True dat but on the bright side, at least they didn't have any ghey dwarves kissing and dry humping at midnight. Now that would have really set me off. That's just not the kind of thing kids should be exposed to.
I'm personally more annoyed by using the new year as an excuse to bring political messages in. I would have rather seen a huge and incredible fireworks segment instead. I guess fireworks suck way more more than politics.
Genuine obsession. Progressive derangement syndrome. The existence of gay or people of different races on your screen causes you to call it "propaganda". Snowflake.
You behave just like the woke. You are the reactionary version of Anita Sarkeesian. You have all the same rhetoric. You sit there with your clipboard and analyse 'offensive' content in TV/film. Your worldview is eerily similar to the stereotypical 'woke' worldview. You view things in terms of oppressor, and oppressed. Instead of patriarchy or intersectionality, you have progressivism or liberalism.
Whereas a large spectacled blue-haired beast would complain about veiled homophobia within a show, or complain about how a plot draws upon racial stereotypes, you instead just make notes of all nods or suggestions to aspects of a show or film that you regard as being implicitly heterophobic and complain about what you call as "forced inclusion" in casting or themes. Everything must conform to the worldview that you want. Anita Sarkeesian thinks similarly.
Yes, Iβm well aware of Konstantinβs critique of the right, and frankly, it's mostly nonsense. And let me clarify β Iβm not the Anita Sarkeesian of the right; Iβm far worse. I want Wokes put in internment camps for life, stripped of all rights, and removed from society. I aim to roll back the socially progressive policies of the last 50 years and lock up anyone who dares to disagree. And I want to ignite a bonfire of all the queer theory and gender studies books and burn them like the Nazis did just for the fun of it.
And why doesn't it apply to them? This is just a baseless assertion you've made. You hate free speech. You hate the western world. You are anti-american.
So I should be forcefully dragged out of my home and arrested?
We enjoy nearly absolute free speech in the United States, as enshrined in the First Amendment. Yet, during the latter half of the 20th century, we actively targeted Communists. They were purged from various aspects of society, fired from their jobs, driven out of their neighborhoods, and, in some cases, imprisoned. Remarkably, all of this occurred without infringing on their freedom of speech; they were never censored.
I want to deal with Wokes the same way we dealt with the Communists back in the '50s β because theyβre just as hellbent on destroying the American way of life.
>We enjoy nearly absolute free speech in the United States, as enshrined in the First Amendment.
Which you reject. You hate the first amendment.
>Yet, during the latter half of the 20th century, we actively targeted Communists. They were purged from various aspects of society, fired from their jobs, driven out of their neighborhoods, and, in some cases, imprisoned.
And that was wrong.
>Remarkably, all of this occurred without infringing on their freedom of speech; they were never censored.
You just specifically called for 'woke' people to be censored.
"Iβm far worse. I want Wokes put in internment camps for life, stripped of all rights, and removed from society. I aim to roll back the socially progressive policies of the last 50 years and lock up anyone who dares to disagree."
>I want to deal with Wokes the same way we dealt with the Communists back in the '50s β because theyβre just as hellbent on destroying the American way of life.
The American way of life includes freedom of expression, freedom of assembly, which you despise. You hate the American way of life. You hate the western way of life. You are much closer to an Iranian Mullah than you are any American.
Also, this is just a mirror image of how the worst of the wokes view the USA. They consider reactionaries, far-right people as trying to destroy the American way of life. You are part of the woke right.
>Don't presume to tell me what I hate. You don't know me.
I'll do whatever I like. You have repeatedly expressed the desire to arrest 'woke' people for expressing objection to your proposed ideals. This is in direct contradiction to the first amendment. You therefore quite obviously hate it. There's no other conclusion.
>Liar. I specifically called for Wokes to be put in internment camps not censored.
They would be arrested for what they say. If you can be arrested for what you say, you never had the right to say it in the first place. Maybe you'll leave their comments up, but they would still be disappeared by the state for making them. You hate free speech. I will not stop reminding you of this.
