https://youtu.be/6OrUS0KH4Hs
The evidence is just piling up at this point. Trump won and this is definitely a rigged election. I'll admit I had my doubts in the beginning but after all the irregularities and tangible evidence popping up everywhere, you'd have to be a complete moron to think this election was fair.
I never had any doubts.
Trump won and he won BIG.
If people choose to turn a blind eye to the mountains of evidence, they're going to be in for a big shock soon.
Trump lost.
Trumpers in denial.
Biden cheated. Trump won.
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Disgusting little twerp, aren’t you? I do hope you’re not a republican! I don’t agree with ultravioletx on anything, but she doesn’t deserve your empty headed filthy replies! Geez!
shareYeah, you'd think this shit hole had some form of moderation... don't kick me out...I'm leaving this shit hole.
sharethere was moderation until biden stole the election, now mods dont care anymore...
shareYou have TLS.
Trump Lost Syndrome
that makes no sense...
shareConspiracies claiming fraud changed the outcome of the election make no sense.
You have to have some condition in order to believe them.
i meant lts makes no sense, anyways, remember 2016 when Trump stole the election and dems investigated for 2 years saying he colluded with russia? its like dems have no memory past 1 second. this election should be investigated as well for fraud and collusion.
shareNo one was claiming voter fraud in 2016
sharethen what was the point of of the mueller report?
shareIf you were more informed you would already know.
The report was an investigation of Russian interference in the election
Do you seriously not know what the Russian interference entailed? It wasn't voter fraud. It had nothing to do with the voting process itself. That's not how you rig a national election.
its one way, you either
a) sway people to vote the way you want through lies diinformation and proaganda
b) straight out fix the count
option a) as a method of illegally fixing an election is prety much openly used by all sides these days, but especilly Trump as he really has no compunction about spouting any shit to get his way.
opt a is the only way viable way to rig a national election
it was rhetorical, so thats my fault. the dems accused Trump of colluding with Russia to steal the 2016 election, 2 years later it was all debunked, nancy (saggy boobs) mcgee promised everyone that Trump would be found guilty and removed from office, then they tried to impeach Trump, that failed, then they tried a plandemic and that finally succeeded, so basically what we need is an investigation of joke biden to find out if he colluded with china and how he stole the 2020 election. dems told everyone that Trump was going to cheat and steal this election, but they are actually the ones that did. you cant complain of fraud and chicanery and then say there was none. its hypocritical.
sharewhat dyou do if Russia just opts to help you out anyway?
because you're the kind of muppet they would like to see in the White house?
I must admit...that’s a good one. Still doesn’t change the facts there big time shenanigans going on by the left. Too many signed affidavits by poll workers who also spoke under oath to a committee.
share"signed affadavits" .. doesnt mean you think it means
shareNOUN
law
a written statement confirmed by oath or affirmation, for use as evidence in court.
If you intentionally lie on an affidavit, the lie can be considered perjury, which is a serious crime. Since you are confirming the truth of everything recited in the document, even an unintentional mistake can affect you and your case.
If I lie and say I saw a flying saucer, there's nothing you can do to prove the lie, which means there can be no perjury. It's up to the legal team to provide evidence.
An affidavit is useless unless there is something to go along with it.
Perjury only exists if a statement under oath (such as an affidavit) so support a matter that is material to an actual court proceeding
The second part is what you guys aren't getting. These affidavits are NOT subject to perjury if they are lying simply because they are not being used in any case. They were only collected for SHOW.
Affidavits are only as good as the methods a legal team uses to acquire them. Trump's team admitted to the judge they had to throw out too many affidavits because they were fraudulent. The judge made a fair complaint: If the standards Trump's team used were faulty in allowing so many fraudulent affidavits, why should the ones that were not thrown out be trusted? Trump's team had no answer.
