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Here's why people who say sex and gender are different are being dishonest.


Simply put, I've never once heard someone who is transgender say they are saving money to get a gender change. 100% of the time they say it's a sex change. They think they can change biology. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.

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Semantics. Pertaining to English.

How do you say it in Quechua? Or Cantonese?

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You could say it's semantics, but then people complain about using the pronouns they aren't comfortable with. Semantics could also be trying to claim sex and gender are two different things. Here's some more semantics, why is it that trans people say they are born in the wrong body, but disabled people never claim this about themselves? Trans people are essentially saying that disabled people are born in the correct body and yet disabled people don't claim disabledphobia.

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Still semantics. Only one word is used for "he, she, it" in some languages like Mandarin Chinese and Indonesian. The pronoun issue is an English language problem. Don't forget, new grammatical rule is the plural they and them to avoid using the singular he and him in reference to both genders. Ex. "Each should mind their business." instead of "Each should mind his business."

I prefer the Native-American term "Two-Spirit". 10/10 term!

Most disabled people are not born that way. They acquire it later in life from an accident, illness or old age.

The Republican Party and their media arm have you spending a lot of energy worrying about transgender while they line their own pockets with tax cuts, bribes and other giveaways. You're too easily distracted.

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But in French, everything is gendered. A man's pen in "un stylo". A female's pen is "une stylo". "They" wouldn't mean the same thing.

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LOL! I hope you're making one of your jokes.

There is no such thing as une stylo. Stylo is always masculine no matter who owns it.

What's your thoughts about Spanish which has masculine, feminine and neuter? Instead of Latino or Latina, the term Latine is used in order not to specify gender.

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The masculine singular possessive adjectives are: mon, ton, son, notre, votre, leur.

The feminine singular possessive adjectives are: ma, ta, sa, notre, votre, leur.


https://global-exam.com/blog/en/french-grammar-possessives/#:~:text=The%20masculine%20singular%20possessive%20adjectives,%2C%20nos%2C%20vos%2C%20leurs.

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I'm fluent in French.

stylo is masculine therefore you would use a masculine possesive adjective and adjective.

Mon nouveau stylo est rompu.

plural:
Mes nouveaux stylos sont rompus.

La femme (woman) tient le nouveau stylo rompu.

A singular feminine adjective becomes masculine only if the following word begins with a vowel or mute H:

Ma grande amie (female friend)
Mon amie (ma copine)
Mes amies

Mon grand ami (male friend)
Mon ami (mon copain)
Mes amis

https://progress.lawlessfrench.com/revision/grammar/use-mon-ma-mes-ton-ta-tes-son-sa-ses-to-say-my-your-his-her-possessive-adjectives

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But French is still a gendered language.
https://www.epfl.ch/schools/enac/about/diversity-office/inclusive-language/french-inclusive-language-gender/

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I'm not sure what French has to do with transgendered people, but I'm enjoying the chat.

Following your reasoning, English was once gendered, but no longer. We can consider that a sign to accept LGBTQI people.

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This is what I mean about liberals changing definitions. I mean, fairy/fairyself is a thing now, but apparently I'm told it's not a mental illness.

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I get the impression that you're watching right-wing media and buying into their anti-LGBTQI propaganda.

When I want to know what's happening with a group, I read the group's news, etc. or speak with them directly.

"fairy/fairyself is a thing"

Like this comment and a few others. Can you provide a link(s) to your sources?

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Why are you so obsessed with asking others for links?

You don’t care about opposing views since all you provide are ‘leftist propaganda’ and ‘fake news’ so you can double down on lies.

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Why are you so obsessed with asking others for links?


It's a bell curve thing. The 60-70% of people that hang out at the top of the Bell lack the skills required to think critically, or operate on logical instincts. Due to these deficiencies, they require a preceptive "Authoritative Source" in order to believe anything because they do not trust their own judgement on the world.

Oddly enough, the Smartest people and the stupidest of people both operate on logical instincts, and have very good critical thinking skills.