Yes, they can post their opinions on social media. But if they are Wokes they are going to the camps regardless of what they say. Maybe they don't even have to say anything. Maybe other people will simply expose them for who they are and that will be reason enough to snatch them of the street and into the camps they go.
Maybe they would be caught indoctrinating children in schools or replacing American flags with Pride flags. This would indicate that they are woke and therefore into the camps they go.
Now, I know what youβre going to sayβthat this is a violation of their free speech. But it isnβt. If someone admits to a crime and we lock them up for it, thatβs not a violation of their speech, even if theyβd be free if they hadnβt confessed.
>Maybe they would be caught indoctrinating children in schools or replacing American flags with Pride flags.
So the presence of pride flags in public should be banned, or just specifically if they replace a US flag? How is expression of culture, politics via symbolism somehow not a part of freedom of expression?
>Now, I know what youβre going to sayβthat this is a violation of their free speech. But it isnβt.
Yes it is. Why is not showing pride paraphenelia or flags in public somehow not a violation of their free speech?
>If someone admits to a crime and we lock them up for it, thatβs not a violation of their speech, even if theyβd be free if they hadnβt confessed.
You've just asserted this without providing any argument. If you're arrested because of a speech expression, it's an attack on free expression.
So the presence of pride flags in public should be banned, or just specifically if they replace a US flag? How is expression of culture, politics via symbolism somehow not a part of freedom of expression?
They should have no place in schoolsβthis used to be the standard. Teachers canβt simply teach children whatever they choose; they must follow a curriculum. Just as promoting Nazi ideology in class would be strictly prohibited, so too should the teaching of progressive, LGBTQ, and gender ideologies be restricted. Freedom of speech doesn't apply in the classroom in this sense; it's about maintaining educational standards, not endorsing personal ideologies.
You've just asserted this without providing any argument. If you're arrested because of a speech expression, it's an attack on free expression.
You are retarded. If a person confesses to a crime, they're exercising their right to speak freely, but that speech is treated as evidence of guilt, not as protected speech. Confessions to criminal acts provide direct proof of a crime, and under legal rules of evidence, this makes the speech admissible in court.
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>Freedom of speech doesn't apply in the classroom in this sense; it's about maintaining educational standards, not endorsing personal ideologies.
Right, that's not what I asked you - nor the context of what you claimed. I was asking about in public in general, not within schools.
>You are retarded. If a person confesses to a crime, they're exercising their right to speak freely, but that speech is treated as evidence of guilt, not as protected speech.
Banning public expressions of pride allegiance is de facto banning any argument supportive of LGBT activism or culture. Since any positive sentiment towards either would be regarded by the state as supportive of it, and the person doing it would be arrested. Your argument is a distinction without a difference. It functions as an attack on freedom of expression with the obvious purpose to be a chilling effect to mute it from public life. The 'crime' is in fact belonging. The crime is an identity. This is essentially just weasel words from you.
You hate freedom of expression. You hate the USA. You are anti-american and would be much more at home in Saudi Arabia or Iran.
The funny thing is, the Mods were mocking him in a thread on General Discussion. Skavau then cried and complained that he had to report people because everyone hated him and told him to kill himself. In response, the Mods literally advised him that instead of reporting people, he might want to stop responding to them or just ignore them if he didnβt like what they were saying. LOL.
I already liked the Mods; theyβre good people β especially Mod5. But after that exchange, my respect for them has only grown.
>The funny thing is, the Mods were mocking him in a thread on General Discussion.
The mods were "mocking me", sure, yet they apparently do some of my bidding all the same. How is it you don't appear to notice this?
>Skavau then cried and complained that he had to report people because everyone hated him and told him to kill himself. In response, the Mods literally advised him that instead of reporting people, he might want to stop responding to them or just ignore them if he didnβt like what they were saying. LOL.
They also said that they do in fact delete posts about people inciting violence and making threats.
>I already liked the Mods; theyβre good people β especially Mod5. But after that exchange, my respect for them has only grown.
