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Do conservatives have a point about some trans events?


https://nypost.com/2022/10/18/video-of-drag-queen-gyrating-next-to-child-sparks-backlash/


shows a drag queen lifting her skirt and gyrating while lip-synching lyrics to the song “P—y” by Lady as a confused kid looks on from one of the nearby tables.

“My p—y good / p—y sweet /p—y good enough to eat,” go the lyrics as the drag queen gyrates.

The young girl sits in a booth at the at the “Garden of Eden” brunch show in Plano restaurant Ebb & Flow, watching the proceedings as several adult women in her party look on with blank faces.


What the actual hell is this? I am all for adults and trans adults making their own decisions for themselves but this is rankly sickening, whether it a straight man or woman or pro LGBTQ brunch. This is giving a bad name to the movement and if we on the left do not call it out and make excuses we look bad.

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In the USA, psychopaths cannot be pointed out as being psychopath. The reason why is because modern psychopaths know that the founding fathers of the USA were all psychopaths and that gives psychopath people the freedom to do psychopath things that they want to, just as long as they do not break the law. Republican voters glorify the founding psychopath fathers so republican voters have to accept the psychopath LGBTQ people.

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huh?

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He is mocking the board from a few days ago.

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Did mommy drop you on your head?

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1post, 2 sentence , 8 uses of "psychopaths" , a new pb?

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Hell no.

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Pedophile confirmed.

As though we didn’t already know.

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Drag Queens are like wrestlers with each have to have a gimmick while on stage to get hired to perform.

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Except everyone likes wrestling and only Chomos and rejects like drag queens.

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Professor says children should start seeing genitalia as trans people are here and they will continue to be in contact with each other.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12367279/Journalism-professor-claims-children-exposed-adult-GENITALIA-prepare-seeing-naked-trans-people-locker-rooms-shocking-jab-swimmer-Riley-Gaines.html

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Why the hypocritical pretense? You are a supporter of those child grooming degenerates..........own it.

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If you call it out, the 'movement'(cult) will simply kick you out and continue their crazy.

Good luck with that.

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I have to agree. the left has left me behind on this topic and i am basically a centrist at this point. Even bringing up this or the scientific facts about trans athletes gets me called a bigot and phobe.

at least in the UK there seems to be some pushback and hopefully other places. in Canada afew weeks ago a trans male playing womens rugby injured 3 so bad they had to leave the game.

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Well, glad to hear it.

You still going to vote for teh dems, because the media tells you that republicans are scary?

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He is 100% leftist, pretending to be a centrist when it suits him or when it is convenient.

How many times have we heard that same claim of “I’m a centrist” or “I’m an Independent” while all their comments reek of a leftist?

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Mmm, yeah, until they are prepared to flip their vote, the MOB will just keep going, unchecked. You vote for the dems you vote for drag queen shows and open borders and shitting in the streets.




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i am out side the US so will be voting neither.

also TV fan has no idea what he is talking about. he saw someone else attack me because the person wrote 10 paragraphs in response to my 1 paragraphs response to him and did not tackle what i said and rather went on a long winded unrelated rant. so i said i do not want to engage with someone like that and he smeared me. i disagreed on one issue and like a lost puppy he has just been repeating what that guy said.

You vote for the dems you vote for drag queen shows and open borders and shitting in the streets.


i am in concur 100% but of course im "100% leftist, pretending to be a centrist when it suits him or when it is convenient."

I only encountered tvfan last evening but it seems he has a very simple view of political ideology and will just smear anyone who has a different view on one issue than himself. i have to conform and believe everything he does apparently.

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Which country then?

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Canada. where we are having our own massive problems with this


https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/warmington-female-rugby-players-complain-trans-opponent-hits-too-hard

a balding male not even making any effort to transition of become "a women" playing rugby on the women's team and forces 3 of the other players to leave the game due to injuries.

it appears TVfan doesnt do nuance. if someone disagrees or has a more centrist position they are actually secretly a "leftist". he also only does insults


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So, you going to vote AGAINST the idiots that support that? Do you even have any options that DON'T support it?

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i will not vote trudeau or NDP or green and hope the conservative platform is good. However in Canada even the conservative party is milquetoast on this topic.

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if someone disagrees or has a more centrist position they are actually secretly a "leftist"

lol, secretly a “leftist”?

Almost every comment you have made screams of a leftist.
You are as transparent as the rest of the leftists on this forum.

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with all due respect ive made 53 comments with only afew on politics. you have no damn idea what i believe or think. you heard one other person smear me and you latched on like a lost puppy to that and followed him in attacking me.

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You lying sack of shit, he didn’t smear you.

You trolled his response to someone else and then he gave you the benefit of the doubt by providing you with an explanation that you shat on because you were too lazy and incompetent to read it and/or accept it.