So then Giuliani and Ellis end up with Melissa Carone. And that's where we get this huge downgrade of what we should expect from the prosecution. Instead of evidence, we're supposed to believe her because she signed an affidavit. Evidence no longer matters. Now it's all about affidavits. Well sure, if you want to dupe a Trump supporter. But anyone else is going to see right through the nonsense. And since the affidavit yields no evidence just like all the others, the case is dismissed before it begins.
I agree. If part of a testimony is untruthful, then how can the rest be considered truthful?
shareIt's not about that. We're talking about testimony that is unfalsifiable. Unfalsifiable means it cannot be proven wrong even if its wrong, such as the existence of god, unicorns, aliens, leprechauns, etc. Even if they do not exist, it cannot be proven they do not exist.
Melissa Carone is going out there saying she saw something, and because we can't prove she didn't see it, we have to accept it as fact. No. We don't. We need evidence.
That's the downgrade I'm talking about. We went from falsifiable evidence to unfalsifiable affidavits. It fools the Trumpers, but doesn't work on anyone else.
What you two are saying it only becomes perjury if the affidavit is used in a court proceeding? Odd, if you lie to a fed you are in deep trouble without going to court. If you are disposed and lie you are also in deep trouble.
Isn’t it contrary to the following?:
A worn affidavit is a typed or printed statement about a crime or suspect as made by a witness, co-conspirator, or other involved party. This party swears to the truth and accuracy of the statement by signing it. In many jurisdictions, swearing to such a statement is equivalent to testifying under oath in a court of law and carries the same penalties as lying under oath.
Leave Trump out of it, if you are able to do so, and I won’t bring Swalwell and Schiff into the mix, which includes Hunter Biden. Please base your reply to only the subject matter. Affidavits, lying and perjury.
"Odd, if you lie to a fed you are in deep trouble without going to court."
You can make up anything you want and say to a fed that you saw it. You're only in trouble if there's evidence you made it up. Also, as far as I know, none of Giuliani's affiants have gone under oath. These are just hearings.
It doesn't matter if 1,000 affidavits get rejected by the courts. Giuliani is banking on Trump supporters thinking "wow they got 1,000 affidavits. That must mean at least some of them are telling the truth. That must mean there's fraud." In a debate, it's called the gish gallop.
In the real world, it doesn't work that way. If I set up a hotline asking for people who have seen Trump commit murder, I too can get thousands of signed affidavits of people claiming they saw it. And all they have to do to avoid perjury is not confess to lying.
”Giuliani is banking on Trump supporters thinking "wow they got 1,000 affidavits.
Come on. Give us more credit than that! If none have gone under oath the affidavits need to be trashed. I’m a Trump voter, but I don’t want to hear lies. Unless Trump’s law team has irrefutable proof, they are making a mockery of the court system. It’s got to the point where they are throwing whatever, akin to spaghetti at the wall hoping it will stick.
But, without a doubt I believe something, someones was amiss. I don’t believe Biden won by such a wide margin. What to do about receiving more ballots back than were sent out? Something isn’t quite right about this election. What? I don’t know. I’m not saying Trump won, but those mail in ballots are ripe for fraud. I believe we should go back to the old way of voting...in person unless you have a damn good reason for not voting in person.
Another question. With all the mail in ballots, why were people standing in line for 45 minutes or more. BTW, there were precincts which had more ballots than registered voters. You know yourself. You’ve seen people brag they voted 5, 10 or more times. I could easily have done so.
FYI, Most countries of the world ban mail-in voting due to fraud & vote buying
Developed countries ‘ban’ mail-in voting, US would be ‘laughing stock’: Report
"What to do about receiving more ballots back than were sent out?"
that's just false. Someone made this claim based on the number of ballots sent out for the primary
You're right, Biden isn't smart enough to rig an election but his handlers have been working on it since November 9, 2016.
It's not over till a hand is on the Bible.
November 9 2016 isn't the claim though. It's supposed to go all the way back to when Hugo Chavez was still alive.
shareThey tried in 2016. Just not hard enough.
shareSorry to tell you this but you have a serious case of Trump Lost Syndrome.
shareTrump won.
shareIf Trump won then he wouldn't be embarrassing himself in front of the entire world.
shareI don't see it, like yeah I just don't see what you see
Even if he was, but hes not, I'm sure you just read some NPC propaganda aka news media and that's how you got your "original" idea / thought.