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Bee/Fairy
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/WK6KOhM2vvg

Fairy/Fairyself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpFa1NQm_fY&pp=ygUPZmFpcnkgZmFpcnlzZWxm

Fairygender
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxX7-ioOjZQ&pp=ygUPZmFpcnkgZmFpcnlzZWxm

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Anti-LGBTQ youtubers are not great sources. They're very young and come across as clowning for clicks.

If I wanted to know about the LGBTQI community, I would start with those books which are banned in some schools since they'll have educational value:
https://www.advocate.com/books/2022/2/03/18-lgbtq-books-are-banned-schools-2022#rebelltitem5

Advocate magazine has a website:
https://www.advocate.com/

https://www.out.com/
is more art-focused.

There are comment sections to different stories for opinions and points of view.

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What makes pro-LGBT sources any better? This is from one of the books they are upset is banned.
https://img1.wsimg.com/isteam/ip/82f93c80-c48c-47ea-85e6-a54b30ef0ec7/C64BF12C-A379-4377-8661-B9207CE48C1F.jpeg/:/cr=t:2.38%25,l:0%25,w:100%25,h:63.31%25/rs=w:600,h:300,cg:true

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It should come as no surprise that Keelai is a supporter of child grooming.

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He's just obsessed with conservatives as if liberals aren't just as bad.

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If you want to learn about LGBTQI, then listen to LGBTQI. Your sources are not LGBTQI.

I doubt it's an elementary school book. What's the name of the book?

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I believe it's called "This Book is Gay".

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Nope! Try again.

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You're right, it's called Gender Queer. That's also a book LGBTQ people are upset is banned.
https://roxburyparentalrightsineducati.godaddysites.com/rhs-library-2

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I just read Gender Queer. It's a good book to understand an LGBTQI perspective. Unless you're prudish.

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Yeah, not for kids though.

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It depends. 18 is fine nationwide. In regard to each state, it should depend on their age of consent. If you're old enough to have sex at 16, then you're old enough to read this book, get birth control, have an abortion.

Anyway, Americans are very prudish. This book would get a shrug in Europe.

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Nothing prudish about this. Kids shouldn't be learning how to go down on someone.

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A 16 & 17-year-old already knows.

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Then the book is irrelevant and would have no purpose of being written . There's obviously a reason why it's banned.

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The story is very relevant and educational because it's explaining what it's like to grow-up LGBTQI.

Hundreds of panels, but you want to focus on less than a handful of panels with nudity because you are immature and believe sex and nudity are dirty.

Grow up!

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I don't believe sex and and nudity are dirty, I just don't believe you should be showing kids books on how to suck a dick. Seriously, you're sharing the same opinion as Allaby which is very concerning

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18 is an adult.

Why do some states allow 16-year-olds to legally have sex? Raise it to 18. I wouldn't have a problem with that.

I also don't believe children should be exposed to violence in the media. Or be allowed to use most firearms. Remove guns, knives, explosions and assaults, etc.. from cartoons and kids shows and video games. You don't have an issue with that?

And recreational Marijuana and cigarettes should be illegal.

If you want to protect children, then be complete instead of selective.

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Who said I don't have an issue with violence in the media or kids using weapons? At no point did I claim I was in favour of it.

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What's going on in your country? What type of LGBTQI books are allowed in your schools?

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I'm not sure. There hasn't been any protests I'm aware of.

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Canadian? I read that books are rarely banned in Canada.

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I only know of movies being banned. I don't recall any books.

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The English language works fine. The only problem is that people are trying to redefine established terms.

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English doesn't work fine. Any adult learning it would attest to the many contradictions, irregularities and problems. For instance, other societies don't have spelling bees because their languages are phonetical.

The real problem is conservatives are attempting to fit ALL people in their narrowly defined categories. Live and let live.

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Spelling oddities have nothing to do with gender definitions.

All do people do fit within the the existing gender categories. We can respect the people want to identify, but that doesn’t mean we have to deny reality.

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There is plenty more wrong with English besides spelling irregularities.

Anyway, language reflects culture. When culture changes, so does its language.