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insulting now? ad hominems are the result of a lost arguement.

i trolled his response? i addressed exactly what he wrote with good faith. his response didnt address anything i said he never addressed a single thing i said. instead he tried to just overwhelm the conversation by making a massive response. 1/3 of his 10 paragraph response wasnt even close to the topic. he started ranting about science and how it is all fake now and ideology and a conspiracy. when the topic was me specifically addressing Michael Critchons claims. where in his response did he bring up Michael Critchon? where in his response did he address the link i gave or the quotation i gave? he did not.

if he gave an explanation to what i wrote then simply give me the quotation where he addressed what i said about michael, and addressed my link. it should be simple.

https://moviechat.org/bd0000082/Politics/64c407284a2c9a4b43319f78/Climate-Change-Perspectives?reply=64ca72af1213ed165d2817ef

he hand waves it away and says "it isnt real science" but gives no evidence. he claims the entire field isnt real science, and madeup, but gives no proof of this

i read every word. stop being a little puppy and defending him.

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So now you double down on more lies and excuses.

Yes, you trolled his response twice. There was nothing wrong with either of his explanations. If you don’t like or accept someone’s explanation(s) than you should not troll them to begin with.

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i gave an exact response including the link. yes there is something wrong with his explanations.

making the claim all the science is fraudulent, untrue, part of a conspiracy without proof does not work. you do not get to make such big statements without proof. but all you do is ad hominem so i am not surprised you do not know this.

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Hypocrite, you used ad hominen against several others on this forum.

It is called “common sense” and “deductive reasoning”, which is something that leftists like you are incapable of using.

You are too brainwashed to think independently so you rely on the false and fraudulent narratives made by some scientists, especially when they are bought, compromised, coerced, or incentivized.

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ive posted 60 times so should be easy. please share a link to a single ad hominem.

i see now why this site has an ignore function. ill be using it on you very soon

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It's pretty simple really. First of all being Trans does not mean you have a mental health problem. If I decide tomorrow that I want to dress up like a girl for the rest of my life and want you to call me Suzie, I did not develop a mental health problem overnight. It is a life choice. This should not even be part of politics as it is a human right to do so if one wishes to. Now as for the clowns parading in front of kids pulling their junk out, that's just it. They are clowns. Each group of people has clowns in their group. Real Trans people are embarrassed by this and I'm sure would prefer if they didn't do this. Also Trans people should have their own division in sports. It is unfair to women to have a (born man) compete against them. People just need to realize in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter if one wants to cross dress in public or in private. It doesn't affect their life one bit. Worry about yourself, take care of yourself, don't worry what other people are doing. Once you're dead, none of this matters.

Signed, million man.

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No one is against trans adults people being trans. What people have a problem with is:

- allowing children to undergo gender transition surgery when they do have the maturity to make that kind of a life changing decision

- expecting society to affirm that they are the other gender. A biological male can pretend to be a woman all they want but don’t expect me to accept that they are women, they aren’t.

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"- expecting society to affirm that they are the other gender. A biological male can pretend to be a woman all they want but don’t expect me to accept that they are women, they aren’t."

That's really just a dick move though and encompasses what is wrong with Republicans. "I don't agree with it so I'm going to fight it" instead of just calling the guy ma'am. It costs nothing to do so.

Signed, million man.

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Why would you enable someone else’s delusional lie?

They are fascists forcing you to affirm their insanity and you are too weak to stand your ground on facts, common sense, and biology.

If they don’t respect themselves for what they are, than why should anyone respect them for what they are pretending to be?

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Nobody is forcing you to do anything. It's just common courtesy. If you want to keep living your life as a dick, that is your right. But don't be shocked when people start treating you like one.

Signed, million man.

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lol, It is not common courtesy; it is called: having no cojones.

You must be living in a cave of denial if you are unaware of how that fascist cult has been forcing others to affirm them by using different types of social and physical tactics.

Those people are weak and they have made others like you just as weak and spineless.

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More like they made you paranoid. Lol.

Signed, million man.

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That's really just a dick move though and encompasses what is wrong with Republicans. "I don't agree with it so I'm going to fight it" instead of just calling the guy ma'am. It costs nothing to do so.


it is the opposite in fact in many situations

"i don't agree with republicans not affirming my gender i just chose, which can change on any given day. today i am they/them next month ive changed it to Fae/Faer. i am going to fight to implement laws forcing others to conform to it"

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So if a guy named Robert wants to go by Bobby, wouldn't you call him Bobby? Or will you insist on calling him Robert?
And by the way nobody changes genders on any given day.

Signed, million man.

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How many times has Demi Lovato changed her pronouns? Or Jim Sterling?

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I have no idea. Demi needs to worry about not doing heroin, though.

Signed, million man.

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if he goes to bobby, and then changes it again at will. and insists anyone who doesn't call him bobby is engaging in a hate crime and is a "bobby phobia" and we need laws to defend people who switch to calling themselves bobby that may affect someone's academic or professional or if they do not comply with what bobby wants. then no i am not okay with that.i am not using an extreme example this is happening.

sorry you are saying how and when people can and do switch genders? also are you going to limit what accommodations are provided or will you discriminate?

i actually personally know cases of people getting in trouble because of someone constantly changing it and getting reprimanded for not keeping up with the persons newest gender switch.