Its staggering that people cannot admit there is evidence, because there is.
So I suspect you don't believe that there is this evidence, despite it being linked in this topic / OP's comment.
Sure, makes sense why you might think hes embarrassing himself
But like, just because other people are wrong, doesn't mean you stop with what you think or what you believe. Its how Trump got to where he is in life
Its how I have gotten to where I am, if I just went along with what everyone else did, I'd have some day job making shit money
You just don't get it, and you need to experience it, a learnt experience via interacting with the world, to see what works, and what doesn't work.
"evidence" lol
There are people that determine what constitutes is viable evidence according to our constitution.. and those people have determined there is no evidence
Evidence is 1000's+ of sworn affidavit's, as defined by any dictionary and in legal terms also.
If there was no bias in media, and they reported news and didn't create propaganda, they would follow the conventions of the English language, but they don't.
Because they don't publish news
They publish propaganda for NPC's
"No evidence of voter fraud" is a lie, straight up lie.
Objectively speaking, by the conventions of the English language
But since people change the meaning of words and all that, that's how words remove the weight and truth, in terms of what those words actually represent in objective reality.
That's why you think there is no evidence, when in fact there is.
The further away people are from talking about objective reality, the further they are from knowing the truth.
And then layers and layers of that in combination of years and years, then all of a sudden people are cheering on a pedophile that has ties to the CCP that cant string two sentences together cause hes going senile
there is objectively NO evidence.
Most of these affidavits were NOT submitted into evidence. So , by definition they are NOT evidence. Ones that were submitted were rejected as hearsay.
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shareI take your inability to respond as a concession of the point. So we agree there is no evidence
shareDon't talk to me about inability
You are talking in a thread with the evidence in the OP, with a position of there is no evidence.
No. No other mixture of words could be used to get through to someone like you. Ego is hardened, and you cannot be wrong, and you lean too far into politics and take it too personality because you don't have much going on in your life.
I mean, why else would someone regurgitate news media (private corporations) talking points
"You are talking in a thread with the evidence in the OP, with a position of there is no evidence."
You think the video in the OP is "evidence"?????
How can anyone take anything you say seriously when you make such ignorant statements?
The video shows NOTHING
Affidavits are only as good as the methods a legal team uses to acquire them. Trump's team admitted to the judge they had to throw out too many affidavits because they were fraudulent. The judge made a fair complaint: If the standards Trump's team used were faulty in allowing so many fraudulent affidavits, why should the ones that were not thrown out be trusted? Trump's team had no answer.
So then Giuliani and Ellis end up with Melissa Carone. And that's where we get this huge downgrade of what we should expect from the prosecution. Instead of evidence, we're supposed to believe her because she signed an affidavit. Evidence no longer matters. Now it's all about affidavits. Well sure, if you want to dupe a Trump supporter. But anyone else is going to see right through the nonsense. And since the affidavit yields no evidence just like all the others, the case is dismissed before it begins.
What you just said, this does not describe the narrative from the media of:
"There is no evidence of voter fraud"
So wheres the gap?
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Ok, that's why I ask for them. But why do you give them?
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I don't consider it a loser site. Why would you indulge in a site you think is a loser site?
shareIt's the skeleton of the old imdb boards. Lame. I actually think the whole internet is lame/ bad for society, but then I remember I don't care about any of that gay shit anyways so here I am... Also I have yet to be admonished on here and I enjoy being very prejudice...so that is a plus...at least so far.
sharelol dude ur the one calling people names and starting shit. chill yo
shareWhere did I disagree with calling names?
sharedont talk about who's a loser
you are beefing on the internet lol
And so are you.
shareLol im being constructive and telling you to chill out, as you might not be aware of how you are acting and how toxic it is
I say it to help you
I'm not beefing, I'm helping you be a better person
You're saying it because you're triggered by Trump losing.
sharelol the guy says to trigger me or something.....