The reality is that reality was always denied. For instance, the belief that marriage should only be between a man and woman denies the reality of homosexuality. The belief that men and women must think and act a specific way also denies reality.

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YOU'RE ON FIRE TODAY.👍🏾

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LOL! 😅

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Keelai gave Samoanjoke a thrashing for sure. Now, if we could only get him to like weed he would be alright. 👍

Signed, million man.

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Where's the thrashing? Keelai doesn't believe that language is a social construct. Above he said that language reflects culture. Literally words do not exist without a society deeming those words as appropriate.

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You're like my buddy I get drunk with. We disagree politically but still get along. As to where what is. I don't know right now. Lol

Signed, million man.

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The problem with Keelai is that his mind is always gearing toward owning conservatives. Liberals and conservatives don't realize how much they're alike and I find it so entertaining to see.

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The problem. With Keelai is that he doesn't like weed. That is all I see.

Signed, million man.

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KEELAI IS RIGHT...LANGUAGE/WORDS ARE NOT A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT...THEY ARE SIMPLY LANGUAGE...THE MEANINGS WE ATTACH THAT ARE NOT INHERENTLY BUILT INTO THE WORDS ARE SOCIAL CONSTRUCTS.

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Not meanings. The words themselves. Like the spelling and such.

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ALL CREATURES HAVE COMMUNICATION/SPEECH TO SOME EXTENT...THE WORDS THEMSELVES ARE JUST FIGUREHEADS FOR THE MEANINGS.

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Not really. We all could have just stuck with sign language. Society chose that vocals were the best option.

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RIGHT...BUT THEY ARE NOT...

constructs (plural noun)
an idea or theory containing various conceptual elements, typically one considered to be subjective and not based on empirical evidence


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Speaking is subjective. As I said, we as humans could have chosen sign language.

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Humans use a combination of vocal, sign, body and facial expression for communication. Also writing and art.

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You said that pronouns were an English language problem, and then you brought up spelling irregularities. English is a complex language, and it breaks all of its own rules, that’s true, but that has nothing to do with your original point of pronouns being some sort of a limitation of the English language. You haven’t proven your point.

I’m not sure where you are going with the gay marriage thing, but it’s not comparable.

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Poster Sammy was blathering about pronouns in regard to transexuals. My response was in Mandarin Chinese and Indonesian, pronouns wouldn't be an issue since one word is used for she, he and it. The pronoun problem is within the English language.

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Gender is between your ears, biology is between your legs.

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I don't even think gender is between your ears. I think if you are a dude that likes wearing dresses, that's just a natural enjoyment.

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sign me up

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And chest area.

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Well, sex is biological so yes, you would need to get a sex change to conform to the 'feelings' of your LARPin' gendered self.

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Even LARPers know they're not really wizards.

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WEAK.🫤

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Only you would make this post about your penis.

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Only you would know. 😆

Signed, million man.

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Transgenderism is a mental illness and I wish the majority of people didn't try to act like it's normal and should be accepted.

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Transgenderism is not different than depression, anorexia, schizophrenia.

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Except depression, anorexia, and schizophrenia aren't actively promoted, especially to little kids.

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Yeah, that's kind of my point. We're only supposed to accept gender.

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If I decide to become a woman tomorrow I didn't develop a mental illness overnight. It is simply a life style change.

Signed, million man.

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Frankly I disagree. And you and so many others who disagree would all be put in mental institutions if I had my way.

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AWW...YOU ARE SUCH A SWEETIE.🙂

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Good thing you're just a nerd on the internet.

Signed, million man

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They were never different until the Democrats, specifically bend over Barry, and Big Mike, came up with this new mental illness to create chaos.

Even gays are sick of their shit. Trying to lump every sub group into one group with pedophiles, so they can attack straight white men only, is a joke.

They’re a party of hate, division, and mental illness.

Stand for the flag that represents equality, peace, and love for all. 🇺🇸

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Exactly. I'm not liberal or conservative, but I have noticed liberals like to change definitions to win an argument.

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They do it on the fly in the middle of discussion. It's infuriating, and ensures no common ground can be had.