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You are talking about very rare cases. It's not that common. Using one small example to condemn the rest.

Signed, million man.

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How can you in one breathe say "we need to do this" and when i say "yaa this is why doing this is silly" you say "we arent doing this!". the very thing you claimed we need to just do with your Bobby example?

I actually am not. you really think punitive measures arent happening to people who dont go along with this? and its uncommon? come on you arent this blind. i know since we are both commenting here you are unlikely a highschool kid but this is what is happening as one example its happening en masse.

its happening All over the place Canada, the US and UK. i know students going through it and also teachers fed up with how crazy its gotten. these aren't right wing nuts these are left wingers who are pro gay, pro LGBTQ who even they themselves are shocked at how far its going.

i do not like sing anecdotes but you can find them all over. including one UK teacher being recorded by students as she chastises them for saying theres only two genders and that they should "leave the school and go to another one"

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Man, you gotta get off Tik Tok. It's rotting your brain


Signed, million man.

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you are as bad as Tvfan minus no ad hominems, but equally in denial of facts and unable to provide coherent arguments. replace "leftist media" with "tiktok" and you sound identical.

none of this is from Tik tok, but okay you are the reason i made this post. in total denial and turning a blind eye

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No one is fighting anything, we are just refusing to being bullied into validating a clearly deluded person’s fantasies.

If you truly care about someone you tell them the truth, you don’t lie to them to make them feel good. Lia Thomas, Dylan Mulvanney, etc. are NOT women, they are just men pretending to be women. They need help.

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So if a guy named Robert wants to go by Bobby, wouldn't you call him Bobby? Or will you insist on calling him Robert?

Signed, million man.

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False equivalence, Bobby is a nickname for Robert and by calling him Bobby I am not defying the laws of science. If he wanted me to call him Batman I wouldn’t until he legally got his name changed to Batman. If he said he wanted to go by “Bobbi”, started putting on a dress and expected me to think that he was a woman then yes I would take issue and I wouldn’t feed into his mental illness.

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The laws of science don't apply to this. You really think these people don't realize they were born in the wrong body? Trans people have been around since people were around. Calling it a mental illness is wrong, as I explained earlier up higher. Sex is not gender. The meaning has changed over time.

Signed, million man.

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They do apply, biological men think they are women, when they aren’t. They have a Y chromosome so therefore they are not women which debunks the claim “trans women are women”. Trans women are men pretending to be women. They weren’t born in the wrong body, they think they were born in the wrong body, they have a mental illness that we shouldn’t be validating because that’s not helping them get better, it’s only sinking them further into their delusion. If I don’t know the person then it’s none of my business but don’t expect me to go out of my way to hold their hand, tell them it’s alright and that their delusions are reality because that is a lie.

Your definition of “gender” is essentially whatever sex you want society to treat you as meaning essentially you are just pretending.

You people do this often, if the facts don’t suit whatever you want to think you just change definitions to fit inside your pre-determined conclusions. It’s quite dishonest, not to mention unscientific which is comically ironic coming from the “party of science”.

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"Gender is between your ears, sex is between your legs."

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born in the wrong bodies how? what is a "fae/faer" body? what is a a "ve/ver" body? what is a xe/xem body? im not making these up.

you say sex is not gender yet you are muddying the two yourself. saying a trans person is simply a person who feels they should be male but are born female and in the wrong body isnt 99% of the issue. Transgender means your gender identity doesn't match up with the sex you were assigned at birth.

so according to this and them theres 100+ genders now. so its not they were born in the "wrong body", they just claim they "identify as a Fae/Faer". as i said above whats a Fae/Faer body? the issue not some man who has thought about it a decade and wants surgery. great a grown adult can do what they want i support that!

the issue is the craziness of these people saying i MUST comply and say they are what they identify with that month or else i should get consequences.

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Well I haven't run into any of that. I doubt you have too. But okay I kind of get what you are saying, and I concede. If your issue is not with someone wanting to be the other gender, I am okay with that. LGBTQ+ should have never gone past the T part. They lose me after the T.

Signed, million man.

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have i personally? no but im fairly introverted, in a small conservative town and that basically couldn't happen at my work or hasnt as of yet. but i know people it has and are in work environments like this. and someone who got in trouble for wrongly "identifying" someone who changes their gender every month. im not even exaggerating about how often they change it.

i appreciate you recognizing what i have said and not just doubling down. we clearly agree on this and thats why i made this post because i feel parts of the left are going to crazy town.i posted this on an atheist page and asked if we could at least agree it was bad and i got responses like "you are a Christian white nationalist"


its gone from "i support a male who believes they were born in the wrong body and wants surgery" to now "i identify as a Fae and you must address me as such and if you do not you are phobic. also my gender identity is subject to change at any time".

i used to think those little right wing skits over exaggerating and stereotyping how silly the gender identity thing was just more cringe right wing humor. but its actually happening

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Yeah I don't like that regular Trans people get put in the same category as these loons.

Signed, million man.

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