This is the thing about negative / shit people
They love just dragging you into their own shit vortex
Aint happening buddy, my life's actually great!
And you want to know the truth, my family will make a shit tonne more money if Biden gets in! hahaha
Either way I win
Either way, Biden won
shareWTF? That's a big ass list of deleted comments...
shareWhy are you addressing me? I wasn't part of their back and forth about what they could suck.
shareJust a typical Trumptard begging for sex acts on an anonymous message board. But a verbal spanking was all I was willing to give.
shareYes, I apologize for doubting President Trump. It was only for a second and it was only a very small fraction of my brain.
shareYou're forgiven. 😊
shareYou apologize for doubting Trump? Aww how sweet.
shareAre you that desperate for a sniff at his butt that you apologise to nobody in particular for doubting his petulant whining?
shareDementia Joe even said there would be a lot of chicanery this election, looks like he was right.
shareYup. He and the democrats correctly predicted the "Red Mirage" scenario where GOP officials mandated that mail-in votes be counted last in states Trump told voters to vote in person, so Trump could use his early lead in those states to claim voter fraud.
shareGOP has no power to do that, brobeans. Dems pulled out suitcases of votes just for Joke Biden. Its all been caught on tape. This will probably be going to the Supreme Court where they will rule that Bunker Bidens votes are void and Trump will be President.
shareNo power you say.
https://www.inquirer.com/politics/election/pennsylvania-counting-mail-ballots-election-day-negotiations-stall-20201021.html
In adjourning, Republicans turned away pleas from county elections officials across the state, who said allowing them to open ballots before Election Day would reduce the staffing strain and administrative headaches on top of whatever issues they’re dealing with during in-person voting.
Without a deal, the days-long process of counting mail ballots can’t begin until 7 a.m. on Election Day, potentially leaving the results unclear for days and opening room for candidates to falsely declare victory.
This is for PA, not any other state like you infer it to be
Yeah, great move, why let Dem's early access to the votes so they can find out how many they need to "win"?
And isnt this the place that said everyone needs to go home, because a water main broke?
But then they start counting again 20mins after everyone including the press and the poll watches left
And that's when the votes for Biden showed up, AFTER people left.
AND then it turns out that it was just a broken toilet in the end, you mean that one?
He told everyone a while ago he didn't need votes.
He also admitted to putting together an "extensive voter fraud organization," just like Obama had.
They didn't keep him in the dungeon enough. He often said the quiet parts out loud. Whoopsie!!
Nobody with a brain would ever think "extensive voter fraud organization" would mean an organization committed to engaging in voter fraud. And nobody with a brain would ever think he would announce such a thing to the entire world so openly.
That's something an idiot comes up with when they are looking for excuses why their candidate lost by so many votes.
Was that one of his many brain farts?
They shouldn't have told him the plan.
Two realities here:
1) Biden and the dems let it known ahead of time they were going to cheat. Trump anticipated it having already been cheated in 2016, but on election night in 2020, he forgot all about it when he was in the lead, and then was dumbfounded by it when Biden started taking the lead, and despite all that fraud, he can only show tiny examples of it, some of which favored Trump himself, his legal team abandons him, leaving him with Giuliani and Ellis, and is forced to have drunk witnesses testify.
2) Biden and the dems let it known ahead of time that the GOP wanted mail-ins counted last in swing states so it would look like Trump had an unbeatable lead, and Trump would use that early lead to fool his supporters into thinking voter fraud happened. So when it came to proving nonexistent fraud in court, Trump's legal team understood it's a dog and pony show for television, and left it for Trump's personal TV lawyer, Rudy. And as predicted, most of Rudy's court appearances involving him telling the judge that his case is not about even about fraud. And Trump's defense fund isn't going toward fraud cases either. It's going to his personal slush fund which is geared to helping him run again in 2024.