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They say you can't define a woman, but then claim that women are women if they simply identify as one. You can't have one without the other.

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Woman: Human female sex. Has vagina, uterus, and ovaries that contain eggs with purpose of creating new humans. Has sebaceous tissue on chest for the purpose of feeding offspring. Has various skeletal differences than male counter part. Has smaller brain than male counterpart.

92.5% of humans are heterosexual, 51% of those humans are female.

See, that was really easy.

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Leftists always lie.
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I don't think a woman needs a vagina or uterus. Deformities exist. Being born without legs still makes a person human.

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NO...YOU'RE AN IDIOT...OVER HERE PLAYING GRAB ASS WITH THE POLITICS SEPTIC TANK CRITTERS.

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You remind me of a coworker. He is completely unaware of the possibility of anyone having a different opinion than him. He will raise his voice and insult, but he will never say why they disagree.

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I NEVER SAID I DISAGREE,CHAMP...WHAT I WILL SAY IS...SPREADING MEAN-SPIRITED VENOM...MAKING POSTS THAT ENCOURAGE NASTY THOUGHTS...ADDING TO THE ALREADY ENDLESS STREAM OF FILTH RUNNING THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF MC... ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE EITHER WHO THEY ARE ...OR MENTALLY ILL...EITHER WAY...THAT IS FUCKING SUCKY.

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You know what I find nasty? People claiming they were born in the wrong body and telling people that they really are women because they identify with it, but disabled people aren't born in the wrong body and no matter how they identify they'll always be disabled. I also find it nasty when I see trans women say they are getting period cramps even though they were born men. It's insulting.

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YOU SEEM BITTER...BUCK UP,CHAMP...LET PEOPLE FIGURE THEIR SHIT OUT...JUST WORRY ABOUT YOUR OWN.

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Calm down distant Pollack cousin. 🙅🏼‍♀️ People are being sued if the correct pronoun isn’t used as per the new “alphabet soup” people. People face losing their jobs if they refer to someone using the incorrect pronoun.

Everyday we wake up there’s a new different gender which arose during the night, and I’m not referring to tally-whackers. Another letter to add to the new alphabet soup of genders is the letter “I”. There may be a minor deformity at birth which surgeons corrected. No biggy🤷🏼‍♀️, but in today’s time it had to be tagged with something. So…now we have Intersex kids.

As I wrote prior, before reaching puberty, I hated being a girl. I wanted to be a boy which in those days were referred to as “tomboys”. I didn’t want to play the sissy games girls played. I wanted to do boy things. I hated it when I started to develop into a young girl and was bound & determined to not be a girl. I bound my developing breasts, refused to wear a bra and continued my “tomboy” ways. But, something happened when I turned 13. All of a sudden I was attracted to boys, but not as playmates. (that came later 🤭).

Dear Kowalski, you have a daughter (14 now?) to whom you have a great father/daughter bond which most of us would give our eye teeth in order to have. Would you in your heart of hearts take her to have a mastectomy if she decided to become a teenage boy because she’s always felt she was a male? BTW, Bruce Jenner still looks like a horse! I haven’t seen an attractive trans yet, but I’ve seen some homosexuals who were too pretty to be a male.

Most of the non-gender specific people are messed up mentally because the world is messed up mentally & socially.

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as always you rude and ruin every discussion with your childish woke behavior.

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STALKING AND FLAMING ARE BOTH VIOLATIONS,SUSAN.😘

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I feel sorry for you, apart from cursing you are not capable of a cultural discussion.

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MAN...FOR THE LOVE OF GOD...WHATEVER GRUDGE YOU ARE HOLDING AGAINST ME...DROP IT...IT'S DUMB...AND YOU ARE STARTING TO ACT PRETTY CHILDISH.

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Not bitter, but don't start complaining when Ali comes home complaining some dude who looks like a linebacker walked into her bathroom at school.

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UNLESS THIS DUDE TOUCHED HER...WHICH WOULD BE MET WITH EXTREME AGGRESSION ON ALI'S PART...I DON'T THINK ALI WOULD CARE...WOMEN USE STALLS...STAY OUT OF HER STALL AND EVERYTHING IS GOOD.

