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I get that college scares your kind, but the fact is that "immunity" doesn't happen the way you think it does. Your kind is used to immunity being magic, something that forms a magical shield around people that prevents viruses from entering your body. But the fact is that viruses enter your body all the time and sometimes there aren't enough of them to cause an illness. Much of the difficulty in creating this vaccine was because it isn't enough just to expose you to the virus, and that the characteristics of the virus is that it first starts as a bad cold and then morphs into what we call COVID-19.
People block when they know they've lost an argument. Your bringing up driving wasn't even an argument, it was an attempt to diverge the argument to something different, and you never cared about the measles example as you clearly aren't understanding the reason it was brought up in the first place.
The issue is herd immunity and what needs to be done to establish it. The issue is that science fully debunks your claims about how you can choose not to get the vaccine and rely on others to supply the heard immunity. The issue is that anti-vaxxers use these same arguments that you use to deflect from the actual problems so you can "win" something irrelevant.
And yes, I took the flu vaccine, I take it every year. They practically give it away for free.
So your solution to the Trolley problem is to insist there is no trolley and deny that you have any impact at all. That sounds more like a sociopath's response, you're really saying you don't care who lives or dies, none of it matters and it's best to ignore the lever and ignore the fat man.
I directly disputed your points and provided scientific proof against them, that's the real reason you're upset, not the fact that I called you an anti-vaxxer for using the same exact arguments they always use.
You mean a majority, most people who were infected were not hospitalized. It has been shown that the people who have had the more severe reactions are the ones who develop sufficient antibodies to have immunity.
https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/vaccines/78083
I get that as an anti-vaxxer you don't understand how vaccines or herd immunity works, but pleading ignorance to understanding it isn't an argument. Vaccines are not 100% effective, effectiveness is also tied to personal health, if you come in contact with someone who is very sick then you can get a larger dose of the virus that overwhelms your immune system. Vaccines work by establishing herd immunity, and herd immunity relies on a heavily vaccinated population and especially randomly distributed.
Fauci knows we need at least 90% vaccinated but he also knows he's fighting against anti-vaxxers who hate science. The fact is that the more communicable the disease is, the more people need to get vaccinated to prevent it from spreading. COVID-19 is highly communicable, you're talking about vaccination rates lower than polio.
It depends on the severity of the infection, if your symptoms were only that of a bad cold then you didn't generate enough antibodies to be immune to it. In fact, there are people who caught it a second time after getting the "bad cold" and have had a more severe reaction the second time, requiring hospitalization.
Do you have any proof that driving kills more people than the coronavirus? Of course not, because it's a blatant lie. 70% is an optimistic number, considering how many anti-vaxxers there are... the reality is that to eradicate the virus, like we used to have with measles, we need close to 95% vaccinated. The number of people getting vaccinations has been declining for decades and it endangers everyone, not just the people who refuse to get vaccinated.
You do realize that the united states has slowly been losing herd immunity to long gone viruses like measles. You also realize that vaccines do not make everyone who gets them 100% immune right? Anti-Vaxxers love screaming about it having to be up to the individual, but ignore just how much damage they're doing to public welfare. It is critical that everyone get the vaccine because it is everyone's duty to put an end to this virus.
I always find it odd how people insist things are a slippery slope without realizing that is the name of a fallacy. It's like saying you're a fuck'n ad hominem. There have been over 2.5 million deaths due to COVID-19, just how many deaths do you need before you take it seriously?
It's an issue of public safety, everyone should be vaccinated as soon as possible.
Because amputation debilitates a person while gender confirmation surgery removes a useless organ and has been clinically shown to improve the lives of people with gender dysphoria. Your question is more akin to asking why we help and encourage obese people to lose weight but decide it isn't good to help anorexic people lose weight. Being thinner or losing limbs doesn't actually improve the lives of these people and actively harms them.
Let me see if I understand your argument correctly. The word "job" was invented at some point and thus jobs don't actually exist, people use the word "job" as a trump card to win the day. "Get a job!" End of discussion.
No, I think your problem is that you choose to engage with people who don't want to change their views and then complain when they get frustrated at the futility of the debate.
1. Albatross (2011)
2. The Crow (1994)
3. Duck Soup (1933)
4. Jonathan Livingston Seagull, 1973
5. To Kill a Mockingbird (1962)
6. Hummingbird (2013)
7. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975)
8. Eagle Eye (2008)
Interesting point to be made, Reduction of Hazardous Substances (RoHS) required that electronics stop using lead solder but did nothing about the primary source of lead seeping into the water system. Car batteries. In fact, batteries are exempt from the law so all the negatives are on what wasn't contributing to the issues to begin with.
It is the unfortunate tendency for us to first enact what might be an environmentally sound idea but then say "this will affect us negatively" and don't follow through. Plastic recycling took the same step, instead of reducing our plastic consumption it increased it and people feel good about recycling even if all of that plastic is going straight to the landfill because no one is buying recycled plastic.
So it may be right that even though it seems noble to reduce the CO2 output, we probably will just end up contributing back a different way. I remember back in 2001 when GM was talking about creating a Hydrogen Fuel Cell car. Compared to the battery economy, FuelCells do seem the cleaner approach; but we're likely to create tons of batteries that will just end up in landfills until we get the Hydrogen economy working as it should.
What about Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's / Philosopher's stone (2001), where she is most known for killing Harry Potter and stopping a franchise from even starting?
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I didn't SAY the US was at war, I said it wasn't at war. The Vietnam war was between North Vietnam and South Vietnam. The US was only involved in the war. You need to stop using Wikipedia, use a professional source like Britannica.
You're no different from a Mac fanboi. Tesla is the EV version of a Macintosh, you get a proprietary charger and fancy touch screen controls but pay more than anyone else and are forced into the "Tesla economy" where only Tesla can maintain or upgrade your vehicle.
Linux will be the dominate operating system in the future, we just need to get rid of people who oppose open standards and bully their way into becoming industry giants.
Teslas are luxury cars that are priced 10x what they're worth and operate on 100% hype. The fact is you can easily get a decent EV for 40k, you just won't get an overpriced luxury car. When Tesla falls, the EV market will begin booming, they're trying to shove proprietary crap down our throats and kill off the market by stifling competition and refusing to adhere to standards.
The Vietnam war was between North Vietnam and South Vietnam. The United States was not at war with Vietnam, it was an ally of the South Vietnamese government. Sorry you don't know your history.