so, what IS a workable solution for usa gun issue?

And those people STILL go on mass killing sprees.

can that be turned around?

I don't fucking care about other countries....they are not the USA. They do not matter.

Go move to them, if you think they are so great.

Is funny saying that out right to own guns is to keep the government at bay. When the second amendment was debated the reasons were for protecting the country from invasion and insurrection. And the federal government is what created our domestic gun industry.

The post you are responding to didn't mention criminals or laws.

same. theyve let it get so bad everyone feels they need somehting or they are behind on the "arms race" because they are so prevelant and you never know whose packing heat. A feeling i have literally never felt in my life

yaaa clearly those need to be controlled. i jsut find it funny when republicans say "the second is unrestrictable! its an unalienable right and even says "shall not be infringed"!" but bring up RPGs or bazookas and they are like "well ya of course we need those restrictions". then you try and apply that logic to other stuff and they say "no its inalienable!"

it is undoubtaly a partisan issue. republicans wont break ranks on guns cause their gun nut voters wont let them itd be their political end. you didnt know what cope meant now you dont know what partisan means. jog on.

a fetus is not a kid. you thought you had a zinger there didnt you?

6% of the population of the UK is muslim

You need to understand something about the American press:

They aren't there to inform you. They are there to sell a narrative, get your attention, sway your opinion, and to entertain you, and they are firmly biased towards anything that is American liberalism. They've been that way from the beginning, and they have only gotten worse since then. Their job is not to tell you the truth (the European press is just as bad). One thing American liberals don't like are guns (a layover from when their ancestors were loyalists to King George III), and the news is always reporting on mass shootings (some of which are staged by the FBI or CIA to lie to the public).

They're trying to sell a story that American civilians (besides cops and security guards) are not responsible enough to be left alone with guns. They make us all sound crazy and that we shouldn't be trusted with firearms, and that we have so many shootings that your average schoolchild spends at least one day a week dodging bullets. While that may be true in places like Chicago or Columbia, it's as far from the truth as you can get.

It would ruin the story they were selling if people found out that most Americans who own firearms have actually been very responsible with them, observed the laws, did not use them except within specific situations (such as hunting or defense), and even protected others they saw were in danger from a nutjob who probably got their gun illegally. I've met a few gun-owners, and none of them were trigger-happy loonies. I also spent my entire school career, never even seeing a gun except in a few movies brought in to entertain the kids, or on the belt of a police officer teaching us why we shouldn't be abusing drugs.

The biggest thing that busts the myth of the irresponsible American gun owner, are people who legally owned guns who stopped a nutjob from hurting others. There are actually more of them then there are shootings, but you have to search really hard to find any articles written about them.

It should also be noted that a large number of gun deaths in the US are not actually due to murdering another person. Over half of them are suicides, usually older adults. But the American Press and their masters wouldn't want you to know that either.

The press also magnifies the story, exaggerates how many were killed, and drags the story out for months to make it seem like it happened far longer than it actually did, and they keep the part about the shooter getting stopped to a very minimum. It's one of many ways they distract the public from our real problems.

From what I've heard, they lie about guns just as much over in Europe. They hate guns over there even more than our liberals do here, and love to say "Oh gun deaths are down by a lot now that we disarmed the populace!" without mentioning that those same people who would have used a gun here in the US just kill using other weapons, like knives, poison, improvised weapons from farms, and even sharpened shovels; so the death rates aren't lower, just different overseas.