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Exactly. Kids are great they don't judge like some Neanderthal adults.

Signed, million man.

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Why would a dude need to go into the woman's washroom?

And what if Ali didn't qualify for a race because some dude who said he was a girl beat her in the qualifications?

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I ASKED...ALI SAID SHE WOULDN'T CARE IF SOME "DUDE" USED THE BATHROOM AS LONG AS HE DIDN'T MESS WITH HER.

I DO NOT AGREE WITH THE TRANS/SPORTS THING.

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I identify as Kowalski. Give me all your movies.

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YOU CAN IDENTIFY AS ME ALL YOU LIKE...YOU WANNA SINGLE WHITE FEMALE MY COLLECTION...THAT WILL BE DECIDED BY A MACHETE FIGHT.

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Sorry distant cuz, a man should stay out of a women’s restroom. We don’t just visit it for potty time. We use it to change clothes. We use it if we have an accident during the time of the month & have to wash out & dry undies. Happened to me, but fortunately I was wearing a long jacket which covered my bottom while I rinsed out my undies & jeans.

Besides most men are messy when using a toilet to whiz. I don’t want to use the same toilet a man used. My husband told me the men’s restrooms at the casinos we went to were nasty with piss all over the floor!

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Says the guy who practically give Keeliar a foot massage above. One of the worst trolls on the site.

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They have to. Whereas normal people live in reality based on hard evidence, the left has to redefine words, revise history, so they can craft a version of reality that fits the mentally ill pretzel they twist themselves into.

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What I find funny is that they call us bigots. I mean, they're telling me that I'm only a male because society has indoctrinated me to believe I am male. It's biology, not society.

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Do they still say things like "My sex is male, but my gender is female"? Or "I'm a woman in a man's body"?

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Yes.

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They aren't the same thing.

Sex = Biological body parts that develop based on the sperm carrying an X or Y chromosome.

Gender = Expression of oneself through mindset, presentation, language, action, etc.

Where the debate and confusion starts is the double think of Sex and Gender being different, yet Gender retaining the legal protections of biological sex.

Gender expression should in no way be legally protected under the law as biological sex organs are.

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-President Ronald Reagan

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Leftists always lie.
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I do believe that sex and gender are the same and that everything else are attributes. For example: I don't see how wearing a dress and playing with dolls is considered a gender, but if I like wearing a uniform of a construction worker and playing with power tools, that's not considered a gender. Both are just interests and/or attributes of how they feel.

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This is what we are being fed and you better “toe the line”! It’s going to get worse.

”Many people use the terms “gender” and “sex” interchangeably. However, gender and sex actually refer to two separate things.

Gender is an identity — your personal sense of who you are. The term can also refer to socially constructed categories that relate to what it means to be a man or a woman.

Sex refers to biological and physiological characteristics. Your genitals, hormones, and chromosomes all relate to your sex.

Although many are taught that there are only two sexes — male and female — that isn’t true. Some people are intersex or have a difference of sexual development (DSD).


Try to wrap your head around the following:

There are 72 Genders & counting

https://www.medicinenet.com/what_are_the_72_other_genders/article.htm

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Thank you for sharing the article, but good lord, that's a lot of garbage. Every other thought or mood is a new gender. There's literally no difference between genders 1 and 3.

I must be #21. Apagender: The person has apathy or a lack of feelings toward one's gender identity.

Doesn't even explain how a child age 2 to 3 know if they are a boy or a girl. What criteria do they use. The rest is just stereotypes and feeling different from others. Typical stuff.

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"Doesn't even explain how a child age 2 to 3 know if they are a boy or a girl."

I have very early memories. Everyone tells the child what their gender is: "What a cute baby boy/girl you have!" That's repeatedly reinforced with color pink/blue), room decorations, clothes, toys and behavior (girls treated more delicately/boys not expected to cry). Socialization? But, kids reject gender role limitations all the time.