And has your respect for Mod4 decreased for removing some of Meltons posts for spam then?
Well they have to remove some posts, that's their job. The point is that they are lenient and only remove posts only if they have to. Sometimes they remove posts that I don't think should have been removed, but then again, I don't agree with the rules so naturally I interpret them in such a way that nothing would ever get deleted if it was up to me.
And while I haven't interacted with her as much as Mod5, yes, from what I've seen, Mod4 seems like a pretty reasonable person as well.
>Amazing that Skavau can spew this shit immediately after heβs been on another post-purge
Curiousmind quite literally called for me to be put in a camp for my own opinion. Are you of the opinion this comes anywhere close to a moderator removing some of your comments on a forum for spam?
>badgering the mods to censor posts he disagrees with.
No, I reported spam.
>Heβs had several of mine deleted, the fascistic little fuck.
Doesn't this make the mods fascist? After all, I didn't make them actually delete those comments.
I think this would be a good time to reflect on SemiAnimusβ perfect description of you:
I'm a moderate and think you're an absolute cunt, Skavau.
While I don't agree with the individual you argued with here, your attempt to bait his perspective for the purpose of reporting him so that he will be banned is contemptible and pathetic. If the fascists ever come to power, it will occur through the exact sort of suppression of expression that you champion all over these boards. You are truly one of the biggest pieces of shit here and if you got your way Moviechat would become another Reddit -like echo of opinionated fuckwads like yourself swallowing each others semen and/or vaginal fluid while flagging and banning anyone that diverges from the hive mind by not slurping the shit you secrete out of that bodily orifice you refer to as a mouth.
You are the enemy of what Moviechat and it's notion of uninhibited expression represents.
Showcase what he means by trying to blame the mods again for your evil fascistic behaviourβ¦ππ»
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Because I don't like you. On the grounds of you being an annoying autist.
Honestly, what's funny is that I don't think a lot of people would actually protest this. They would be more than happy seeing you go. Think about that for a moment.
>Because I don't like you. On the grounds of you being an annoying autist.
So are you actually going to seriously answer this or not?
>Honestly, what's funny is that I don't think a lot of people would actually protest this. They would be more than happy seeing you go. Think about that for a moment.
Are you of the opinion moviechat users represent the wider British public?
No, I'm saying that people who know you wouldn't stand up for you if you would be dragged out of your home and put into a camp. They wouldn't like it on principle, but if it's you, they would just shrug their shoulders and say "shit happens".
>No, I'm saying that people who know you wouldn't stand up for you if you would be dragged out of your home and put into a camp. They wouldn't like it on principle, but if it's you, they would just shrug their shoulders and say "shit happens".
And based on what do you claim this? That I annoy you?
And again: On what grounds should I be arrested? Are you going to provide an actual serious answer?
Yes, because you are repulsive. Because you are an enemy of the state. Because you want to impose an ideology on the rest of us that damages society. You are just like the communists during the 50's. The people we targeted and removed from society. We did it because they were "Un-American". The same would apply to you if a nationalist government took power in the U.K.
How so?
Ask the members of MovieChat. I'm sure they'll be more then happy to go into detail.
What ideology do I want to impose on you?
Assuming you're Woke, you want to impose progressive ideology on our society.
They weren't subject to the scale of what you're proposing, nor even removed in totality.
So what? We used a half-measure when we should have gone all the way. I want a full-measure approach. A total purge.
>Ask the members of MovieChat. I'm sure they'll be more then happy to go into detail.
Most of them hate me (or many of them, haven't counted) because I'm 'progressive' (in their mind). That's it. It's no deeper than that. They hate anyone here who is not part of the in-group.
>Assuming you're Woke, you want to impose progressive ideology on our society.
How do I want to do this?
>So what? We used a half-measure when we should have gone all the way. I want a full-measure approach. A total purge.
"Most of them hate me (or many of them, haven't counted) because I'm 'progressive' (in their mind). That's it. It's no deeper than that. They hate anyone here who is not part of the in-group."