Now you can pick reality 1, but just like Trump, you're going to be viewed as a joke by about 70% of the population. But perhaps ignorance is strength? It's more fun to be pro flat-earth than to be pro-science? I really don't know what your fetish is. But I do find it very entertaining.
Either way, Trump lost 🤣🤣🤣
1. I don't know what you're talking about.
2. I don't know what you're talking about.
3. You don't know what you're talking about.
4. Anytime you lose an argument you pull out the "flat-earth" comment.
5. Trump won.
Of course you don't know what I'm talking about. Trump and his cult are defeated by basic math 😂
Trump can't even get Fox News on his side against Obama's VP. 😂😂😂
Btw, where's krly these days to prove Trump was cheated? Where's kspkap? Why'd they all leave you to fight this one alone? Hmmm. I guess the cult only runs so deep before smarter people begin to wake up.
Speaking of math, the math of Biden's supposed win doesn't add up. Look into it and you'll see why.
The left is trying to steal the election and you either know it but don't care or you're just plain stupid.
Fox News is 💩
Didn't you get the memo by now? Are you a regular viewer now to know what they're up to?
I don't speak for anyone on these boards but for myself. I stand on my own two feet. I don't need others to hold my hand.
Maybe they've lost interest in the boards? I'm beginning to. 😴
Have to love how Fox news is now shit. Did Tucker fingerbang your grandaughter?
shareYou didn't look into anything, lol. Trump said fraud and you said YES.
Fox News can't pretend there's evidence when there isn't any, and can't pretend over 40 cases weren't thrown out.
Biden said fraud too, and Hillary said not to concede. So thats what Trump is doing. He is exposing the fraud and dems dont like it.
shareI wonder if they think that their local PD's homicide division was created to commit murders
shareYep, I've just wasted my time responding to you past 20mins because of what you just said here
"Nobody with a brain would ever think "extensive voter fraud organization" would mean an organization committed to engaging in voter fraud." - Then WHAT ELSE DID HE MEAN? - None provided, meaning you are wrong just a personal attack to deflect away what Joe Biden said.
"And nobody with a brain would ever think he would announce such a thing to the entire world so openly."
Unless he has some sort of early onset alzheimer's because hes 78 years old, and there is COUNTLESS videos of him just not making ANY sense whatsoever.
This. Just this. Right here. Done.
You are an NPC that leans too hard towards the Democrats because not much is going on in your life.
That's why you are so nasty to other people here, zero compassion, zero humility.
You might think, oh well you do the same. WRONG. I just do it to people that have it coming to them, people that I see are mean people, and I like to give it to them. Hopefully so they can be and do better.
edit - Also so you are not mean to other people, maybe it stops you from doing that.
Honestly hope that is the case with you someday
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA6eK7rv7t8&t=17m50s
Watch and use your damn brain. Anybody claiming he's talking about an organization to commit fraud is either pretending or will buy into any conspiracy you throw at them.
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shareYeah, all that manufactured evidence is piling up. A regular house of cards all the gamblers will cry foul as it tumbles over.
Some nefarious handing over of a USB sounds like something from a 90's espionage thriller, i.e., made up BS.
https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/afb120420dAPR20201204064504.jpg
https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/cb120320dBP20201202094516.jpg
The left only sees made up evidence like the one from Russia they dragged us through for 3+ years and while NONE was found, they STILL claim there was. 🙄
But nothing to see here! Tons of witnesses all lying. 😂
The right only sees made up evidence like the one from Benghazi they dragged us through for 6 years, where Hillary testified a dozen times in person, and while NONE was found, they STILL claim she should be locked up. 🙄
Meanwhile, after Trump told Russia they would be rewarded for finding Hillary's deleted emails, Russia hacked the DNC server and sent the email data to Wikileaks who was in contact with Don Jr and Roger Stone. It's lucky for Trump that Mueller and Pelosi deemed that activity not worthy of impeachment. And what does Roger Stone do with that email data? He warps it into PizzaGate. And what does Roger Stone do with PizzaGate? He warps it into qAnon.