In a crib, I knew that I was a younger version of one parent. To me, physical gender differences were males taller, deeper voice and shorter hair. I knew nothing about genitalia. I also had my first crushes before 2 years old which convinces me that heterosexual/homosexual/bi is genetic.

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What do you identify as right now? And what's your criteria for determining your gender, now that you are older? Did it change from when you were in a crib?

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Same me.

I find it interesting that Conservative leaders are clarifying that they're not criticizing homosexuals - just transgender. I assume homosexuality is too mainstream to be targeted - for now.

Consevatives need a group to target with their hatred. Blacks during most U.S. history, ethnic whites and Chinese during mass immigration, Mexicans and Natives during expansion, Communists during Cold War, Liberals during Fox and right-wing media intro, Muslims 2001-2018, Chinese 2019-2021 and now Transgender. It makes me wonder who their next target will be after the present one bores them.

I've heard parents of transgender people say their kids showed behavior from very early.

It's easier to just ask yourself when did YOU know. Did you choose by writing a pro/con list in regard to sexual choice and gender or did you just know?

Anyway, humans are extremely complex. Live and let live.

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I don't speak for conservatives. But people who are hardly liberal would likely leave homosexuals alone because they're not doing anything particularly wrong. Who they date and marry are their own business, and they've proven to be good enough to stay out of other people's business as well.

That's what "live and let live" really means. Mutual exchange, or mutual non-interference.

Progressive transgenders, however, are a lot more different. Their need to be validated and feel good about themselves requires the right to compromise others' rights, invade spaces, control speech, influence children, teach indefensible things, and silence criticism. And not only do they have pretty antagonistic methods in making these happen, but they can get pretty ungrateful for all the help they think they are entitled to.

The rest of what you said about Conservatives needing targets, well I can't defend all of those. But I know that they are redundant right now and will not negate the need to discuss what's being discussed. This is just fearmongering and guilt by association.

Parents of transgenders usually cite social roles and stereotypes as reasons their children are trans.

As for ME, I don't actually know when did I learn what I was. All I know is that I've always acted on observation and understanding. Not preferences and feelings.

My dad had a penis and so did I. And at some forgotten point, I learned that my mom didn't have one.

"Boys have penis, girls have vaginas". And you know the rest.

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Historically in the U.S., homosexuals were persecuted, arrested, jailed, discriminated, murdered, institutionalized, forced mental treatments, etc..
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/stonewall-milestones-american-gay-rights-movement/

Everything you said about transgender, conservatives said about homosexuals. Gay marriage is very new. There used to be sodomy laws and gay men arrested for having sex in their own home.

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Gays don't invade women's restrooms or beat them in sports without actually being women, they don't penalize people for not using their pronouns, they don't say that sex is on a spectrum and then fail to explain how that changes the difference between males and females, they don't spout "trans women ARE women" while constantly ill-defining women, and they don't encourage children to deny what they see in the mirror.

Gays don't tell other people to not identify themselves by their biology, or else it will upset the gays.

They also don't make other people bear the burden of proving they are not bigots by doing whatever the gays want, while the gays bear no mutual responsibility. Nor do they resort to emotional blackmail to control others.

What you're saying is still just guilt by association and neglecting what needs to be done about a different group of people who have different demands.

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Then why did conservative Americans criminalize homosexuality for centuries and presently banning books written by gays in schools and libraries?

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I have no idea. In fact, I have no idea how true what you said is. But what does that have to do with trans people?

If your point is that conservatives have prejudiced against gays, and now they are doing the same to transgenders, and you demand to stop prejudice against both, then I'd agree with you.
But did you not read what I just wrote about how trans people have different demands than gays?

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Denial of homophobia = homophobia.

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I do not deny there is homophobia. And I'd tell you what's wrong with this statement you just made, but you're just trying to change the subject now.

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"I have no idea. In fact, I have no idea how true what you said is."

Now, you're denying your denial. You're gaslighting!

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I'd tell you what's wrong with this statement you just made, but you're just trying to change the subject now.

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Have you ever in your life read such gobblygook? I was going cross-eyed when reading them let alone my brain began to misfire.😖

Domgender: The individual has multiple genders with one dominating over the rest.