Thats not the impression I got why they *dont like you (hate is pretty dramatic my dude).
>Thats not the impression I got why they *dont like you (hate is pretty dramatic my dude).
Hate, dislike, get annoyed with. Choose your term.
And what's your impression then? I also don't let-up. They don't like that either. But otherwise it's purely because I don't praise Trump and hate Democrat/left-wing/progressive politicians or policies. It's that simple.
Ask the members of MovieChat. I'm sure they'll be more then happy to go into detail.
Youβre right there. Skavau is pure evil - relentlessly using dirty rhetorical tricks in service of an evil regime, plus his hypocrisy stinks - he dares to champion βfree speechβ while doing everything he can to have dissenting voices censored - heβs just had a load of my posts deleted by squealing to the mods.
That fascistic little fuck deserves the fate you describe.
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>heβs just had a load of my posts deleted by squealing to the mods.
It's funny how you complain about me doing this, yet don't at any point scrutinise the mods for actually removing them. It takes two to tango. You kept spamming.
>while doing everything he can to have dissenting voices censored - heβs just had a load of my posts deleted by squealing to the mods.
And why did the mods remove those comments of yours?
>That fascistic little fuck deserves the fate you describe.
So it's fascist for posts on an internet forum to be removed for spam/threats, but it's apparently /not/ fascist for me to be dragged to a camp for expressing my political and social positions?
>If itβs true that you want to suck Hitlerβs dead dick then reply to this post with the following text:
Back to your childish post editing.
I'm still astonished this genuinely entertains you. It's going to be a year since you started harassing me across the forum in 3 or 4 months. You're still doing the same stuff you did then.
Reddit tends to outright ban holocaust denial, or calling for the mass murder of people - things you advocate for openly. That's why you can't post on there, or on any other more reputable website.
That said, I flag people here for inciting violence, making threats or inciting suicide on here - all of which are against the sites TOS and enforced by the moderators.
You don't need to deny a holocaust or call for murder on Reddit to be banned. Reddit bans users temporarily or permanently (when they are disobedient enough) even when they just express mild opinions that are contrary to the liberal-globalist narratives. It is very easy to get banned permanently by a subreddit or the Reddit when you donβt serve their dictatorial decadent agendas and lean to another camp.
>You don't need to deny a holocaust or call for murder on Reddit to be banned.
Correct. There are other things that can get you banned too. But those are things you specifically do.
>Reddit bans users temporarily or permanently (when they are disobedient enough) even when they just express mild opinions that are contrary to the liberal-globalist narratives.
What opinions are these specifically?
>It is very easy to get banned permanently by a subreddit or the Reddit
Subreddits aren't run by Reddit. It's an entirely different thing if you get banned from them. Why a subreddit may or may not ban you has nothing to do with Reddit.
>or the Reddit when you donβt serve their dictatorial decadent agendas and lean to another camp.
Oh go fuck yourself, you whiny little bitch. You are in favour of dictatorship. If you had it your way all liberals and feminists and LGBT people would be arrested. You have zero grounds to whine about being censored online by social media websites. You hypocritical fascist.
" What opinions are these specifically?"
One example: I was totally banned for 7 days on a charge of hate speech because I simply wrote that the killer in Southport was a black of Rwandan origin. I didn't insult anyone, didnβt write something like "black scum" or "black loser".
" Subreddits aren't run by Reddit."
Reddit then banned me permanently on the same charge of hate speech. They invoked my said message to ban me permanently. I appealed and they didnβt lift the ban.
"Oh go fuck yourself, you whiny little bitch."
You have cursed me a gazillion of times, simply because I'm of different camp and yet I have NEVER flagged you (unlike what you do against Melton). This is what you can freely and repeatedly do on this forum. On Reddit they may curse the dissenters one or twice or no time, and then they'll just ban them.
>One example: I was totally banned for 7 days on a charge of hate speech because I simply wrote that the killer in Southport was a black of Rwandan origin.
