lemmings, and sharing a brain, such as it is. And Putin, since he betrayed communism, has been very much hated by you leftards. And lord knows that ALL you leftards that pretend to be concerned about any supposedly oppressed group, deserve zero credibility and you are really about advancing the lefty agenda.

3. I don't believe you.

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[–] Skavau (15993) a year ago

1. How so? It is a settled issue here.

2. Okay then.

3. I don't know of a single organisation of any note that wants to "see Russia fail" (as in as a state). Many organisations wanted to see the US "fail" in Iraq and Afghanistan, by the way, should they have been banned in the USA?

4. You're not me, and get no say over what I think.

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[–] Corbell (11005) a year ago

1. It is irrelevant to the discussion.

3. Your "knowledge" and assertion is both irrelevant and not credible.

4. Those that actually gave aid and comfort to the enemy? Yes. Any that are fronts for hostile foreigners. Yes.

5. I don't need to "Be you" to see that your assertion is not credible.

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[–] Skavau (15993) a year ago

1. So is "NGOs" in general, but I thought I'd pick your brain on it.

3. You still haven't given an example of an organisation that wants Russia, as a state, to "fail". Many organisations wanted to see the US "fail" in Iraq and Afghanistan, by the way, should they have been banned in the USA?

4. And do you have any examples of such companies?

5. I decide what I think. Not you. I am explaining my position on foreign companies involving themselves with UK companies and groups.

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[–] Corbell (11005) a year ago

1. ?????

3. No foreign organization has a right to organize and advocate and work against US, inside our society.

4. "Companies"? Interesting moving of the goal posts.

5. And I don't believe your stated position is real.

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[–] Skavau (15993) a year ago

1. This thread isn't about NGOs, but you decided to divert the topic into it.

3. What does it mean to "work against the USA", exactly?

4. Companies, organisations, groups, whatever. Do you have an example of any of those that give "aid and comfort" to the enemy?

5. If you're accusing me of lying about everything, why are you even responding to me at all? I can equally just claim that you lie about everything.

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[–] Corbell (11005) a year ago

1. And?

3. Which word don't you understand? Are you pretending to not know that The United States of America is sometimes referred to as the USA? Or are you pretending to not know what the word "against" means? Perhaps it is the word "THE' that confused you?

Stop being a pussy. Just express your hard core leftard and anti-American position honestly and own it.

4. Not specifically. You lefties blur together a lot. So many of you, so hateful and anti-American pieces of shit.

5. Except I'm not the bad guy here, you are.

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[–] Skavau (15993) a year ago

1. Why did you do that? What does that have to do with the thread?

3. I know what the USA is. Do you have any example of any organisations, foreign or otherwise, who are supposedly "workig against the USA"?

4. So you have no evidence then. How am I anti-american? What is this "anti-american" position you seem to think I have?

5. Based on what? Your own hatred of others, so far as I can see. From my perspective you are an authoritarian, anti-american piece of shit.

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[–] Corbell (11005) a year ago

1. As I explained. I see western leftards whining like fags about russia fags, and I smell western ngos causing problems.

3. Sure. EVERY group that advocates for an open border.

4. Wait, are you denyign the existence of anti-American groups and organizations in America? LOL. fuck off loser.

5. Your history of shitty and dishonest behavior. Your support of vile and evil anti-Amercian pieces of shit. Your being a leftard. ect. You are the bad guy. You...should know it. You have made it painfully clear in many ways. It would be pathetic if you were THAT deluded.

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[–] Skavau (15993) a year ago

1. "Causing problems"? In what way? Do you just call individuals online who notice Russia is a repressive state as "NGOs"?

3. So you think it should be illegal to call for an open border?

4. Not at all. I have my own position on what constitutes being "anti-American", but what are yours specifically. And what is this "anti-American" position you seem to think I have?

5. So I'm guilty just because I'm a "leftard". You could have never interacted me at all, and I'd be inherently guilty of being evil, from your perspective. Now that's raw, unfiltered partisan hatred from you.

What "anti-american pieces of shit" have I supported? What "dishonest" behaviour are you referring to?

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[–] Corbell (11005) a year ago

1. Nope. I did not do that. You can tell because you had to make it up, and then try to assign it to me. If I had said anything like that, you could just have responded to what I actually said.

You do shit like that all the time. This is some of the dishonest shit behavior I mentioned below.

3. I think any foreigner who is in this country doing so, shoulc be deported immediately. They are clearly an enemy of this nation and should be treated as such. Any first gen immigrant who does so, should be investigated and possibly have their citizenship stripped. They are probably NOT loyal to this nation.