I always thought that was a person with multiple personalities. The correct term is “Dissociative identity disorder”. It is a mental health disorder characterized by the development of several unique identities or personalities that take control within the same person.”

I believe all this gender crap is a form of mental disorders.

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Well I wouldn't go as far as calling them mental disorders. They're not actual different personalities, just different words to call oneself.

YOU can start doing it yourself if you merely choose to. You wouldn't be mentally ill, you'd just be stupid.

It really does look like they're just having fun with it at this point. Making up new stuff.

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Come on now! 😱 ”They're not actual different personalities, just different words to call oneself.”

How far are these whackos going to take it?

Tagsgender: The person likes to leave price tags on clothing.

Gatorgender: A person who needs a support animal & chooses an aligator.

Cinemagender: A person who has to be in a movie theater 24/7

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lol, they invent gender identities for everything.

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I didn’t read the whole list even though I posted it. It became a blur, so I don’t know if there is a gender for lard asses. You know those types who ride the motorized carts at Walmart with most of their blubber hanging off the seat. Hells Bells! You can’t even see a seat! They think they own the aisles devoid of other shoppers. Several years ago one grazed my foot. I told her in no uncertain terms “You keep driving that thing the way you’re doing and you’ll put someone else in one!” There are folks who genuinely need to be in one through no fault of their own.

Hmm? Let’s think 🤔…

How about WallyWorldFatCartGender!

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lol........here are two credit card thieves making a run for it in those carts.

https://i.postimg.cc/nrgDDr7J/motorized-carts.jpg

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I like how they say gender is a social construct but get so upset at "wrong" pronoun usage when language itself is a social construct. The words were literally made up to communicate. Nothing scientific about it.

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"Only one word is used for "he, she, it" in some languages like Mandarin Chinese and Indonesian. The pronoun issue is an English language problem."

Still applies.

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Language is still a social construct. If they are telling me that my gender is a social construct, I can argue that any words that are being used fall into a social construct so therefore I can call them anything I want.

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I disagree. Language is communication.

A social construct is a connotation placed on an object, group or event by a society, and adopted by that society with respect to how they view or deal with the object, group or event.

For instance: a stereotype of group, reinforcing it in mass media and discrimination and persecution based on stereotype.

Exactly what's happening now with transgender people.

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Language is indeed communication, but the specific words are socialized. The individual words are literally just made up.

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Nope, language still isn't a social construct.

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Ever seen Dogtooth?

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No. What's your point?

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It' fictional but it deals with stuff like this. Parents hold their children captive in their house from birth. They teach them the exact opposite of what humans know including words. They give a fork a different name, the teach them that incest is okay and so on.

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All parents socialize their children.

Fundamentalist Christian parents do the same when they home school.

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And that's why I say that all words are social constructs. Teach a kid that a fork is really called a spoon and see what happens.

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You're using social construct term incorrectly.

The irony is your complaint about redefining terms when you're doing it.

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social construct
noun
formal
: an idea that has been created and accepted by the people in a society
Class distinctions are a social construct.

In this case, the parents know what a fork is and they know that it's called a fork. The term "fork" is accepted by society as an instrument with prongs so stab food. It could have been called a microwave, but fork is what society chose. Now these parents are teaching their kids that it is not called a fork. These kids are being conditioned by society (ie their parents) by what they believe to be normal.

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Stereotypes are a social construct.

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Not really. It's an expectation based on fallacy.

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aka: a social construct

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No, fallacy as in "lie".

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Spoken Languages are absolutely a social construct. There are tribes in Africa that do not speak to each other at all, they use clicking sounds to communicate.

Deafmutes don't speak, but they created their own language as well.

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LOL! You broke your own record with three dopey and incorrect comments in three sentences. You have Archie Bunker level ignorance.
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Fascism definition: a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement.

"Leftists always lie.
Wokeness is Fascism+Hypocrisy."

And...
'War Is Peace. Freedom Is Slavery. Ignorance Is Strength.'

How Orwellian of you!

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