I feel like I don't believe this is the full story here.
>You have cursed me a gazillion of times, simply because I'm of different camp and yet I have NEVER flagged you
So fucking what? You still wish to persecute me. You still don't think I should have the right to express myself without the state kicking down my door and arresting me. You think my social liberalism should get me arrested.
You hate free speech. You hate democracy.
>I have NEVER flagged you (unlike what you do against Melton).
Why do you think I have flagged Melton?
>This is what you can freely and repeatedly do on this forum. On Reddit they may curse the dissenters one or twice or no time, and then they'll just ban them.
Yes, I'm well aware of the substantial differences to moderation on here compared to Reddit.
But it doesn't change the fact that you hate free speech, and think I should be stopped by force from disagreeing with you.
" I feel like I don't believe this is the full story here."
I don't believe that you donβt believe. You know how the aggressive Reddit works. I could give you more crazy examples of banning.
" You still wish to persecute me."
Persecution mania. Provide evidence that I have flagged you.
"Why do you think I have flagged Melton?"
Why don't I flag you?
" you hate free speech, and think I should be stopped by force from disagreeing with you."
I haven't even flagged you once on this forum, namely, anonymously and safely without consequences on my real life, how would I stop you by force?
>I don't believe that you donβt believe. You know how the aggressive Reddit works. I could give you more crazy examples of banning.
I don't believe your telling of it. You have a track record on here of just making shit up and passing it as truth.
>Persecution mania. Provide evidence that I have flagged you.
I'm not talking about being flagged on here, but your ideal society. You've spoken repeatedly about how all liberals, feminists, LGBT people etc should be censored by the state. I'm a liberal. That would include me.
>Why don't I flag you?
You can if you like. But you didn't answer my question: Why do you think I have flagged Melton?
>I haven't even flagged you once on this forum, namely, anonymously and safely without consequences on my real life, how would I stop you by force?
You can't. But you still wish to. In your ideal world, I would be arrested.
Yes, they did so. Banned me for simply writing that the killer is black. And I was shadowbanned permanently for not liking a post about so-called "homosexual" penguins: I just commented that it was indirect gay propaganda aimed at normalizing human sodomy. I could provide many examples of banning.
"You can if you like."
I repeat you have insulted me a gazillion of times and I haven't flagged you. I'm more pluralistic than you think. Unlike many reddit moderators and users I don't try to ban anyone here or anywhere else.
"But you still wish to. In your ideal world, I would be arrested."
The fact that I have NEVER flagged you proves that you are writing nonsense, your fears are baseless, paranoiac.
>Yes, they did so. Banned me for simply writing that the killer is black.
I still don't believe you.
>And I was shadowbanned permanently for not liking a post about so-called "homosexual" penguins: I just commented that it was indirect gay propaganda aimed at normalizing human sodomy. I could provide many examples of banning.
This one is more believable.
>I repeat you have insulted me a gazillion of times and I haven't flagged you.
Insulting people isn't against the site rules of moviechat. I don't report just for insults.
>I'm more pluralistic than you think. Unlike many reddit moderators and users I don't try to ban anyone here or anywhere else.
Instead you just want the state to do it for you. Do you really think this is fooling me?
>The fact that I have NEVER flagged you proves that you are writing nonsense, your fears are baseless, paranoiac.
Dude, you are literally on record for calling for this stuff:
You think I should be arrested. I'll ask again within this thread: Should liberals and feminists have the right to express their position without the state arresting them?
I didn't advocate for arrest!! I supported and support monetary penalties (fines) and scientific research to find cures for lesbians, gays and persons of aberrant sexual orientations. And to quote myself: "This measure should be temporary, until the [lgbt/woke] phenomenon subsides to a considerable degree."
The fact that I have NEVER flagged you proves that you are writing nonsense, your fears are baseless, paranoiac.
Leftists need a victim narrative to justify persecuting innocent people who wonβt submit to their sick cult.