4. I'm not interesting in word games. Your idiocy is an attempt to muddy the waters to hide your support of anti-Americanism.

5. Too numerous to mention. Would derail thread. So fuck off.

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[–] Skavau (15993) a year ago

1. So I still have no idea what you were getting at. "I see western leftards whining like fags about russia fags, and I smell western ngos causing problems."

Who are the "western leftards"? What are the "western NGOs" you are referring to?

3. What about American citizens who support open borders?

4. How do I support "anti-americanism"?

5. You've already derailed the thread. And you can fuck off.

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[–] Corbell (11005) a year ago

1. I've dumbed it down as much as I am willing. YOu are free to give up and move on.

3. Mmm, and just like that, you drop your previous question. No point there? You really showed how much you cared about that question. Ie NOT AT ALL. JUST LIKE I SAID.

4. IN EVERY WAY.

5. Except I'm not the fucking asshoel here, you are.

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[–] Skavau (15993) a year ago

1. I'll just repeat myself. So I still have no idea what you were getting at. "I see western leftards whining like fags about russia fags, and I smell western ngos causing problems."

3. Answer my question: What about American citizens who support open borders?

4. That's not an answer. It's a toddler "no u" response. I'll try again: How do I support "anti-americanism"?

5. "No u". I don't give a fuck what you think, you hateful piece of shit.

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[–] Corbell (11005) a year ago

1. Well, that's that then.

3. Why? YOu demonstated that you don't care what I say as an answer, you just launch another "question" that is not part of an actual discussion. So fuck off.

4 IN EVERY WAY.

5. except, I'm not the hateful one. You are.

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[–] Skavau (15993) a year ago

1. I'll just repeat myself. So I still have no idea what you were getting at. "I see western leftards whining like fags about russia fags, and I smell western ngos causing problems."

3. Answer my question: What about American citizens who support open borders?

4. That's not an answer. It's a toddler "no u" response. I'll try again: How do I support "anti-americanism"?

5. "No u". I don't give a fuck what you think, you hateful piece of shit.

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[–] BKB (11330) a year ago

I support Tvfan 100% and that you shouldn't be indoctrinating small kids into this abnormal bullshit and another thing Lib: It's male & female: Not 6 of one and 1/2 dozen of another like Gen Z & Millennials like to do with this identity politics crap and making up one gender after another.. Fucking freakshow if I've ever seen it.. You're time is up and this experiment has run it's course

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[–] Skavau (15993) a year ago

That's not what the Russian "LGBT extremism" law does. It does much more than that.

Are you saying that you support the "LGBT extremism" law?

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[–] WandererFromYs (2406) a year ago

Why don’t you go over to Russia and protest the law. Calling out an anonymous user on a message board does nothing on way or the other.

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[–] Skavau (15993) a year ago

I'm making the point that many supposed free speech absolutist types on here are nothing of the sort.

TVfan is not the only one, and making threads like brings others from underneath the floorboards.

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[–] Joogle83 (4546) a year ago

yeah agreed about TVfan hes saying false things about RFK Jr yeah I loathe him as moderate Independent same with Bubblegut

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[–] Patman111196 (1893) a year ago

I thought this was the shitposting board where we all trolled around and acted psychotic.

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[–] Skavau (15993) a year ago

I suppose that is a possibility. But TVfan seems to hold this position legitimately.

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[–] stickman38 (3439) a year ago

Woah, tvfan is quite edgy. I wonder what else he's into.

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[–] Filmtenk2 (4138) a year ago

My guess is Stormfront.

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[–] TimeTunnel (4769) a year ago

You think he's female? 😉

https://the-boys.fandom.com/wiki/Stormfront

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[–] Filmtenk2 (4138) a year ago

Not that Stormfront. This Stormfront:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormfront_(website)

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[–] TimeTunnel (4769) a year ago

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....I would've never guessed THAT. 🤣

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[–] Skavau (15993) a year ago

Here is TVfan openly supporting censoring the media: https://moviechat.org/bd0000082/Politics/65d6881f975e425019604ad9/No-evidence-of-covid-vaccines-causing-death?reply=65da70c24e1a13098447a8ad

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[–] Galilguy (2530) a year ago

You continue to embarrass yourself with these immature posts. You also lose every debate on here..

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[–] Skavau (15993) a year ago

How do I "lose every debate"? TVfan runs away from most debates.

Am I wrong? Does TVfan support civil liberties or not?

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