Trump and his goons are a stain upon this earth.
Trump won.
Two hundred plus witnesses who signed affidavits.
Real flesh and blood whistleblowers, not like the invisible kind Adam Full-Of-Schiff came up with to impeach an innocent president.
Trump's legal team had to throw out over half their affidavits because they were fake. The judge had this whole ordeal with Trump's legal team about it saying their standards for acquiring affidavits were too faulty.
This isn't a whistleblower who saw "dead people" voting and illegals voting. This is someone who saw minor inconsistencies, and her imagination ran wild to think it changed the outcome of an election. Also, she's drunk out of her mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofZOWzd4YjE&t=29
But it's hilarious to watch. Trumptards in drunken tears. 😂😂😂
Proof?
Minor inconsistencies?! I suppose a little bit of fraud is ok with you, right? As long as it helps your side.
I don't know who is drunk out of her mind. You must be because you make no sense.
I'm not clicking on your video. I haven't witnessed one Trump supporter in tears.
Where is all the fraud? Any court this "supposed" evidence has been brought before has been thrown out.
shareYeah the thing that makes it so obvious, is that they didnt expect Trump to get that many votes
That's why the votes were stopped counting very early, they needed time to change their algo / bring in the backup dodgy mail in votes
Biden currently has the most votes of any presidential candidate, of all time. He even beat Obama
Trump got the 2nd most votes out of any presidential candidate of all time, but they are legit votes.
They are so desperate now, all the funny stories coming out from CNN and MSNPC
They legit straight up gas light people about what is going on, and then the second trump gets his 2nd term, CNN is going to run the headlines of "Trump stole the election" despite all the documented examples of fraud by the democrats, while being protected by the republicans in some scenario's, as they are DEEP STATE
This whole reality we all share is made up of energy and vibrations, this is mainstream science for well over 20yrs now
Notice how legacy media and everything the establishment pretty much ignores this?
Big things are coming, bigger than what most people realise
"deep state" lmao
shareDeep state....yeah , sure
shareIf you have the ability to do any kind of math in your head, you would realize that if a state is close with Biden as the winner, and 70% of the early count goes to Trump, and 70% of the later count goes to Biden, it is impossible for that state to turn blue until the very end.
GOP officials ignored requests to have mail-in votes counted as they came in. GOP officials preferred mail-ins to not be counted until the polls closed. This is what gave Trump the 70% early lead.
You are being fooled by your own lack of information, lack of math skills, and your own biases. You can't believe Biden got 70% of the mail-ins, but you'll easily believe Trump got 70% of the total vote of a swing state. These fantasies are your safe space away from the reality that Trump got his shit pushed in. 😂😂😂
Every single state has different laws regarding when things are counted
So what state are you referring to exactly?
Putting the above to the side
The GOP only really has sway in Republican states, but the issues/massive fraud are in Democrat states.
So your saying the GOP gets to tell the Democrats how to run Democrat states? huh?
Biden apparently got the MOST votes out of any American Presidential candidate
The guy that belongs in an old folks home, that didn't campaign, that cant get 1,000 people to view his livestream's
"but you'll easily believe Trump got 70% of the total vote of a swing state"
To take your numbers on face value to continue the conversation, yes, yes this is completely possible.
Due to the fact Biden ran on a defund the police, ban fracking, lean hard into socialism, never distanced himself from the extreme left / hard left faction of the DNC. Yes. It's completely possible the American population rejected the bullshit
People were SICK OF THE RIOTS
I mean, hell wake up man,
BLM = Biden's Laptop Matters
Or is that my fucking bias also? - fuck off
Or is that Fake news lol
Past 4 years the media has been banging on about how the election is being influenced by foreign actors, and how much of a risk to democracy it is (despite usa being a republic lol)
But the 2nd a Deep state guy "wins" oh well that all just goes away, and there is ZERO EVIDENCE OF VOTER FRAUD
They legit do a 180, and NPC's cannot even see that
Its amazing
haha they should have done manil in ballots
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