This fascist little fuck Skavau is the only one squealing to the mods to get others censored and banned here, even the mods have started calling him out for it.
Are you going to answer my previous reply, or are you too much of a dumbass to do so?
Melton used "fascist" as a pejorative. Aren't you a self-identified fascist? Aren't you on record openly stating how I should be punished by the state for expressing socially liberal perspectives?
>Leftists need a victim narrative to justify persecuting innocent people who wonβt submit to their sick cult.
You do realise he wants me fined, right? He wants the state to sanction me for expressing my opinions. In his ideal world, he would weaponise the state to punish me.
He wants to use the state to force me and others to submit to his worldview.
>This fascist little fuck Skavau is the only one squealing to the mods to get others censored and banned here, even the mods have started calling him out for it.
They also delete posts based on my reports. Why is this?
By the way, and I missed this at the time - this is tantamount to just saying that you reject free speech. The point of free expression is that it ought apply to all. Not arbitrarily rejected for specific viewpoints, or for people who hold a cultural or political identity you dislike.
It applies to all β all humans. Wokes aren't human, they are subhuman, like vermin. Free Speech doesn't apply to chimps for example, so why would it apply to vermin?
Yes, "wokes" are humans (or specifically, people who hold an worldview you don't like). On what grounds are "wokes" not humans exactly?
This is clearly not remotely a serious argument by you. You hate free speech. You hate the USA. You hate the western world. You have more in common with Iranian mullahs and Saudi clerics than anyone in the USA. I will never stop reminding you of this. You are closer to an Islamofascist than any western derived worldview.
It sure looks that way. It's happening in every White country. But sshhh, the replacement is just a right wing conspiracy theory, so don't you believe it, even if it's happening right in front of your eyes and is literally spelled out and called a genocide by the UN: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GUb8rxrWYAEQrO-?format=jpg&name=large
It's a plan supported by leftists and globalists and applied through lgbt propaganda and the massive migration from nonwhite or non-Christian countries. Lgbt people donβt procreate, while huge groups of migrants change radically a nation's demographical gene pool. The USA for example is becoming more and more Latinized and Asianized. Call it Kallergi plan or UN's Global Compact for Migration, the aim is the same.
Then I'll continue to call him a lying piece of shit who makes stuff up.
And what "research" are you even referring to? You're talking about motives here about why things are depicted. How do you determine what "LGBT propaganda" supposedly is? Is it just anything that shows LGBT people existing?
Most politicians make claims. This "muh overpopulation" conspiracy nonsense is so out of date now it's laughable. This hasn't been a serious concern for decades.
It demonstrates that PSVille is full of shit. I've had many arguments with him on here and he repeatedly makes utterly baseless, sometimes trivially disprovable claims. Dude openly admits to being a nazi and a holocaust denier.
Are you going to spend much of your day stalking me on the forum?
No. I don't give a fuck about your conditions. Your inability to provide a single shred of any evidence or arguments for any of your baseless allegations against me and others speaks for itself.
You do realise that you're spending most of your time here on moviechat obsessing about me? I keep repeating this because I can't believe how you don't realise how pathetic it looks on you. Why do you care so much about me?
I'm quite confident that 50% of your posts in the last year on moviechat are about me. That's really sad.
The choice of everyone here to dismiss your petit interrogations and laugh at your incessant bullshit speaks to what an almighty prick you are on every level π€£
That you follow my interactions on here as you do and how others may or may not perceive me, and how utterly entertained you are about them here speaks to how utterly obsessed you are.
I really don't care about what most people on here think of me.
And the mod, I'm afraid was either lying or didn't understand some of my reports. This isn't a total surprise given you cannot attach reasoning to a report.
What lies have I stated on here? You can't name any of them. The only reason you consider me a liar is because I openly disagree with you. That's it. That's enough for you to hate anyone. You have a cult-like mentality. A with me or against me mentality. Anyone who disagrees with you on anything is automatically registered as an enemy to you.
And it's curious how you do trust these mods given they have removed many of your posts.